[Rajjaiswal92]

Originally Posted by shardul_pathak

Hi everyone!

I am on the cusp of buying a new car after parting ways with my 2015 Petrol Toyota Camry. I have been a Toyota user for over 20 years. It started with a Qualis, onto the first generation Innova, then to a Corolla Altis and Finally ended up with a 2015 Toyota Camry.

You can buy a new Camry with huge discounts ranging from 7-10 Lakhs, why buy a used one?

The Hycross is definitely worth the money, of all the vehicles I own the Hycross is the most used for highway runs the major reason being comfort, peace of mind (reliability of Toyota) and the average which ranges from 16 KMPL - 18 KMPL.

I have never really recommended any car to anyone as it is a very personal choice but I do recommend the Hycross to anyone looking for a car from this price range.

[shardul_pathak]

Originally Posted by Rajjaiswal92

The Hycross is definitely worth the money, of all the vehicles I own the Hycross is the most used for highway runs the major reason being comfort, peace of mind (reliability of Toyota) and the average which ranges from 16 KMPL - 18 KMPL.

I have never really recommended any car to anyone as it is a very personal choice but I do recommend the Hycross to anyone looking for a car from this price range.

Thanks @Rajjaiswal
True ownership experiences like yours are tilting the scale for Hycross' favour!

Originally Posted by Rajjaiswal92

You can but a new Camry with huge discounts ranging from 7-10 Lakhs, why buy a used one?

Even with a 10 lakh discount, the new Camry will be north of 40 lakhs on road. Given the last month's water logging situation, including a time where my wife and mother were almost left stranded when they were navigating their way out of a knee deep water flooded street, I am of the opinion that if I am spending in excess of 30 lakhs on a car, might as well get one which can reasonably wade through water.

The used Camry however at 15-16 lakhs however is tremendous value to not be considered.

[car_guy1998]

Did anyone get the 40k Kms service done on their Hycross Hybrid till date?

And, how much does the 40k Kms service cost?

Asking because our car has crossed 40,000 Kms on the odo a week ago and will be going to ASC for service this week.

Also, our car is in stationery since 4th Sep as my dad is not in town now.

[rajshenoy]

Originally Posted by shardul_pathak

I really like the Innova Hycross, for all its pros and cons. My biggest motivator for this choice is of course the strong hybrid technology, as I agree with the section on this forum that believes that Hybrids are the most realistic solution to solving the carbon emission problem.

On the flip side, I am also contemplating buying a used Camry Hybrid, 2017-2018 model year.

Not sure if 2017-18 Camry is the current(india market) gen car as I too was confused between used Camry(current generation) vs hycross and found Camry to be too overpriced in used car market(30+ lakhs in bangalore)

Hycross is a great choice in 30 lakh segment(hardly any competition), drives like a car(I swapped my corolla altis) is extremely frugal(18-19 kmpl in peak bangalore traffic) and has good power and manoeuvrable in city

If you plan to keep the car for 10+ years, find the third row useful for those rare occasions, you should opt for hycross.

I never needed 7 seater car, so went with rear captain seats and find it very comfortable and with easy access to third row, it is very usable too

[car_guy1998]

Originally Posted by car_guy1998

Did anyone get the 40k Kms service done on their Hycross Hybrid till date?

And, how much does the 40k Kms service cost?

Asking because our car has crossed 40,000 Kms on the odo a week ago and will be going to ASC for service this week.

Also, our car is in stationery since 4th Sep as my dad is not in town now.

Our chauffeur has given the car for service today and the estimation I got is Rs.18k, where I'd be getting all the filters changed along with WA and WB. The labour itself has costed Rs.9k, which is bit shocking to me to say the least.

Will post the actual bill after the car is back from the service.

[shardul_pathak]

Originally Posted by rajshenoy

Not sure if 2017-18 Camry is the current(india market) gen car as I too was confused between used Camry(current generation) vs hycross and found Camry to be too overpriced in used car market(30+ lakhs in bangalore)

Hey @rajshenoy, no the used camry I am talking about are not the current generation on sale, which is essentially a Lexus ES. Its one generation before, which was on sale from 2016-2018 if I am not wrong. They are available for anywhere between 15-17 lakhs in Mumbai, by only apprehension with these cars is the longevity of hybrid batteries.

Originally Posted by rajshenoy

Hycross is a great choice in 30 lakh segment(hardly any competition), drives like a car(I swapped my corolla altis) is extremely frugal(18-19 kmpl in peak bangalore traffic) and has good power and manoeuvrable in city

If you plan to keep the car for 10+ years, find the third row useful for those rare occasions, you should opt for hycross.

Another point for the Hycross, its making a very very strong case for itself!

[anilsequeira]

Hi Team-Bhpians,
I have given my Hycross VX for 1st year servicing, driven around 7300 KM, very gently handled it till now, no rough terrain drives. SA from Nandi toyota suggested Wheel alignment/balancing every 10000 Km/ every year which ever comes first and also added so many line items (not sure if all of this is required or not). Is it really required? The bill is around 13000/-. Please find the estimate provided by the SA.
Labour Charges
042214B WHEEL BALANCE - FOUR -ADJST 955.00
043233 WHEEL ALIGNMENT - INSP 998729 1,146.00
10000 10,000 KM SERVICE - INSP 998729 0.00
17199 OTHERS - AIR CLEANER 998729 1,547.10
17199 - ENGINE DECARBONISATION null
17899 OTHERS - EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 983.65
17899 - EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION VALVE CLEANING null
99TGSH01 TGLOSS AC Duct Cleaning and Disinfectant 998729 1,459.00
99TGSH01 - AC DUCT AND EVAPORATOR CLEANING null
99TGSP03 TGLOSS Silencer Coating 998729 1,543.00
Part Charges
WINDSHIELD WASHER FLUID 34029099 3 0.00
CLEANER INJECTOR 38119000 1 1,207.00
ENGINE, FLUSH 27101990 1 1,239.00
GASKET 76169990 1 0.00
FILTER, OIL 84212300 1 0.00
Oil Charges
L-0888-085644 Synthetic Engine oil (For Hyry 27101972 46 0.00

Labour 7,633.75
Parts 2,446.00
Total 10,079.75
Total Tax 3,019.66
Total amount with TAX: 13,099.41

Seems to be very high. Please suggest or recommend what is required and what is not. thanks. My usage is very less weekly 5 km, and go for outings occasionally. I also have a smiles package for 2 years or 20K KM. Looking forward to your response at the earliest. Thanks.

[shikh_oberoi]

Don't pay anything to this moron. Just get the engine oil, air filter and oil filter. That's it.
No need for all these useless things. And do file a complaint against him. Who suggests engine flush at 7500 kms?
No need for wheel balancing and alignment, injector cleaning and all the other nonsense. He will definitely confuse you and say car will demand repairs in the future, just don't listen to him.

[iTNerd]

Originally Posted by anilsequeira

Hi Team-Bhpians,

Seems to be very high. Please suggest or recommend what is required and what is not. thanks. My usage is very less weekly 5 km, and go for outings occasionally. I also have a smiles package for 2 years or 20K KM. Looking forward to your response at the earliest. Thanks.

You can opt out of the followings which are useless, IMHO, considering yours has run a few thousands. You easily save 6-7K.

042214B WHEEL BALANCE - FOUR -ADJST 955.00
043233 WHEEL ALIGNMENT - INSP 998729 1,146.00
17199 OTHERS - AIR CLEANER 998729 1,547.10
99TGSH01 TGLOSS AC Duct Cleaning and Disinfectant 998729 1,459.00
99TGSH01 - AC DUCT AND EVAPORATOR CLEANING null
99TGSP03 TGLOSS Silencer Coating 998729 1,543.00

[amalji]

Originally Posted by anilsequeira

Hi Team-Bhpians,
I have given my Hycross VX for 1st year servicing, driven around 7300 KM, very gently handled it till now, no rough terrain drives. SA from Nandi toyota suggested Wheel alignment/balancing every 10000 Km/ every year which ever comes first and also added so many line items (not sure if all of this is required or not). Is it really required? The bill is around 13000/-. Please find the estimate provided by the SA.
Labour Charges
042214B WHEEL BALANCE - FOUR -ADJST 955.00
043233 WHEEL ALIGNMENT - INSP 998729 1,146.00
10000 10,000 KM SERVICE - INSP 998729 0.00
17199 OTHERS - AIR CLEANER 998729 1,547.10
17199 - ENGINE DECARBONISATION null
17899 OTHERS - EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 983.65
17899 - EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION VALVE CLEANING null
99TGSH01 TGLOSS AC Duct Cleaning and Disinfectant 998729 1,459.00
99TGSH01 - AC DUCT AND EVAPORATOR CLEANING null
99TGSP03 TGLOSS Silencer Coating 998729 1,543.00
Part Charges
WINDSHIELD WASHER FLUID 34029099 3 0.00
CLEANER INJECTOR 38119000 1 1,207.00
ENGINE, FLUSH 27101990 1 1,239.00
GASKET 76169990 1 0.00
FILTER, OIL 84212300 1 0.00
Oil Charges
L-0888-085644 Synthetic Engine oil (For Hyry 27101972 46 0.00

Labour 7,633.75
Parts 2,446.00
Total 10,079.75
Total Tax 3,019.66
Total amount with TAX: 13,099.41

Seems to be very high. Please suggest or recommend what is required and what is not. thanks. My usage is very less weekly 5 km, and go for outings occasionally. I also have a smiles package for 2 years or 20K KM. Looking forward to your response at the earliest. Thanks.

It's a scam to add items not part of the service to the estimate when all you did was to ask them to perform x000 service. Mention them explicitly not to add a single item not recommended by Toyota during the service. Cross check with the user manual as well. These are the red flags that I can straight away spot.

17199 OTHERS - AIR CLEANER 998729 1,547.10 - What do they mean by Air cleaner? If they meant the air filter / cabin filter, its replacement intervals are much larger ( 30,000 kms or so )

All of the below are scams forced on you.

• 17199 - ENGINE DECARBONISATION null - Scam!
• 17899 OTHERS - EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 983.65 - Scam!
• 17899 - EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION VALVE CLEANING null - Scam!
• 99TGSH01 TGLOSS AC Duct Cleaning and Disinfectant 998729 1,459.00 - This should be done only if you ask for it explicitly. No business being part of regular service.
• 99TGSH01 - AC DUCT AND EVAPORATOR CLEANING null - This should be done only if you ask for it explicitly. No business being part of regular service.
• 99TGSP03 TGLOSS Silencer Coating 998729 1,543.00 - No business being part of regular service
• CLEANER INJECTOR 38119000 1 1,207.00 - This is not recommended for Hycross in India. But, in some countries, it's recommended as per user manual.
• ENGINE, FLUSH 27101990 1 1,239.00 - Engine flush at 10000 kms???? What are they smoking ?

[skoda0505]

Hi, quick question - in NCR we have 10 year rule for diesel vehicles. Does Hycross Hybrid come under this rule or does it have a longer time to run on NCR roads?

[hummer]

Originally Posted by anilsequeira

Hi Team-Bhpians,

Total amount with TAX: 13,099.41

Seems to be very high. Please suggest or recommend what is required and what is not. thanks. My usage is very less weekly 5 km, and go for outings occasionally. I also have a smiles package for 2 years or 20K KM. Looking forward to your response at the earliest. Thanks.

This is unToyota, I have heard very good customer care from Toyota service, in fact they are well known for it, may be someone is trying to extract maximum out of a customer.

Which dealership is this, so that we know where to be cautious?

[anilsequeira]

Originally Posted by amalji

It's a scam to add items not part of the service to the estimate when all you did was to ask them to perform x000 service. Mention them explicitly not to add a single item not recommended by Toyota during the service. Cross check with the user manual as well. These are the red flags that I can straight away spot.

17199 OTHERS - AIR CLEANER 998729 1,547.10 - What do they mean by Air cleaner? If they meant the air filter / cabin filter, its replacement intervals are much larger ( 30,000 kms or so )

All of the below are scams forced on you.

• 17199 - ENGINE DECARBONISATION null - Scam!
• 17899 OTHERS - EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 983.65 - Scam!
• 17899 - EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION VALVE CLEANING null - Scam!
• 99TGSH01 TGLOSS AC Duct Cleaning and Disinfectant 998729 1,459.00 - This should be done only if you ask for it explicitly. No business being part of regular service.
• 99TGSH01 - AC DUCT AND EVAPORATOR CLEANING null - This should be done only if you ask for it explicitly. No business being part of regular service.
• 99TGSP03 TGLOSS Silencer Coating 998729 1,543.00 - No business being part of regular service
• CLEANER INJECTOR 38119000 1 1,207.00 - This is not recommended for Hycross in India. But, in some countries, it's recommended as per user manual.
• ENGINE, FLUSH 27101990 1 1,239.00 - Engine flush at 10000 kms???? What are they smoking ?

Thanks @Amalji and all others who responded so fast. I got a bit late in refuting as he had already completed the tasks in 40 minutes . He completed the Wheel alignment/balancing unfortunately. Also included the Engine flush/ cleaner injector. Wow, this is all a scam. Unnecessarily spent so much. Thanks all. I think the final bill is 5000/- including -
Wheel alignment 955.00
/balancing/ 1,146.00
CLEANER INJECTOR 1,207.00
ENGINE, FLUSH 1,276.00
Labour - 2,101.00
Parts - 2,483.00
Total - 4,584.00
Total Tax - 1,312.26
Total Amount with Tax - 5,896.26

A-08813-80019 CLEANER INJECTOR 38119000 1 1,207.00
A-08814-80090 ENGINE, FLUSH 27101990 1 1,276.00

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by hummer

This is unToyota, I have heard very good customer care from Toyota service, in fact they are well known for it, may be someone is trying to extract maximum out of a customer.

Which dealership is this, so that we know where to be cautious?

This has become common practice with dealers in Bangalore these days irrespective of brand. Even after haggling they manage to squeeze few "Value additions".

[rakesh_r]

Originally Posted by anilsequeira

Unnecessarily spent so much.

The owner's manual is your best friend. Only approve those tasks that are mentioned in the manual, rest can be easily brushed off.