[84.monsoon]

Originally Posted by VnsAlpha9

I think it's a nobrainer and plan to go about buying Invicto Alpha Plus this month.
Any inputs will be highly appreciated.

If I remember correctly, the Invicto does not get ADAS. I agree that many of the ADAS features are not usable in our traffic conditions, but there is one feature - Blind Spot Monitor, (BSM), which I think is a vital safety feature. I found this hugely useful when I rented a car in Europe during a recent trip. It can be a great tool to avoid accidents when you are driving in the highway are even in faster city traffic, especially if you are a spirited driver who often changes lanes to get past other vehicles.

We often do not notice fast moving vehicles including two wheelers in the ORVMs which might be in our blind spot. Of course, we are used to looking over our shoulders while doing lane changes but even here, one might miss something in heavy rains or low visibility situations. The implementation of the Blind Spot Monitor feature in the top-end Innova Hycross lights up a blinking spot on the ORVM, when there is another vehicle in the blind spot area. Once you get used to it, this is an awesome feature and makes you feel more confident when making lane changes, or other sideways direction changes of your vehicle.

The implementation of the blind spot monitor in some of the other vehicles equipped with ADAS, such as the Honda City or XUV 700 is not so good as the one in the Hycross, as they simply display the ORVM camera feed from the respective side, once you activate the lane change indicator. This is dependant on triggering it through the use of the indicator and also harder to monitor, as you have to take your eyes off the broader field of driving vision and narrow your focus on the instrument cluster (in the XUV) or the ICE screen (in the City).

There are other ADAS features which are also useful like the Rear Cross Traffic Alert, which is very useful while reversing the car. Lane keep assist is also useful during long drives on good well-marked highways with low traffic. You might want to consider these factors while choosing the Invicto.

[Clansman86]

Originally Posted by Thead

I do not know if any of the other fellow BHPians have had such a unprofessional experience with Globe Toyota Mohali but the sheer frustration of transacting with an unprofessional dealership leaves me wondering if Toyota really cares about how thier customers are treated by its dealers.

I had a similar experience in Bangalore with Ravindu Toyota.I needed a big car with the arrival of our younger kid imminent in feb 2023. I booked the xuv700 in Aug 2022, the Innova hycross in Oct 2022 and the Kia Carnival in Sep 2022.

The Mahindra folks were the most organised with handling long wating periods. They gave me a tracking number and regular updates. They acted like they cared even though the cars were literally flying off their lots. The Toyota folks were the least transparent and could offer no information about a delivery date. They just kept saying that the ZX and ZXO were in high demand and there's no guarantee on timelines.

Though my mind wanted to wait for the fuel efficient 3 lac cheaper hycross ,my heart was always with the big KIA full size luxury minivan even though it was a dated design. I eventually cancelled both the Toyota and XUV700 bookings and got my KIA in March 2023. The KIA dealership gave me all the attention in the world and listened to my every request. One of the last ones they sold before they pulled the plug on the car.

[PB65]

Originally Posted by Thead

I do not know if any of the other fellow BHPians have had such a unprofessional experience with Globe Toyota Mohali but the sheer frustration of transacting with an unprofessional dealership leaves me wondering if Toyota really cares about how thier customers are treated by its dealers.

Pioneer Toyota is far better. These Globe people are very unprofessional as most of their clientele is coming from remote regions who have just sold some land by the highway. No offense to anyone but sadly that's the truth. So their expectations are always to mint out money by selling a hotseller in black. Sadly, the clientele that they deal with has spoilt them for choice amongst customers, as they know if not you, someone else will come within a day or 2 again.

Pioneer caters to Chandigarh, and Panchkula. And the experience is far better there, right from the TD phase. Heck, even SAS Nagar and Zirakpur people who are aware of the car scene prefer to travel extra 15km to Pioneer.

[Thead]

Originally Posted by PB65

Pioneer Toyota is far better. These Globe people are very unprofessional as most of their clientele is coming from remote regions who have just sold some land by the highway.

I agree and I realised it too late. Having waited so long, I just resigned to my destiny.
If you look at the leadership of Pioneer, you realise how they are driving this professional culture. The leadership is young with a growth mindset understanding the psyche of the customer. I believe they started with a petrol pump and then branched out to cars and the hospitality industry which perhaps gives them a better perspective of the customer.

[Crystafan]

Is it advisable to shift to manual mode while driving down step slopes. Has anyone faced any braking issue with Hycross while on automatic mode on such slopes?
Asking based on a trending post where the speaker seems to have lost brakes in an automatic crysta. Sorry it's in Malayalam https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBJxO...Rkd2EzZzJuZjE4

[amalji]

Originally Posted by Crystafan

Is it advisable to shift to manual mode while driving down step slopes. Has anyone faced any braking issue with Hycross while on automatic mode on such slopes?
Asking based on a trending post where the speaker seems to have lost brakes in an automatic crysta. Sorry it's in Malayalam https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBJxO...Rkd2EzZzJuZjE4

I always switch to manual and down shift to get engine braking on my crysta diesel automatic when I'm coming downhill. It's a good practice to do that. In fact the only reason why I would switch to manual mode on any automatic gearbox is when coming downhill.

The first set of brake pads on our crysta lasted for 75,000 kms ( 2.5 mm left when we changed ) inspite of crysta being powerful, heavy and not having much of engine braking.

[ashivas89]

Originally Posted by manofinfinity

1. You can mute or play/pause by long pressing the mode button on the steering wheel you will hear a beep when it is done.
2. You can cycle through the trip meters by pressing the black knob present on the instrument cluster and to reset the trip meter just long-press the knob.
3. This is a tricky process I have set the custom setting to unlock all the doors when shifted from D to P as shown in the manual, the mistake I made was that I didn’t release the lock/unlock button after 5 sec, you have to release the button after 5 secs.

All of these worked!

It is hilarious that I did not notice the Alto/santo/zen type kaddi/dandi hidden behind the wheel! Somehow I expected a 30 L rupee car to manage everything via the buttons on the wheel/infotainment. Did toyota do this to facilitate chauffeurs? Perhaps... but I love their approach despite it flummoxing the Auto RD guy yours truly is Honestly, cant stop laughing..

I somehow got trigger happy with the user manual and did not read all of the posts pertaining to the unlock scenarios.. attributable to an an impatient auto industry employee again .. Sheesh!

@manofinfinity sincere thanks again sir!

Team-BHP humbles even industry gits like me

[ashivas89]

Originally Posted by Crystafan

Is it advisable to shift to manual mode while driving down step slopes. Has anyone faced any braking issue with Hycross while on automatic mode on such slopes?
Asking based on a trending post where the speaker seems to have lost brakes in an automatic crysta. Sorry it's in Malayalam https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBJxO...Rkd2EzZzJuZjE4

In any diesel automobile, engine braking is an engineered cosntruct.. Sure the transmission and engine friction will sap energy, but this is a very small amount compared to the overall vehicle kinetic energy.. what you typically feel is the resistance due to compression in diesel engines which is "induced". With relativley simple TC ATs unlike MTs they try to maximise "coastability" so their induced engine braking effect is poor. This was a PITA with my ex Verna 1.6 diesel 6 AT.

Meanwhile with the Hycross which has superior brakes (disks all round which help in terms of sustained braking and transient cooling) regenerative braking, a lighter car, petrol engine etc., while it still advisable to use powertrain braking, it will be significantly better than a TC AT diesel car with rear drums..

The Hycross brakes eminetly better than my Slavia DSG in terms of repeated/ sustained braking. My Slavia only wins in terms of the first three/ four brake applications.. Unless there is a significant cooldown (acceleration/ cruising) phase in-between, the MUV has my sedan licked.. The heavy diesel AT Crysta stands 0 chance.

[manofinfinity]

Originally Posted by ashivas89

All of these worked!

It is hilarious that I did not notice the Alto/santo/zen type kaddi/dandi hidden behind the wheel! Somehow I expected a 30 L rupee car to manage everything via the buttons on the wheel/infotainment. Did toyota do this to facilitate chauffeurs? Perhaps... but I love their approach

I love the way Toyota/Japanese manufacturers just do these they try to keep things simple and practical and they do not do fancy or over-complicated things, a simple example is the trip meter implantation by Japanese/Germans is much simpler and better than what Koreans/Indians are doing.
I remember the poor implementation of the trip metres in my XUV 500 which half of the time didn’t work and now in my Seltos which has two automated trip meters and only one manual trip meter.
Also, I loved the fact that Toyota still provided analogue dials in the instrument cluster for all the basic things in the Hycross.

[ashwinikalantri]

Originally Posted by jinojohnt

Dealer charges 17.5K for dashcam official accessory (front and back). There is no rattling in A-Pillar Panel after installation.

I didn’t buy the Toyota dashcam, instead went for 70mai a510 dual channel dashcam. The service center didn’t install it for me. The FNG wasn’t able to fit the A pillar correctly and it has a gap.

[dearchichi]

Originally Posted by ashwinikalantri

The FNG wasn’t able to fit the A pillar correctly and it has a gap.

My Toyota dealer installed my Viofo A229 Plus dashcam in the same manner as the Toyota DVR. No fuse taps or rattling.

[car_guy1998]

Folks,

What’s the FE you are getting on your Hycross Hybrid till date in T2T method? Asking because it’s been more than a year since Hycross was launched and owners have reported the mileage through MID till date but never reported T2T method till date.

But during my stay in India, I’ve got an FE of 18 Kmpl T2T when driven in city and some driving on ORR.

Also, I got 17.5 Kmpl T2T when the car was new and 16 Kmpl during our Kerala trip this May.

But sometimes I feel our car is giving around 13-14 Kmpl T2T in mixed conditions (80:20 on highway and city). Being Hybrid, I’ve expected a lot but bit disappointed with the FE.

Is anyone getting similar mileage on their Hycross or are there any tips to improve the FE of the Hycross?

The car has been driven on normal mode till date and never used eco mode since its purchase.

Btw, the car has run close to 44k Kms(43,700 Kms to be precise) in almost 15 months of ownership.

[jinojohnt]

Real world figures for Petrol (non-Hybrid) Hycross, with A/C at 24 to 25 degrees, tank-full to tank-full method, eco mode, when the car has barely crossed 500km in odo:

1. Town usage 10.25 km/l with a light foot, one to five people on board.
2. Highway usage 15.25 km/l with mild aggressive driving occasionally, but never crossed 80 kmph, five people on board

There was no bumper to bumper traffic (but no free run either) in both town and highway usage.

Originally Posted by Crystafan

Is it advisable to shift to manual mode while driving down step slopes. Has anyone faced any braking issue with Hycross while on automatic mode on such slopes?[/url]

Petrol (non-hybrid) Hycross sure has more engine braking than I would like. The vehicle slows down the moment you take your foot off the pedal. May be it uses the same technology as the hybrid (minus the charging).

While going down a slope, I generally go in manual mode because of two reasons:
a. Very easy to shift to manual mode (and back) at the flick of the gear shifter. No need to hunt for D-3-2-L like a traditional automatic.
b. It will not upshift on its own, but will downshift if the car slows down. Thus, you don't need to use brakes while going down slope. If you think the car is going too fast down slope in manual mode, just tap the brake once, the car downshifts to the lower gear and stays in that gear. Very convenient.

[hummer]

Originally Posted by dearchichi

My Toyota dealer installed my Viofo A229 Plus dashcam in the same manner as the Toyota DVR. No fuse taps or rattling.

Hello dearchichi, May I know which dealership is this?

Even I want to install an after market dashcam, I bought my Hycross from Ravindu Outer Ring Road, Bangalore.

Thinking of one the below:
• 70MAI Pro Plus + A500S Dual Channel
• REDTIGER F7NP Dual Channel
• 70MAI A510 Dual Channel
• Viofo A229 Plus dashcam

[dearchichi]

Originally Posted by hummer

May I know which dealership is this?

This was at Ravindu, Rajajinagar (opposite ISKCON).

I went with the Viofo A229 Plus due to it's capacitance based operation (no fear of lithium batteries exploding if heated), 2K front and rear cameras with HDR (Sony Starvis 2 which supposedly yields better night-time images), it's reputation for being reliable and good support (I bought the product in January but installed only in April; the company started the warranty window only upon installation). I haven't faced any issues thus far.