[blogslogger]

I would like to think Road Safety can be explained well by Dr. Reason's Swiss cheese model. There are multiple factors (layers) for the cause. Any accident requires the holes in the different layers of cheese to be perfectly aligned.



Driver: Always the first line of defence. Skill, attentiveness, physical and mental condition play an important role.

Road Conditions: Conditions of the road- Friction, surface, speeds of traffic, animals etc.. It also includes time of the day, traffic flow and type of traffic.

Active Safety: Good tyres, brakes, Handling of the car, ABS, ADAS etc.

Passive Safety: Airbags, Structure of the car, seatbelts etc.

It is not wise to ignore any of the above and try to choose cars which satisfy most of them in the budget.

And lastly, for those who believe, luck is a massive factor.

[abhi3284]

Originally Posted by Flasshhhh

I personally do this every time I park my car.
I don't think there will be any damage.

Ok. And you press the Release button on the Stick, when moving from N to P?

[OpenRoads]

I am glad you are safe. I had a similar experience many years back. I had a night deployment activity during holiday season. My family had already travelled to hometown and I thought of suprising them in the morning. It was a 3 hours drive on highway. Due to exhaustion or maybe cool morning breeze I dozed off for couple of seconds and woke up once the car steered right into unpaved patch. There was no ADAS back then but out of sheer luck nothing happened. I realised what a big mistake it was on my part and to this day due to that incident with or without ADAS I never drive whenever tired. Now during long trips I park my car safely and take 15~30 mins break if needed. ADAS is sold as a feature for the top spec variants only but at the end it would help save lives. Like other safety features it should be made standard across variants.

[blogslogger]

Originally Posted by OpenRoads

ADAS is sold as a feature for the top spec variants only but at the end it would help save lives. Like other safety features it should be made standard across variants.

ADAS, atleast the autonomous braking is standard across the range in many countries. Hope that becomes the norm in India as well. But ADAS is quite expensive and would increase the cost of the cars by at least 1 lakh at the minimum. So there is a definite cost-benefit analysis that needs to be done.

[NiInJa]

Literally have to thank God and technology for saving. Our highways are getting better, anyone who says ADAS is not needed should read such stories.

My cousin got asleep once on Mumbai-Pune expressway and he was a bit nonchalant about the whole thing when we all got back home. The whole family went ballistic on him to make him understand how dangerous it was, with a 3 year old kid inside the car!

Please make a point to understand your body. 40s and 50s is the age when the mind is energetic at all time, but the body isn't, and somehow the mind is not ready to accept it.

[Flasshhhh]

Originally Posted by abhi3284

Ok. And you press the Release button on the Stick, when moving from N to P?

Yup. That I do. Just press the release button and move it from "N" to "P".

[OpenRoads]

Originally Posted by blogslogger

So there is a definite cost-benefit analysis that needs to be done.

I would choose life anyday. It's true that price would be higher but it's totally worth it

[RiderS]

First of all, very glad to know that you are safe!

This is an eye opener, near misses are actual warnings for incidents likely to happen.

I don't have a ADAS feature in my car, however in a rare case, if I feel tired/sleepy while driving I just pull over to a safe place a take a nap for 5-10 minutes maximum which works very well with me.


I hope the below accident could have been avoided if the car had the ADAS feature and kept ON.

https://Telangana MLA Dies After Car...der (ndtv.com)

[blogslogger]

Originally Posted by OpenRoads

I would choose life anyday. It's true that price would be higher but it's totally worth it

I too agree. But I would like to think we are in the blessed minority who can decide to spend a few more lakhs for the car of our choice. For someone who has to already stretch budget to get an entry level car, adding ADAS would make it truly unaffordable.

Imagine paying 7 lakhs for an S-Presso. Some safety for everyone is better than no safety for some.

[OpenRoads]

Originally Posted by blogslogger

Imagine paying 7 lakhs for an S-Presso. Some safety for everyone is better than no safety for some.

It would be a crime to mention S-presso and ADAS in the same sentence

There are many automobile companies in India who have started the trend of keeping safety features same across all varients. ADAS is new and expensive hence it's still offered in top spec only. Hopefully someday it would be part of standard safety features.

Now there are many others who do not have even six airbags, ESP, ABS many crucial safety standards features. So having ADAS is a far off dream for them.

[BlueGod]

Glad to know that you’re ok and ADAS has helped avoided a catastrophic accident. I do believe ADAS is a useful feature but prefer VAGs, Tata build quality any day over these features. ADAS can prevent you from making mistakes but only a better build quality can save lives when other drivers make mistakes.

As a Virtus owner, I am also glad that many in India prefer Hyundai and Kia over VAGs. The price remains affordable for us due to this reason. 😜

[Flasshhhh]

Originally Posted by BlueGod

Glad to know that you’re ok and ADAS has helped avoided a catastrophic accident. I do believe ADAS is a useful feature but prefer VAGs, Tata build quality any day over these features. ADAS can prevent you from making mistakes but only a better build quality can save lives when other drivers make mistakes.

As a Virtus owner, I am also glad that many in India prefer Hyundai and Kia over VAGs. The price remains affordable for us due to this reason. 😜

Whenever any mishappening occur, it is mostly due to the mistakes of both side drivers.
Then there are situations of self-mistake like this topic which is currently getting discussed. And the least probability is that you are being slammed out of nowhere solely due to other person's fault.

And in that case whether you have VAGs or Tata or in that case any other, if a truck or a bus driver slams into you or falls on you, then most probably and sadly that "build quality boasting habit" would leave the planet.

And its good to know that we played a part in letting you have your Virtus with ease. God only knows what would have happen to you without us. Feeling good to be a help.
But some people don't trade rare probability scenario of someone banging in them with day to day problems like a weak A.C. of VAGs or build inconsistencies and other niggles in Tata cars.

[the_bugil]

Originally Posted by gogo_gogo

Can one upgrade to the Power Window Touch Button for the Facelift model (Pre-2024 model)?

Can someone please confirm this?

[07CR]

Originally Posted by the_bugil

Can someone please confirm this?

I guess it's not possible. Please check with dealership. They would need to change even the motors for this and it could be costly affair.

[blogslogger]

Originally Posted by OpenRoads

It would be a crime to mention S-presso and ADAS in the same sentence

There are many automobile companies in India who have started the trend of keeping safety features same across all varients. ADAS is new and expensive hence it's still offered in top spec only. Hopefully someday it would be part of standard safety features.

Now there are many others who do not have even six airbags, ESP, ABS many crucial safety standards features. So having ADAS is a far off dream for them.

The reason for quoting S-Presso is simple. For ADAS to be compulsory, there has to be a govt mandate. Otherwise, manufacturers will stick to offering it only in the highest variants.

As you said, we are far behind. Rear defogger and wash wipe is still considered a premium 'feature' for some reason.