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Old 26th February 2024, 09:17   #1816
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In this bracket you can fit 2 inch projectors like the Aes q2m
I am more interested in the projector fogs. Can you point to their Instagram channel or website please?

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I am more interested in the projector fogs. Can you point to their Instagram channel or website please?

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Hi
I have sent you a PM with the details where you can get the bracket.
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I have sent you a PM with the details where you can get the bracket.
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Could you also please share where you got the foglamps installed on your car, where to get the connectors, and if you recommend the installer?
Will be very helpful for Seltos owners in Delhi/ Gurgaon.
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Could you also please share where you got the foglamps installed on your car, where to get the connectors, and if you recommend the installer?
Will be very helpful for Seltos owners in Delhi/ Gurgaon.
Well in my case I went with 6 inch lightbar - first from Hella (flood beam), but I did not like the beam pattern at all as it was too diffused. The installer was a guy called Rajendra from "Modification studio" in Gurgaon (near Haldiram toll plaza). He charged 3k for the Hella light bar installation and he had the connectors which plugged directly into the fog light plugs.
The second time , when I got the Hella lights removed and the Raylux lights installed, I got them installed at Car Music Hub in the Gurgaon Sec-50 market opposite Good Earth centre. The same connectors as earlier were used and they charged me 1000 only.

For fitting the lights, I used my own jugaad - using Binder clips which is a perfect solution and totally reversible.
In my case, when I have to take my car for service, I will take the lights off myself and put them back on again after service as I don't want to risk my warranty.
The Raylux lights I had bought from Genome India directly and they costed me 7500 delivered to Gurgaon.
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I have sent you a PM with the details where you can get the bracket.
Thanks. I have connected with the guy he mentioned the sales guy would call back. Will check.

I also visited another shop in Pune called Bhandari Car Style. They have trifocal or Penta focal (that's what I called it, there are 4 LED projectors for low beam and one large LED projector for high beam).
They would be installing it as shown in the attached pic. My question is since the ADAS radar is close by, would it hinder any of its functions?
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Thanks. I have connected with the guy he mentioned the sales guy would call back. Will check.

I also visited another shop in Pune called Bhandari Car Style. They have trifocal or Penta focal (that's what I called it, there are 4 LED projectors for low beam and one large LED projector for high beam).
They would be installing it as shown in the attached pic. My question is since the ADAS radar is close by, would it hinder any of its functions?
These are the Aozoom ones that he is showing. Instead of these I recommend the Raylux ones that I have used - they are sleeker and direct fit. (To fit them I can share some images on how I fit them using Binder clips) other wise they guys will drill holes in your chassis or weld bolts which is bad.
Also Do not get a High beam tap done as that is a sure shot way to void your warranty!

If you want really good light, I would recommend that you go with the Fog light brackets and install Aes q2M projectors in them (wire the laser permanent on with low beam and dont connect high beam shutter). That will give you best results.
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Well in my case I went with 6 inch lightbar - first from Hella (flood beam), but I did not like the beam pattern at all as it was too diffused. The installer was a guy called Rajendra from "Modification studio" in Gurgaon (near Haldiram toll plaza). He charged 3k for the Hella light bar installation and he had the connectors which plugged directly into the fog light plugs.
The second time , when I got the Hella lights removed and the Raylux lights installed, I got them installed at Car Music Hub in the Gurgaon Sec-50 market opposite Good Earth centre. The same connectors as earlier were used and they charged me 1000 only.

For fitting the lights, I used my own jugaad - using Binder clips which is a perfect solution and totally reversible.
In my case, when I have to take my car for service, I will take the lights off myself and put them back on again after service as I don't want to risk my warranty.
The Raylux lights I had bought from Genome India directly and they costed me 7500 delivered to Gurgaon.
Thanks a lot. I had seen a video on Youtube while researching and I think I found your car haha >
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Instead of these I recommend the Raylux ones that I have used - they are sleeker and direct fit. (To fit them I can share some images on how I fit them using Binder clips) other wise they guys will drill holes in your chassis or weld bolts which is bad.
I would really appreciate if you could share images of the fitment and also the throw of the light please. Thanks
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I would really appreciate if you could share images of the fitment and also the throw of the light please. Thanks
Sharing the pic (thanks to you for helping edit it)

2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review-img20240226wa0005.jpg

Also sharing a hand drawing of how I fixed them using Binder clips (32mm size, cost 12 Rupees per clip!)
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Is the rigidness to the extent of avoiding this car completely (as I'm yet to take the plunge)
I had actually walked in to buy a top end DCT Carens, primarily due to the perceived ride quality difference between both (Prefacelift Seltos was criticized for very stiff ride, and the Carens has been praised for its soft ride). We also drove the Seltos and came away mighty impressed with the ride quality. It's 90% as good as the Carens in slow speeds, but being much more better at higher speeds.

With the dark interiors the feeling of space could be lower, but the space in rear is actually great considering me(5'10) and my dad (6 Ft) can comfortably seat behind one another with enough room to spare for rear occupant.

Kia Service has been exemplary with my Sonet (owning for nearly 3 years now). Hence we went with the Seltos.

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If you want really good light, I would recommend that you go with the Fog light brackets and install Aes q2M projectors in them (wire the laser permanent on with low beam and dont connect high beam shutter). That will give you best results.
Thanks for the heads up on Azoom lights. Not going with them.
I spoke with the number you provided. He's mentioned he can replace Fogs with projectors, and if required he will "Puncture the wire" and that will enable switching high and low beams in conjunction with the main lamps. If "Puncturing" is not performed it's as good as plug and play as per him.

In either case he is 100% sure there won't be any complications in warranty, and he would be charging the same in either case. Will be visiting the workshop on Saturday. Will keep the forum updated.
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

Hello BHPians,

I have a question related to couple of ADAS features in Seltos.

1. Has anyone used "Blind Spot Safety" option during peak traffic? How does car behave when this option is enabled?
I took delivery of my car last week and while taking car out of dealership premises, car braked abruptly while merging on the main road which had decent traffic flow. There after I have kept this feature off with fear of sudden breaking in peak traffic.
I am curious to know observations from others.

2. Another thing is about "Forward Collision Warning". With this feature on, does vehicle only provides visual / audio alerts or applies sudden breaking as well?
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Hello BHPians,

I have a question related to couple of ADAS features in Seltos.
1. Blind spot safety is really critical as it helps avoiding bumping into vehicles or two wheelers, or even cycles, which at many times, suddenly appear from the blind spot area and try to overtake you from either left or right hand side. My suggestion is to keep this on and you will get used to as to when and for how much distance does the vehicle applies breaks especially when you are merging in right lane.

2. Forward collision warning will also apply breaks if it finds that there will be an imminent collision. Please read the user manual again..
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1. Has anyone used "Blind Spot Safety" option during peak traffic? How does car behave when this option is enabled?
The car has a pretty long range for detecting other vehicles in the blind spot, especially when merging to a main road. It's not dangerous as you'd think. In fact, pretty useful as I was saved couple of times by it. Please keep it on, always.

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2. Another thing is about "Forward Collision Warning". With this feature on, does vehicle only provides visual / audio alerts or applies sudden breaking as well?
Both. The sudden braking depends on the speed. Say, you are in slow-moving traffic. Here chances are that car will apply sudden brakes if you get too close or do not slow down enough as per ADAS's expectation. This can come as surprise both for you and other drivers behind you who may end up rear ending you.

At high speeds, car will give you audio/visual alerts in advance, giving you enough time to react. Again, if you do not hit brakes or if the deceleration is slower than ADAS's expectation, car will hit brakes.

On Saturday night, I was returning home after meeting few friends. It was a dark road with no streetlights. All of sudden, the FCA alerts kicked in and I hit the brakes to reduce the speed, despite not knowing what caused it. As the car moved a little ahead I saw an auto rickshaw that has slowed down for a speed-breaker. That auto was outside the range of my low-beam headlights and had non-functional brake light. Hence, I didn't realise it's presence. I'm not saying that ADAS saved me from an accident, but it surely alerted me well in advance of the unperceived obstacle.

Personally, I feel Hyundai/Kia ADAS are very well tuned for Indian conditions.

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1. Blind spot safety is really critical as it helps avoiding bumping into vehicles or two wheelers, or even cycles, which at many times, suddenly appear from the blind spot area and try to overtake you from either left or right hand side. My suggestion is to keep this on and you will get used to as to when and for how much distance does the vehicle applies breaks especially when you are merging in right lane.

2. Forward collision warning will also apply breaks if it finds that there will be an imminent collision. Please read the user manual again..
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The car has a pretty long range for detecting other vehicles in the blind spot, especially when merging to a main road. It's not dangerous as you'd think. In fact, pretty useful as I was saved couple of times by it. Please keep it on, always.



Both. The sudden braking depends on the speed. Say, you are in slow-moving traffic. Here chances are that car will apply sudden brakes if you get too close or do not slow down enough as per ADAS's expectation. This can come as surprise both for you and other drivers behind you who may end up rear ending you.

At high speeds, car will give you audio/visual alerts in advance, giving you enough time to react. Again, if you do not hit brakes or if the deceleration is slower than ADAS's expectation, car will hit brakes.
Thank you both of you for inputs. I know how useful FCW and Blind Spot Monitoring are. I had extensively used these in my Nissan Rogue in US.

What worried me was Automatic breaking in both these should not cause anyone to rear end me in Indian Driving condition.

Thanks for input though.
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What worried me was Automatic breaking in both these should not cause anyone to rear end me in Indian Driving condition.
ADAS won't cause it, the drivers closely tailgating you might.
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