[aerohit]

I would like to buy Jimny, but I will wait for K15C dualjet engine or even a 6AT. Maruti have this tech already (xl6), hope they come up with Jimny version 2 in near future.

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by aerohit

I would like to buy Jimny, but I will wait for K15C dualjet engine or even a 6AT. Maruti have this tech already (xl6), hope they come up with Jimny version 2 in near future.

Why would you wait for the engine with lesser power designed to meet emissions and the gearbox that is designed for better efficiency. IT's like making the already slow Jimny even slower and waiting for it to get slower!

The good thing right now is that they got the K15B and not C cause the B had better lower end response and even better to rev freely. The K15C is just plain dead and flat response.

Besides, its better to have the proven mechanicals globally of the K15B and 4AT.

[offroad_maniac]

Originally Posted by gsferrari

Thank you for the pictures and videos. I would like to offer a contrasting opinion about engaging 4wd.

In your video you have mentioned to NOT engage 4wd unless it is necessary. This is incorrect advice because once you are stuck or slide off the road in 2H it will likely be too late.

There is nothing macho or heroic about crossing obstacles in 2H vs 4H. Getting stuck in 2H and then looking foolish is avoidable. If a sitiation can be tackled more safely in 4H, please engage it without thought. That's why it is there in the first place.

I never understood this mentality of treating 4H as a special tool. Full time 4WD cars are so good in extreme conditions for a reason. There is no 2H at all.

+100

Thats why I also not changed the fixed hubs on my Bolero to free wheeling ones. I prefer engaging 4wd and drive on and not worry about forgetting to lock FWH. Good that modern 4wd dont have to worry about this at all.



Congratulations to all Jimny owners on this forum. Really great to see such delivery and drive experience along with pics.

[astrodex]

I shifted my choices from Red to Bluish Black since that was the only color available. Called the SA and had him shift the car to South Goa. Went there in the afternoon to do PDI and I instintively knew where the car was parked. There was a small crowd around it, mostly sales people. Apparently, this is the first Jimny to come to South Goa

The vehicle is new and they also don't know much about the accessories. He came up with a list of 3 items and I handed him a list of 7 items I needed alongwith the prices. He said he would get back to me.

Btw, I wanted to get front parking sensors, I remember seeing it in one of the accessory lists, but not the latest one shared here. Anyone else got it?

I was expecting a bluish tinge, but probably because of the overcast sky, Jimny looked all black. Some parting shots ...

[aerohit]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

Why would you wait for the engine with lesser power designed to meet emissions and the gearbox that is designed for better efficiency. IT's like making the already slow Jimny even slower and waiting for it to get slower!

The good thing right now is that they got the K15B and not C cause the B had better lower end response and even better to rev freely. The K15C is just plain dead and flat response.

Besides, its better to have the proven mechanicals globally of the K15B and 4AT.

I guess you are kinda right though.

I think K15C may be superior mechanically with better fuel injection (dual injectors). The reason it feels underpowered is not due mechanical issue, but due to ECU tuning ( which I can tune it myself as per my requirement) and fix the low end issue that you mentioned.

Will borrow a K15C ECU and check if tuning makes any difference.

Also, I am sure have 2 more gears in an AT is not a bad idea at all. Lets see.

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[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by gsferrari

Thank you for the pictures and videos. I would like to offer a contrasting opinion about engaging 4wd.

In your video you have mentioned to NOT engage 4wd unless it is necessary. This is incorrect advice because once you are stuck or slide off the road in 2H it will likely be too late.

There is nothing macho or heroic about crossing obstacles in 2H vs 4H. Getting stuck in 2H and then looking foolish is avoidable. If a sitiation can be tackled more safely in 4H, please engage it without thought. That's why it is there in the first place.

I never understood this mentality of treating 4H as a special tool. Full time 4WD cars are so good in extreme conditions for a reason. There is no 2H at all.

Well its not about being hero; but I have seen few friends who would put 4H on roads which have good traction but when they start to get nervous. These are mountain roads with sharp bends. Fulltime 4WD have open central diffs so those are fine in these cases. But a proper 4x4 transfer case has to be engaged into 4H/4L when the wheels can slip for the compensation in radius of turn.
This saves their transfer case. Thus I still stand with my comment in the video. Its better to look foolish for few seconds than winding up the transmission or tcase.

This is the reason that you have synchronizers for 2H/4H so you can shift on fly as soon as you feel the slip.

Originally Posted by aerohit

I would like to buy Jimny, but I will wait for K15C dualjet engine or even a 6AT. Maruti have this tech already (xl6), hope they come up with Jimny version 2 in near future.

I dont think it will ever come. The 6 speed transmission of xl6 or any other MS front wheel drive car is transverse and the Jimny needs a longitudinal one. Suzuki would rather spend money and energy on EV version of Jimny.
The 4 speed TC is actually suited for Jimny as the ATF is user replaceable, the gearbox can hold 1, 1-2, 1-2-3, and 1-4 via the gear control stick.
I would say buy this if you want to get the best version of the Jimny. Even if they launch K15C with 4 speed AT, it would be more duller than the K15B.

[neerajku]

Glad to read the very well captured initial impressions. This is what many of us were expecting. We will see Thar struggling after a year or so and those who can afford to, selling off Thar. Their engineering and refinement is far far away from Maruti.

[purohitanuj]

Snapshot from Jimny Manual for 4x4 Transfer case guidelines





Thus, always apply on slippery surface which is for sure slippery and not just anticipated as slippery.

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

Some pics of mine (in Granite Grey) with 215/75R15 Apollo Apterra AT2. Got it on 9th June.

Originally Posted by gsferrari

There is nothing macho or heroic about crossing obstacles in 2H vs 4H. Getting stuck in 2H and then looking foolish is avoidable. If a sitiation can be tackled more safely in 4H, please engage it without thought. That's why it is there in the first place.

Add to what gs mentioned, trying silly stuff in 2H instead of 4H puts additional strain and wear and tear on components. The transfer case is hung on rubber dampers and they along with prop shaft bushes are the first one to take the brunt.

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

Thus, always apply on slippery surface which is for sure slippery and not just anticipated as slippery.

On the other hand....

If the terrain is steep and slippery 4H helps, unnecessarily using 4H on a regular road surface where a 2H will climb without an issue is an overkill and unwanted strain on the tranny if it does not have complex slip differential / torque vectoring systems not in place. Egs driving on ghats with 4H coz it is raining on a vehicle like Jimny is not recommended, whereas a Mitsubishi Monetro it is possible and enhances stability / is mentioned in the vehicles manual. So vehicle manual is always a good place to start understand how things need to be engaged.

Another thing I noted is shifting while in drive, yes it can be done on the fly till 60 kmph. But as far as possible and if possible, shift while the gearbox is in Neutral and wait for the flashing lamps to stop. More of a best practice.

[pheru8b]

Originally Posted by astrodex

I was expecting a bluish tinge, but probably because of the overcast sky, Jimny looked all black.

When I saw the blueish black Jimny at the dealership, and it was under white lights, it looked all black to me, too. Refer the attached picture.

But whatever the colour, it looked incredible! And now I'm wavering between the kinetic yellow (my booking choice) and this colour!

[Djay]

Had a chance for a short test drive of the Jimny. The car was an Alpha AT. My initial impressions from the short drive on interior and service roads -

Overall Drivability - Feels incredibly like a normal car to drive. This was the first time I was driving a ladder-on-frame vehicle and was skeptical based on many comments on this thread. But it felt like any other car to me and overall drivability for city use was excellent.

Steering - The steering is well tuned, not extremely precise but overall, pretty good. There is very little vagueness and it's light enough to use in the city.

Suspension - The suspension is excellent and really silent. It simply glided over harsh surfaces and unpaved roads without any sound or crashing of the suspension. There is a bit of body roll and side to side movement, but it's expected and well contained.

Engine & Transmission - The 4 AT is no scorcher and a bit lethargic, but is adequate and comfortable for city use. Didn't get a chance to drive it on the highway, but should be fine up to 80-90kmph I guess. The engine was silent and overall NVH was excellent.

Driving Position - The overall driving ergonomics were good with great visibility. Height adjustment would have been excellent, but can be managed with a good cushion.

Finally, the most discussed topic being Turning Radius - It is a bit on the higher side for a complete U-turn, but can be managed. The reverse camera being standard helps in 3-point turns. Had no difficulty in managing the overall vehicle dimensions and while performing turns in all situations.

Overall, I don't see any issues with this being a single car for small families. There don't seem to be many compromises and the offroad potential is unmatched.

PS: The sales guys were completely unaware of the 4H/4L operation and had no clue about when to use it and when it should be avoided. The test drive vehicles will probably end up with damages with customers and sales guys playing around with this.

[88_TANK_88]

New kid on the block.

The Jimny has same PCD as the Gypsy. So if you have drooled over any steel wheel/tyre combo on Gypsies, you can order them for the Jimny. The 7J wheels and BFGs in the white Gypsy were a straight swap as tested. For now, the Jimny has Yokohama Geolanders on stock alloys.

[SUVolens]

Originally Posted by Djay

Finally, the most discussed topic being Turning Radius - It is a bit on the higher side for a complete U-turn, but can be managed. The reverse camera being standard helps in 3-point turns. Had no difficulty in managing the overall vehicle dimensions and while performing turns in all situations.

Overall, I don't see any issues with this being a single car for small families. There don't seem to be many compromises and the offroad potential is unmatched.
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Completely agree with these observations.

On the steering, apart from the slightly higher than average turning radius, the issue is the much slower steering input to the wheels that will require getting used to for people with other cars. The off-roading DNA ensures this behaviour for calibrated response over rocky terrain, but in crowded city parking, this means many more twirls of the wheel than one is used to, and that can be initially frustrating while trying to nudge in or out of a tight spot between two vehicles. So, that kind of plays against the convenience of the small form factor that another car like the Ignis would reward you with. You win some and you lose some I guess.

[gsferrari]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

Thus, always apply on slippery surface which is for sure slippery and not just anticipated as slippery.

I think you are cherrypicking and mixing facts and the diabolical idiosyncrasies of the english language to support your statement.

Fact is you don't enter a terrain that is visibly challenging in 2wd when 4wd is available. Soft sand and slush are sections where lots of traction results in wheelspin which will cause the vehicle to sink down until the chassis sits on the terrain. At this point shifting to 4wd is useless.

It is always safer to enter difficult terrain in 4h or even 4L. When to use 4wd? Learn! There are several 4wd training academies as well as the regular off-road enthusiasts groups. Enrol, participate and push yourself and the vehicle to understand the limitations.

Going into a terrain in 2wd and getting stuck is insanity. Please do not peddle these incorrect concepts.

I never advocated using 4H/4L on tarmac. Your video clearly showed a soft/sandy/rutted terrain. I am extending an invite to you to join us at a river bed where you can attempt obstacles in 2wd all day long, even innocuous looking ones. I'll keep a tractor on hand with a tow rope just in case.

[swarnava.ch]

I am going to the showroom today to have the first look at a display car. My main concern is driver seat height. I am 5 ft 4.5 inch in height so usually keep my seat at the top position while driving. Without the seat height adjustment, how is the Jimny driver view for a short heighted person ?