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Old 2nd June 2024, 00:02   #2356
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Old 3rd June 2024, 09:06   #2357
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Need some inputs from Seltos Diesel Automatic owners.

I am considering moving from 2017 Creta Diesel Manual to Seltos Diesel Automatic. I test drove the latest Seltos Diesel Automatic and felt it was little lethargic.
You are comparing with a BS4 creta 1.6 diesel. Naturally the BS 6.2 1.5 diesel in seltos will feel slightly dull considering it is down on power and torque. The BS6 diesels have also been dull down to curb the emissions.

One of the reasons I didn't go for a Seltos facelift diesel since I was upgrading from a BS4 Diesel ecosport. Instead went with 1.5 turbo petrol dct. Performance is unmatched up till the 50 L rupee mark !
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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I test drove the latest Seltos Diesel Automatic and felt it was little lethargic.
I concur. The BS6.2 1.5 L D AT is nothing to write home about , especially for the Creta and Seltos. I too had a similar experience with the Seltos D AT.

This engine + gearbox combo is not best suited in a lighter and smaller car like the Sonet.

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Test drive was on normal mode. Should I have done the test drive on Sport mode? Was it dull because it is a test vehicle? Somehow test drive did not meet my expectations.
Nope. The SPORT mode doesn't quite add any value here. One can barely feel any difference between the two.
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Old 4th June 2024, 11:54   #2359
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Viofo Dashcam Adapter

Hello BHPians,

Need some help here. Quite a few people from this group has purchased and fitted Viofo Dashcam.

Yesterday I tried to insert the adapter in cigarette port lighter and it has stuck royally.
Hence I either need to open by pulling with pliers in Service Center or need a strongman to pull out.

Also this is not working and hence Vijay from Viofo has already shipped another one.

So is it normal that the adapter is very tight. This is not with my existing Viofo T130 in my Honda City.

The other challenge is the space in Seltos GTX+ is very very limited with all 3 ports being used.

So what are the options currently?
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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I concur. The BS6.2 1.5 L D AT is nothing to write home about , especially for the Creta and Seltos. I too had a similar experience with the Seltos D AT.

This engine + gearbox combo is not best suited in a lighter and smaller car like the Sonet.
I agree. Hyundai should have put a higher tune onto the 1.5D. Tuner shops are achieving an easy 25% gain with just a stage 1 tune flash. The 1.5D feels out of place in the top spec trims of Creta/Seltos against the equally torque-y and more powerful 1.5 T-GDi. The outdated 6-speed AT doesn't help either.
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Re: Viofo Dashcam Adapter

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Hello BHPians,

Need some help here. Quite a few people from this group has purchased and fitted Viofo Dashcam.

Yesterday I tried to insert the adapter in cigarette port lighter and it has stuck royally.
Hence I either need to open by pulling with pliers in Service Center or need a strongman to pull out.

Also this is not working and hence Vijay from Viofo has already shipped another one.

So is it normal that the adapter is very tight. This is not with my existing Viofo T130 in my Honda City.

The other challenge is the space in Seltos GTX+ is very very limited with all 3 ports being used.

So what are the options currently?
Yes, the Charging Adaptor provided by Viofo fits very tight in the 12V Socket in Seltos. In my case, my Viofo Dash was not Powering On. Turns out the Adaptor was not inserted fully. I had to apply more strength and push the Adapter more inside the 12V Socket for the Dashcam to Power On. Did not try removing the Adapter post that to check if it comes out easily or no.

Is your Viofo Dash Powering On? If not, try pushing it In more, if you are comfortable doing it.

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Re: Finally...1000 Kms completed and few Mods & Upgrades done.

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. * Got the Brake Calipers painted to bright Yellow. This was a tricky choice to make with options of green lime, chrome, gold and yellow that go with the Green color. Did not consider the standard Red Color Calipers to avoid it looking like a Christmas tree. Glanced through few pictures on the Web of few Green Aston Martins with Yellow colored Calipers and finally decided to go with the Yellow.
Yellow-coloured callipers look great on Gravity Grey car. Where did you get them painted in Pune?
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Re: Finally...1000 Kms completed and few Mods & Upgrades done.

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Yellow-coloured callipers look great on Gravity Grey car. Where did you get them painted in Pune?
Hey Thanks. Got it done at Carbon & Chrome Studio in Viman Nagar. And its Pewter Olive Shade.
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>>> How do you do this? I am always conflicted since my phone is connected for Android Auto (Maps) and my better half wants music to be played of her choice, can you share how this can be done please.
Hey! sorry for not responding for so long. Life got in the way. For me, it was pretty straightforward. If one phone is connected via android auto, the other can be connected by BT, and you can use the mode toggle switch on the steering to cycle through audio sources. The MID flashes which source is selected (with the name of the device). Once selected, you can play music through the phone connected via BT.

I use the 120W USB-A slot to connect to android auto, and not the micro-USB one.
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Hi,

I purchased the side step from the KIA itself. More from a aesthetic looks than practical use. It does not interfere with ingress / egress as it's very narrow (photo for representation). The colour they have really goes well with the Xline that I have.

On the ground clearance front, it's expected to reduce it a little bit have not faced any issues so far on all sizes of bumps my city threw at me.

The bonus is that any side impact by two wheeler / three wheeler, the impact will be the side step first as the front wheel is what will touch your sides first. Depending on the speed of impact the side panels come into the picture. So far I have been able to save my side panels on couple of occasions.

Thank you.

Looking nice with the side-steps. How much did it cost if you don't mind sharing? Also, I see you've got the bumper edge protectors. My dealer is advising against them, saying that they fall off in some time. How has your experience so far with them?
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Looking nice with the side-steps. How much did it cost if you don't mind sharing? Also, I see you've got the bumper edge protectors. My dealer is advising against them, saying that they fall off in some time. How has your experience so far with them?
Thank you for your compliments. I purchased the side step as part of original accessories from the dealer itself (ASB KIA Gurgaon). It cost me around 26k. The bumper edge protector is an after thought and I don't think it will actually protect the edges. However it has not fallen off in the past 4 months of my daily use in the city. I park in the shade, I think that also impacts the adhesive.
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Question for IVT "Sports mode"


Would anyone be able to clarify difference in using the round selector for sports mode vs. moving the stick towards the right in to +/-?

These are my observations but I could be wrong.

1. Round selector: Normal > Sports
Steering becomes tighter but gearbox remains in "D" as shown on instrument cluster. No real improvement in performance except steering in my opinion. If you use the paddles, it enters manual mode

2. Moving gear to the right: D > +/- (I think this makes the car move much faster)
No change in steering but gearbox enters "S" mode as shown on instrument cluster. Massive change in acceleration but no change in steering. Similarly, if you use the paddles, it enters manual mode
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Yes that is exactly the same behaviour even in my Diesel TC AT.
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Keep a check on the RPM as well. I believe in S mode the RPM would stay higher, thereby giving slightly better acceleration.
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Chiming in to say the same for my HTX IVT as well. Using the dial selector, changes the steering weight, and feels like the gearbox runs through predetermined ratios only. Switching in to S via the gear selector changes the character entirely. The steering does weigh up, but has a different character, and feels more responsive, the shifts feel quicker and the RPMs also hold much longer. Feels like a different car altogether.

The selector dial feels like a half step between normal and sport, while the gear selector feels like full sport mode.
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Chiming in to say the same for my HTX IVT as well. Using the dial selector, changes the steering weight, and feels like the gearbox runs through predetermined ratios only. Switching in to S via the gear selector changes the character entirely. The steering does weigh up, but has a different character, and feels more responsive, the shifts feel quicker and the RPMs also hold much longer. Feels like a different car altogether.

The selector dial feels like a half step between normal and sport, while the gear selector feels like full sport mode.
I forgot about that dial thing till I read this post again.
I use the gearbox S mode regularly, also feels more intuitive/faster to shift the stick to the right then look down and fiddle with that knob thing.
The surge in S mode is really something compared to the regular D mode.

Does anyone else feel the Seltos IVT shakes a wee bit too much when shifting through P/R/N/D? It is like this in a friend's car bought a weeks after mine as well. (In fact, his is worse). Haven't seen this level of shake/ jerk in other cars except maybe Crysta/ Fortuner diesel.
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Question for IVT "Sports mode"


Would anyone be able to clarify difference in using the round selector for sports mode vs. moving the stick towards the right in to +/-?
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Yes that is exactly the same behaviour even in my Diesel TC AT.
Both 1 and 2 scenarios are what you have experienced. But additionally in 1 the accelerator pedal responds differently and also the brake assist is more aggressive.
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Keep a check on the RPM as well. I believe in S mode the RPM would stay higher, thereby giving slightly better acceleration.
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Chiming in to say the same for my HTX IVT as well. Using the dial selector, changes the steering weight, and feels like the gearbox runs through predetermined ratios only. Switching in to S via the gear selector changes the character entirely. The steering does weigh up, but has a different character, and feels more responsive, the shifts feel quicker and the RPMs also hold much longer. Feels like a different car altogether.
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I forgot about that dial thing till I read this post again.
I use the gearbox S mode regularly, also feels more intuitive/faster to shift the stick to the right then look down and fiddle with that knob thing.
The surge in S mode is really something compared to the regular D mode.
Based on a discussion with a senior technician from Kia, Seltos 1.5D (pre-facelift) has a lower power tune mapped to the Eco mode with restricted throttle response but normal steering weight.

Normal mode gives normal throttle response and normal state of tune with the shifts points made to be as early as possible.

Sports makes the throttle very sharp, pulls the engine to almost 3-3.5k rpms in lower gears even on half-throttle. The steering arm numbing-ly tight.

As far as putting TC into S mode, it is a separate shift-logic mapped to the TCU only. It does not affect ecu maps, throttle inputs or steering feel. It is programmed to prolong upshifts with par-throttle from just below 2k rpm to 2.5k rpm; on higher throttle inputs it will pull till 3-3.5k rpm happily in each gear.

An interesting thing here is the interaction of the S mode of the TCU with the different drivetrain modes. If the drivetrain is in Eco mode but the Transmission is put into S mode, the Eco mode gets overridden and the drivetrain goes into Normal mode. When transmission is set back to Drive, the drivetrain goes back into Eco mode. This makes sense if Eco mode has a lower state of tune mapped to it.

If the drivetrain in is in Normal, the S mode of the transmission basically acts as a change in TCU tune. No other changes.

If the drivetrain is in Sports, the S mode of the transmission affects the shift points. It makes the upshifts happen much sooner in the lower gears instead of the engine pulling almost to redline in the 1st and 2nd gear which is unnecessary as there is barely any power in the top end of this engine and there is a lot of rev-hang when up-shifting after pulling till redline.
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

Interesting thread, but when I tried to upgrade my Jeep Compass's reverse light with matching specification LED , lights were working, but had a warning in the instrument cluster. So had to swap back to original bulbs.
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