[blogslogger]

Originally Posted by the_bugil

Can someone please confirm this?

I did enquire. It is quite expensive to retrofit as it would involve changing the buttons in all the doors and the motors as well. SA informally told me it would be 15-20 thousand. Not worth it in my opinion.

[KaartooS]

I am glad you and your family are safe.

I am a "sleep early, wake up early" person. So on occasional late night dinners, I face the issue of feeling sleepy sometimes. Earlier I used to just splash my face with water. Now I have started keeping energy drink in the car. The moment I feel sleepy, I have it. Extremely effective.

[abhi3284]

- Anyone who has purchased a Dashcam for Seltos? Am planning to get one next month. Which are the good recommended brands? I came across DDPAI and 70mai. What would be the approximate Costing and does it involve any wire cutting which could void the Warranty, or is it plug n play and fits in the 12V Socket?

- Am looking to buy Front Row Sunshades. Anybody who has purchased KIA Official "Window Sunshade Row A" for the Front Row Windows? Are they effective and worthy for 2500 odd rupees? Or do i have to look aftermarket?

[ruskinash]

[quote=GTX+;5724048]Saved by ADAS!!


I was jolted and it didn't take long for me to realise that I had slept off. I think it was only for a very very brief period, less than half a minute I think, because I was still near Akshardham. I turned on the hazard lights and pulled over towards the side. I was in shock and totally numb. I had narrowly missed a disaster. I had fresh water with me, I washed my face thoroughly and decided to go to the breakout point just few meters ahead at the start of Yamuna bridge and have a cup of tea and think over of what just happened.

Clearly, lack of sleep had taken its toll. While I was attentive and well prepared mentally that I have to drive and won't get sleep at least for next few hours, my body failed me, even if for few seconds. Those few seconds were enough to cause irreparable damage. The only thing that saved me last night was ADAS!! If I had not turned on the lane assist features, I would have surely crashed into the median and given the speed (exactly 70 KM/Hr) my car was in, it would have been a fatal crash.

Originally Posted by Mr Anderson

ADAS is totally worth it and a life saver. If you have proper driving etiquettes then ADAS will NEVER cause any hindrance to your driving experience. It's usually only those people who complain about ADAS who cannot keep proper distance from the vehicle infront, try to do risky overtakes and in general drive roughly.

ADAS shouldn't be a replacement for poor judgment. It should aid in emergencies that are not in our control. Body/mind fatigue is in our control, and it is irresponsible to be behind the wheel in such a state. We risk our lives and others'.

[blogslogger]

Originally Posted by abhi3284

- Anyone who has purchased a Dashcam for Seltos? Am planning to get one next month. Which are the good recommended brands? I came across DDPAI and 70mai. What would be the approximate Costing and does it involve any wire cutting which could void the Warranty, or is it plug n play and fits in the 12V Socket?

- Am looking to buy Front Row Sunshades. Anybody who has purchased KIA Official "Window Sunshade Row A" for the Front Row Windows? Are they effective and worthy for 2500 odd rupees? Or do i have to look aftermarket?

Ive been using the 70mai dual channel dashcam for over 2 years and it is brilliant. I use the hardwiring kit. There is no wire cutting involved as it has a fuse tap. Warranty should not be void. However, if it is a concern, you can use the 12V socket. It is purely plug and play. There is quite an expensive option too. You dealer can sell you Kia branded dash cam for 20K.

[abhi3284]

Originally Posted by blogslogger

Ive been using the 70mai dual channel dashcam for over 2 years and it is brilliant. I use the hardwiring kit. There is no wire cutting involved as it has a fuse tap. Warranty should not be void. However, if it is a concern, you can use the 12V socket. It is purely plug and play. There is quite an expensive option too. You dealer can sell you Kia branded dash cam for 20K.

Could you pls share here or PM me the Model No and Price for which you got it and from where? I do not plan to opt for the Kia one, as i heard it is a basic one for an inflated price.

[blogslogger]

Originally Posted by abhi3284

Could you pls share here or PM me the Model No and Price for which you got it and from where? I do not plan to opt for the Kia one, as i heard it is a basic one for an inflated price.

I bought it from Amazon.

Dash Cam:
https://amzn.eu/d/0ssjkii

The hardwiring kit :
https://amzn.eu/d/8PYb35D

Make sure you use an endurance SD card as it involves a lot of writes. Something like this: https://amzn.eu/d/ddqKQjO

[gogo_gogo]

Originally Posted by abhi3284

- Anyone who has purchased a Dashcam for Seltos?

Viofo is good, You may check vendor's direct website for discounted price.

[bharathdonti]

Originally Posted by abhi3284

- Anyone who has purchased a Dashcam for Seltos? Am planning to get one next month. Which are the good recommended brands? I came across DDPAI and 70mai. What would be the approximate Costing and does it involve any wire cutting which could void the Warranty, or is it plug n play and fits in the 12V Socket?

- Am looking to buy Front Row Sunshades. Anybody who has purchased KIA Official "Window Sunshade Row A" for the Front Row Windows? Are they effective and worthy for 2500 odd rupees? Or do i have to look aftermarket?

I installed a Viofo A229 Plus camera in my car with a hardwiring kit which I bought it from the USA. My Seltos had its 10,000 km service this month without voiding the warranty.


The front sunshades work well, and I got a boot shade too.

Overall, they're effective, so you can buy them without worries.

[07CR]

Anyone here upgraded the headlights of facelift without voiding warranty? I feel the ice cube fog lamps are good and provide decent coverage and throw.

But the headlights are below average. My Sonet's headlights are way better.

Sonet light pic for reference.

[jazzy]

Originally Posted by ruskinash

ADAS shouldn't be a replacement for poor judgment. It should aid in emergencies that are not in our control. Body/mind fatigue is in our control, and it is irresponsible to be behind the wheel in such a state. We risk our lives and others'.

There is a very thin line between "being in a perfect mental state to drive" and "good enough to drive", the latter one being a euphamism for "I don't know when I'll lose control". And I don't agree that it's possible for everyone, in fact may be most of us, to judge properly when the person is in a good enough state. I have many friends who say they drive alright after 1 beer, others claim 2 glasses of beer, others 3 and so on, and they may all be right or may all be absolutely WRONG. I had one such instance when I used to own a bike when I thought I could easily drive and then all of a sudden, very nearly had an accident. I made it a point to not drink even a drop of any spirit, if I have to drive.

The problem is how do I know if I had enough sleep or my mind is not occupied with something, some issue at work or home or friends/relatives? I cannot claim that I'll have 6 hours of sleep and that will definitely keep me super attentive on the road for my 4 hour drive. All the comrades here claiming that they splash their face with water or take a quick nap and that works for them, well good luck to you! I hope all of you are right.

So I agree to your statement that "ADAS shouldn't be a replacement for poor judgment" but the OP GTX+, can see the "poor" judgement only in hindsight. If he hadn't slept off, he would have continued his life registering this as a good judgement.

To my fellow bhpians, if you can afford it, get ADAS, use wisely and wear seat belts all the time when inside a moving vehicle.

[Alphaseal6]

Little moments of Joy: 22.9 kmpl for a 18km stretch

Hello Guys !!

Its been 3 months of owning the beast and have crossed 2700 km+ on the ODO. My daily run is mostly in the peak city traffic of Noida wherein the average mileage yielded by vehicle is ~ 12-13 kmpl.

I also completed a DEL-JAIPUR trip via DME wherein the mileage dint crossed 17-18 on cruise.

Last week I had gone to Greater Noida from Noida via the expressway. While returning back to Noida from Pari Chowk, the Seltos surprised me by giving an astonishing mileage of 22.9 kmpl for a 18 km stretch with the average speed of 65-70 kmph. (moderate to light foot on the pedal)

This little stretch brought sheer joy and also excitement for the miles ahead of us in this beautiful car !!!

[GTX+]

Thank you everyone for your concern and good wishes. Looking back, there are so many things I could have done differently which may have prevented this situation. In hindsight, these are the things I learnt and without a doubt I will be following them going forward in general and during such situations.

- No work is more important that your health and safety. Unless the work itself is related to some medical emergency or health and safety of your folks. It can be easily managed, postponed etc. It is absolutely important that you take adequate rest if you have a late night drive coming up.

- DO NOT overestimate your body or underestimate the forces/ways of nature. As someone pointed out, while mentally you may feel agile, active, excited but physically your body may just not cooperate.

- Have company. Its always better to have someone with you during late night drives. My wife was willing to come, but I refused thinking it will be unnecessary hassle for her. So if you have an option, use it.

- If you have had no opportunity to rest in the day, why drive? It is advisable to hire a driver or use a taxi service. Better to pay nominal amount to dirver/taxi instead of paying huge medical bills/ car repairing / insurance.

- Drive in the middle lane. I was in the extreme right lane right next to the median. If lane assist was not activated, I wouldn't even have few seconds to take corrective action (assuming I somehow came back to senses). But if you are in the middle lane, those few extra seconds can be life saving!!

- Sing!! even if you are not into music, it may help to put on a good number and sing along. It will keep your senses active and attentive.

- If you car has ADAS, use it!!. Why pay for the costly technology and not use it? Yes sometimes it may be PITA, but its better to tolerate the pain sometimes, than be in a position to not feel the pain ever!!

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Originally Posted by Mr Anderson

ADAS is totally worth it and a life saver. If you have proper driving etiquettes then ADAS will NEVER cause any hindrance to your driving experience.

Originally Posted by abhi3284

Glad to hear you are Safe and ADAS proved its mettle. I recently did a short Highway Trip in my new Seltos and was able to experience few ADAS Features like ACC, LKA and they worked like a charm. Had deliberately kept FCA Off, but looks like it might need a rethink. Stay Safe.

Cannot agree more. ADAS has no doubt proved to be a life saver in my case.

Originally Posted by raptor_diwan

He spent a whole year in bed, went through surgeries, and more. Even now, he cannot drive or walk like before. All of this could have been prevented with ADAS, and, importantly, the car he was driving wasn't even rated a single star.

I am sorry to hear what your father had to go through. I have no doubt technology would have helped him prevent the accident.

Originally Posted by anilsurya1985

Don't sacrifice the sleep to other things in case you have to travel night time and happy to read that ADAS helped to avoid major crash. My rule of thumb is to avoid night drives at any cost and if in case I have to drive night I ensure that I got to bed early and make sure I have proper sleep for good 4-5 hours before I start journey.

Originally Posted by sandeepmohan

In a situation like this, always sleep early.
Lets says lights out at 830 or 9pm, thats a good 3 hours you get to rest. Its better than not sleeping at all.

Originally Posted by KaartooS

I am glad you and your family are safe. I am a "sleep early, wake up early" person. So on occasional late night dinners, I face the issue of feeling sleepy sometimes. Earlier I used to just splash my face with water. Now I have started keeping energy drink in the car. The moment I feel sleepy, I have it. Extremely effective.

I generally take adequate rest if I have to go on a long drive, especially if it is during odd hours. But as they say, things go wrong when you least expect them. The one time I did not rest and this happened.

Originally Posted by blogslogger

I would like to think Road Safety can be explained well by Dr. Reason's Swiss cheese model. There are multiple factors (layers) for the cause. Any accident requires the holes in the different layers of cheese to be perfectly aligned.

This is a great example and I fully resonate with it. Thanks for sharing.

Originally Posted by pseudo_coder

While ADAS definitely helps, isn't cruise control partly to blame for the driver dozing off? When you are actively engaged in driving, you will realize it as soon as you are drowsy. It impacts the driving within a second. With cruise control, this feedback is absent.

Originally Posted by ruskinash

ADAS shouldn't be a replacement for poor judgment. It should aid in emergencies that are not in our control. Body/mind fatigue is in our control, and it is irresponsible to be behind the wheel in such a state. We risk our lives and others'.

I would not completely disagree with you because the fact is that this is my first automatic car and my first with ADAS (including ACC). I have always driven manual cars earlier and have never had such a situation.

However, this is not my first late night drive in an ADAS equipped automatic car. The only difference this time was lack of proper sleep/rest. So your guess is as good as anyones.

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Once again, would like to thank everyone for your wishes and concern. I hope everyone will take some learning from this experience of mine, I surely have.

Cheers....

[Behemoth]

Originally Posted by 07CR

Anyone here upgraded the headlights of facelift without voiding warranty? I feel the ice cube fog lamps are good and provide decent coverage and throw.

But the headlights are below average. My Sonet's headlights are way better.

Sonet light pic for reference.

I haven't upgraded my headlights but have upgraded my fog lights to Raylux 6 inch light bars. They are really good and have 4x the light of the low beams. They have a low beam pattern and reach around 60m.



I had shared the details a few posts back.
Alternatively the option to upgrade the foglights with 2 inch projectors is also available now (like this) for the gtx and xline versions.





In this bracket you can fit 2 inch projectors like the Aes q2m

[shiv11bhargava]

So glad to hear you are safe. Hoping all of us can only learn from what happened!