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Old 7th October 2024, 17:39   #2911
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Noob question 1: My experience has been with NA cars. The only turbo cars I have had an experience with is the first generation scorpio and the first gen Nissan Xtrail in the family when I was growing up. Drove them a bit when I grew up before they were sold off, and the turbo practice I remember is one minute idle at startup & before switching off the engine after a drive. For modern turbos does that still hold true? Searched for threads on team bhp but still confused. What are the turbo owners here practising?

Noob question 2: TLDR version of using the DCT - From what I read here, auto hold with/without ISG and for long stops in traffic, it is better to shift to neutral. Right? If I come to a slow stop and autohold engages in D mode, will it disengage when I depress the brake pedal again to shift it to N?

From what I know, shifting to Park is also ok, but incase some rear ends in P, then the damage to the transmission could be bigger than shifting to neutral. (already made a habit to shift my TC ecosport to neutral, pull the hand brake or keep the brake pedal depressed based on the traffic, feels second nature to me now).
What I follow diligently is idling at the first startup of the car in a day, at the beginning the RPM's are around 1500's and it takes around 40 odd secs to come down to 700 rpm. So I drive only when rpm settles at around 700 rpm. Also have observed on subsequent startups in the day the RPM is always around 700 and not around 1500 as during the first start of a day. For stopping I don't follow any idling as many times the car gets stopped due to ISG or we manually stop at longer signals, so I don't believe in idling for 1 minute for stopping the vehicle.

For your 2nd query I would say that I always keep ISG and AutoHold ON, so whenever stopping at traffic, my seltos shuts down due
to ISG and AutoHold gets activated moment I press the brake for a couple of secs for stopping. Also additionally I switch off the AC so that my car doesn't start if the traffic signal duration is longer to maintain cabin AC temperature. I switch to N from D mode only if my car engine starts back and I have to wait for more than 10 secs.
No Autohold won't disengage if you press brake to shift to N from D, Autohold only disengages if accelerator is pressed in D mode.
Additionally I have observed that if I have shifted to N in traffic signal then also sometimes engine shuts down due to ISG and it automatically restart when shifting to D or depressing brake or accelerator.

Yes you are right if you are in P mode and there is a impact or forced motion of your car from backside or forward then it might damage transmission but if Autohold is engaged in N, then only wheels are locked and transmission is free so any impact should not affect the transmission directly.
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Old 7th October 2024, 18:52   #2912
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Got our Black X-line D AT delivered!
Congratulations Col on your black beauty. Black colour looks fabulous and with sage green interiors, it will be awesome.

It is more than an year for me driving this fabulous car and I am sure you would love it too. Post ECU update, I am driving in Eco mode in city and find it very convenient to drive in the traffic.

Do share your experience after some time, especially driving in the hills.
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Old 7th October 2024, 19:36   #2913
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Congratulations Col on your black beauty. Black colour looks fabulous and with sage green interiors, it will be awesome.

It is more than an year for me driving this fabulous car and I am sure you would love it too. Post ECU update, I am driving in Eco mode in city and find it very convenient to drive in the traffic.

Do share your experience after some time, especially driving in the hills.
Thank you! Yes, I will.

Do you also drive a D AT?
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Got our Black X-line D AT delivered!


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Congratulations on your car Col. Mehta! Wishing you many miles on this beautiful steed.
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Old 7th October 2024, 19:56   #2915
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What I follow diligently is idling at the first startup of the car in a day, at the beginning the RPM's are around 1500's and it takes around 40 odd secs to come down to 700 rpm. So I drive only when rpm settles at around 700 rpm. Also have observed on subsequent startups in the day the RPM is always around 700 and not around 1500 as during the first start of a day. For stopping I don't follow any idling as many times the car gets stopped due to ISG or we manually stop at longer signals, so I don't believe in idling for 1 minute for stopping the vehicle.

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Thanks for your detailed reply, helps quite a bit. Understood that when the ISG is on, no need to idle because of the turbo because it will spoil the very reason for ISG

What I meant is, older turbos had mandatory one min idle when starting the car in the morning, say drive to work and idling for another minute before shutting it down after reaching the destination. Same process to repeat when starting in the evening to go back home/starting the car again after a few hours. Do modern turbos still require that one min idle time? Whatever I have researched, I am still not clear if modern turbos need that idle time.

Will try it with and without the ISG as personally I do not like the start/stop function. But will give it a shot.
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Old 7th October 2024, 20:01   #2916
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Congratulations on your car Col. Mehta! Wishing you many miles on this beautiful steed.
Thank you! I hope to see yours in the coming days as well .

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Thanks for your detailed reply, helps quite a bit. Understood that when the ISG is on, no need to idle because of the turbo because it will spoil the very reason for ISG

What I meant is, older turbos had mandatory one min idle when starting the car in the morning, say drive to work and idling for another minute before shutting it down after reaching the destination. Same process to repeat when starting in the evening to go back home/starting the car again after a few hours. Do modern turbos still require that one min idle time? Whatever I have researched, I am still not clear if modern turbos need that idle time.

Will try it with and without the ISG as personally I do not like the start/stop function. But will give it a shot.

To answer your question, the modern petrol 1.5L engine of seltos needs to be idled for the first start of the day as the the RPM's hover between 1300 to 1400 and it takes around 45 secs to settle down to 700, which should be the engine RPM at idle. I engaged D and switch on Aircon only after RPM stabilises at 700.
Also you will observe that the RPM when you start your engine anytime after your first start on a day, will be always around 700 so you won't need to idle for say a minute for subsequent starts. Only for starts after longer periods or next day when engine RPM on start is more than 1000 then you should wait until idle RPM drops to 700.
Hope I am able to provide you a satisfactory explanation to your query.
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Old 7th October 2024, 21:23   #2918
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Thank you! Yes, I will.

Do you also drive a D AT?
No Col. Being in Delhi, diesel is a no no. Not worth junking a car in 10 years. So it was ruled out. And I wanted to continue with an automatic hence GTX+DCT was the only answer. I have learnt to use Seltos DCT (was using DSG earlier) and there are smooth gear changes. And 1.5 turbo really pushes you back in the seat, if you like.
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No Col. Being in Delhi, diesel is a no no. Not worth junking a car in 10 years. So it was ruled out. And I wanted to continue with an automatic hence GTX+DCT was the only answer. I have learnt to use Seltos DCT (was using DSG earlier) and there are smooth gear changes. And 1.5 turbo really pushes you back in the seat, if you like.
Great to hear that you are enjoying your car. Looking forward to reading more updates from you .
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Got our Black X-line D AT delivered!

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Very thrilled to share the first few pictures. The drive so far has been enjoyable. Will share more along with overall experience later.

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The stunning, elegant and exquisite sage green interior theme .

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The car with hills in the background looks even more beautiful.

Been driving my X-line Diesel 6AT for over a year now and I have only praises for it. Went through a lot of posts that warned about DPF issues but I have absolutely no complaints. Nothing has ever come up and everything is buttery smooth. The electronics work flawlessly. The car glides as it should and I get a mixed city/highway milage of 15kmpl. The service center goes out of its way for customer satisfaction. It's totally worth it. Happy miles ahead.
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The car with hills in the background looks even more beautiful.

Been driving my X-line Diesel 6AT for over a year now and I have only praises for it. Went through a lot of posts that warned about DPF issues but I have absolutely no complaints. Nothing has ever come up and everything is buttery smooth. The electronics work flawlessly. The car glides as it should and I get a mixed city/highway milage of 15kmpl. The service center goes out of its way for customer satisfaction. It's totally worth it. Happy miles ahead.
Thank you! Yes, the car seems like a fantastic package. Yours inputs on D AT, along with insights from a few more amazing members, have been very helpful .

During our mountain drives, the engine transmission performed flawlessly with full load on some of the steepest climbs. The low end torque of the diesel proved its worth with flying colors. Will share more once we've had more time with the car.
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Thank you! Yes, the car seems like a fantastic package. Yours inputs on D AT, along with insights from a few more amazing members, have been very helpful .

During our mountain drives, the engine transmission performed flawlessly with full load on some of the steepest climbs. The low end torque of the diesel proved its worth with flying colors. Will share more once we've had more time with the car.
Congrats on your new Seltos!
My Xline D At is also doing well. I have covered around 17k kms in 10 months so far and am happy with the car. The mileage I have gotten so far is 17 kmpl in my mixed use and this is a big factor for me as I commute 100kms everyday from Gurgaon to Noida and back.

Enjoy your drive!
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Congrats on your new Seltos!
My Xline D At is also doing well. I have covered around 17k kms in 10 months so far and am happy with the car. The mileage I have gotten so far is 17 kmpl in my mixed use and this is a big factor for me as I commute 100kms everyday from Gurgaon to Noida and back.

Enjoy your drive!
Thank you! Have closely followed your posts on the D AT combo which were both informative and helpful .
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Just for Info Guys

Few days ago have raised warranty claim from Service centre for headlights DRL turning yellow. Today received a call from SC that the claim is approved and KIA will be sending a new set headlights under warranty.
Those who are facing this DRL yellowish issue should approach their Service Centre and get their headlights replaced under warranty.

Many thanks to KIA for such a transparent and hassle free process for warranty claim, I hope other car manufacturers should take a note & also follow such process for their customers.
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Old 10th October 2024, 18:31   #2925
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Yesterday, I've got the ECU update done and the complete process was done in about 30 mins. While returning home, I had a weird experience concerning the forward collision avoidance function of the ADAS. I was driving at around 20 kmph and near a pot hole, the car sounded the braking alarm and within a second it slammed the brakes. I was lucky that there was no one behind me and was taken aback at this behavior because there was no one in the vicinity to trigger that alarm and brake so harshly when I was least expecting it to. I've been running the car with the complete ADAS suite switched on since few months and was very well versed with the trigger points of the alarm and the braking, but this came out of nowhere. And I am pretty sure that ADAS doesn't recognize pot holes

Has anyone faced such an unexpected behavior of ADAS after the ECU update?
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