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Old 27th August 2024, 23:41   #3301
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I have just completed 500km in my petrol only hycross and seeing mileage between 11 and 13kmpl in city with moderate traffic is simply impressive given the size of the car. The thing I have noticed is that driving a CVT requires a different driving style to extract both the power and mileage. The car has ample power and it is confirmed by 0-100 tests. Overall it is a good car which fulfills its purpose as a comfortable cruiser for both city and highway.
I believe it is due to Atkinson cycle engine (assuming it is true for non-hybrid variants as well) plus CVT, both of which are supposed to be fuel efficient. BTW, an interesting point about fuel efficiency- I have switched to using liter/100KM unit from more common KM/liter because that is logically a better indicator of it's impact on cost. When you move from 12 kmpl to 16kmpl, you only save 25% of the cost whereas when you move from 12 to 8, it is 50% more cost. I have heard of big petrol vehicles (whether old non-turbo ones or newer turbo petrols) returning single digit kmpl milage. It leads to a lot of expense in long run depending upon how much your odo clocks. My hybrid generally gives me around 5.5 liter/100KM in city. Can vary +/- 0.5 depending upon usage and road conditions, but roughly 5.5 is the overall average. At times it goes even below 5 (over 20KMPL). On highway, it drops by 0.5-1.5 (increase in L/100KM), again depending upon speeds, usage and traffic patterns. My running is usually quite low (for example, this car did ~9k km in an year of ownership), so I have not bought this car to save money on fuel, but it still helps in terms of recovering some of the premium I have paid upfront for other reasons. Good part is that you don't have to be overtly light footed to "extract" good milage, at least in hybrid. In fact, accelerating normally or even a little enthusiastically while picking up speed and then cruising and being gentle on brakes by anticipating stops and slow downs (which I do naturally) gives better efficiently as compared to being too light on accelerator pedal.

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Facing a strange issue in my Hycross hybrid. I have the fuel efficiency display set at Tank average. Since last 2 tank fills, this meter resets randomly and the readings thus are not retained till tank refill. Anybody else who has encountered this and if there is a resolution.
I have noticed this too, on a few occasions and was wondering how it detects tank fills- whether based on lid open/close or changes in fuel gauge reading or both.

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Old 28th August 2024, 08:19   #3302
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I have just completed 500km in my petrol only hycross and seeing mileage between 11 and 13kmpl in city with moderate traffic is simply impressive given the size of the car. The thing I have noticed is that driving a CVT requires a different driving style to extract both the power and mileage. The car has ample power and it is confirmed by 0-100 tests. Overall it is a good car which fulfills its purpose as a comfortable cruiser for both city and highway.
I have driven my hycross gx O petrol around 5000 km in last 3 months. I am getting average of 10 km overall with 90 % used in highway. Can you elaborate how to get maximum average in CVT as I am driving one for the first time. Does using manual mode sometimes increase or decrease overall fuel consumption?
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Facing a strange issue in my Hycross hybrid. I have the fuel efficiency display set at Tank average. Since last 2 tank fills, this meter resets randomly and the readings thus are not retained till tank refill. Anybody else who has encountered this and if there is a resolution.
Happens to me too. The fuel gauge sensor is not accurate and sometimes thinks the tank was filled again when you park on a slope. I just changed reading to total mileage and reset it manually every fill up.
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Re: Toyota Innova Hycross Review

My ORVMs have stopped auto folding when I lock the car. The switch is in the auto position (centre). I've tried toggling the switch but the issue persists.

Anyone else faced this issue? My car is a ZXO Hycross.
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Anyone who has installed the dashcam provided by Toyota, could you please advise if there is any user manual available?
I have a soft copy of the user manual. Please PM me your whatsapp number or email and I'll share it with you.
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Though I have never really used it, I thought the sport (S mode) that lets you put it into D1, D2… etc. is a kind of thing you are referring to by fake great shifts. And I believe those modes can be controlled using paddle shifters too. Personally, I would want them to use paddle shifters to provide brake regen levels like Tata EVs, and leave S mode alone for the other function (or the other way around). I have used the sport drive mode which takes “rubber band “ feeling out of this wonderful e-cvt and makes it feel more like an EV or a preppy petrol automatic. But once you realise and get used to the fact that you can achieve somewhat similar response just by pressing the accelerator hard, the need to use that mode diminishes as well.
I have found it useful mainly during downhill drive. It is very important to have a check on the speed during this time; otherwise you have to use lot of brake. Shifting it down to desirable max gear (eg, 2nd or 3rd) helps a lot to maintain speed without using too much brake.

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My ORVMs have stopped auto folding when I lock the car. The switch is in the auto position (centre). I've tried toggling the switch but the issue persists.

Anyone else faced this issue? My car is a ZXO Hycross.
Check whether all doors are locking properly. Check it in the app also. I had similar type of problem few months back when I went for a long tour. One of my friend seated on the rear seat, used the car door lock handle as support for 300km; as a result the lock malfunctioned. I went to the service centre, but they could not resolve it. Finally I told them to disassemble the concerned door lock and reassamble it. It worked perfectly.

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Re: Toyota Innova Hycross Review

I have a GX variant of the hycross in bangalore city. While driving in the traffic, I have noticed a slight gear shift jerk when the car downshifts from 2nd to 1st at very low speeds around 6-7kmph in traffic. Is anyone else facing this issue or could I be something like low AT fluid or software programming issues on my particular car. Please advise, thanks in advance.
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Had my Hycross Vx serviced yesterday on 20k Km. They did an injector cleaning, and said it's recommended at 20k. I am getting better throttle response and also car is feeling lighter. May be it's an placebo effect. Any one have any opinion regarding this?
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That's an unbelievable economy you achieved with Hycross petrol in city, hope it is consistent and how are the highway figures?

I am getting my Hycross petrol delivered next month, can't wait anymore.
It totally depends on how you drive it. I was driving at 100kmph constantly almost throught my journey on the expressway which returned about 15kmpl. Whereas driving at around 80 can achieve around 17-18kmpl. The maximum I have gotten once was 25 kmpl but that was a once off which I have never been able to recreate while driving at 60 constantly. In bangalore city traffic these figures come down to 7-8. Hope that answers your queries. It is completely dependent on the driving style, traffic and road conditions but varies between 7-18 usually.
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Old 29th August 2024, 22:34   #3310
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Had my Hycross Vx serviced yesterday on 20k Km. They did an injector cleaning, and said it's recommended at 20k. I am getting better throttle response and also car is feeling lighter. May be it's an placebo effect. Any one have any opinion regarding this?
Injector cleaning is not mentioned in the scheduled service manual at 20k km, it might be an add-on on-service provided by the dealer and not recommended by Toyota.
How much did injector cleaning cost and what was the total service cost for 20k kms?
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Injector cleaning is not mentioned in the scheduled service manual at 20k km, it might be an add-on on-service provided by the dealer and not recommended by Toyota.
How much did injector cleaning cost and what was the total service cost for 20k kms?
Injector cleaning took around 1400 and total service cost was 7000.
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TLDR: 1 year of ownership with our Hycross Hybrid

Completed an year of ownership with our Hycross this Sunday (28/07/2024).
Our Hycross has completed 40k Kms on the odo today in 13 months of ownership.

Courtesy: Toyota iConnect App

During last update, the odo was at around 36.5k Kms and on the day I moved back to USA, which was on Aug 13th, the car had completed 38k Kms on the odo.

Hopefully, by the end of this year, the odo might cross 50k Kms.

During the 3 months of my stay in India, the car did nearly 10k Kms (the odo was at 28k Kms when I landed in India), where we had done a 2000 Kms trip to Kerala just few days after I landed in India.

Never imagined that we'd be doing more than 25-30k Kms of running in a year.
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Had my Hycross Vx serviced yesterday on 20k Km. They did an injector cleaning, and said it's recommended at 20k. I am getting better throttle response and also car is feeling lighter. May be it's a placebo effect. Any one have any opinion regarding this?
This varies on a case by case basis. If your injectors actually did have some sort of slight issues, it could clear it up and take your car’s performance back to normal. But if your car wasn’t having any issues in the first place, then it is just placebo.

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I have a GX variant of the hycross in bangalore city. While driving in the traffic, I have noticed a slight gear shift jerk when the car downshifts from 2nd to 1st at very low speeds around 6-7kmph in traffic. Is anyone else facing this issue or could I be something like low AT fluid or software programming issues on my particular car. Please advise, thanks in advance.
Petrol hycross uses a CVT with a physical first gear for better launches. What you are feeling is the CVT switching back to 1st gear at crawl speeds.
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On this week’s boring experiments, I have been driving a lot so I tried using XP95 petrol (95 octane). So waited till the reserve light came on and filled up a full tank of XP95. The price difference vs normal petrol in kochi was around 8rs and a full tank of 42L meant it was about 330rs more.

After driving around the whole week, I have noticed…..0 difference.
No difference in acceleration, no change in engine noise. I even tried flooring it a few times once half the tank was used up to be sure.

Tank to tank mileage stands at around 16.7Kmpl.
Which is around the same I got with normal 91 octane petrol.

Why did I bother even trying this? Due to the Hycross hybrid having a high 14:1 compression ratio, I was curious whether higher octane fuel would be beneficial. Apparently not. The compression ratio is so high because the Atkinson cycle allows a larger expansion ratio, not because the engine is compressing the air fuel mixture harder.

In conclusion, just stick to “regular” petrol unless the owner’s manual specifically states that the engine is designed to run on higher 95-100 octane fuel for optimum performance. The “premium” fuel marketing is just nonsense for cars that are not designed to use them.
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Why did I bother even trying this? Due to the Hycross hybrid having a high 14:1 compression ratio, I was curious whether higher octane fuel would be beneficial. Apparently not. The compression ratio is so high because the Atkinson cycle allows a larger expansion ratio, not because the engine is compressing the air fuel mixture harder.

In conclusion, just stick to “regular” petrol unless the owner’s manual specifically states that the engine is designed to run on higher 95-100 octane fuel for optimum performance. The “premium” fuel marketing is just nonsense for cars that are not designed to use them.
You're getting bored of this car, I see all the signs

Yes the effective compression ratio is lower as you have mentioned and in any case even GDi engines are not asking for premium fuel, atleast the ones made for India. So no point in spending more money on this, the whole point of that vehicle is to run on petrol while still saving money.
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