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Old 13th December 2024, 11:07   #3106
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I am getting the delivery next week and initially thought of not getting anything done but now looking at this I might go for ceramic coating. I am a complete noob at this so I am not sure about the maintenance. The building security guy washes/wipes my current car daily. So is that a complete NO after the ceramic coating to maintain the shine? Can I just ask him to dust it and not use any damp cloth?
I have the same as I got my Seltos HTX a couple of days back and am thinking of ceramic coating as a way to protect my paint.
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I came across a TeamBHPian Anish who goes by the name of AJ56 here and is owner of the 5C car care in Gurgaon. I must say his posts were very informative and his work speaks volumes about his passion in detailing.
I too got ceramic coating done on my car from 5C Car Care. Excellent job by Anish. For initial few times, I got my car washed from him only. However, I couldn't keep up with his expectations on contactless wash.

Due to long travel time and addition of both office and personal work over the weekends, I started washing car myself as travelling to his shop from my place would easily mean half a day (literally) is gone! Subsequently, it came down to dusting (Jopasu duster) due to lack of time and space constraint around my apartment.

I can easily notice how detrimental the dust is to the car. Unfortunately, I live in an area where metro construction work is going on. Even a washed car would soon have layers of dust in a couple of hours! Leave it like that and a black car turns brown in 3 days!


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I have the same as I got my Seltos HTX a couple of days back and am thinking of ceramic coating as a way to protect my paint.
Dry dusting is a complete No. It will have a detrimental effect on the coating. A proper technique always involves washing with water (pressure washer or a garden hose) to remove the dust, then applying shampoo or other solutions that creates a layer between the microfiber cloth and the car, and finally drying it off with a compressed air. However, last step is not always possible. So, most of us end up wiping-off the water with cloths.

Even the security guard won't wash the car properly as they will use only one or two cloths to clean multiple cars.
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Old 13th December 2024, 13:11   #3108
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I have the same as I got my Seltos HTX a couple of days back and am thinking of ceramic coating as a way to protect my paint.
Its a vast topic, not possible to give a short answer. Please search this forum for dedicated thread and spend some time to go through.
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Dry dusting is a complete No.
Thanks. Got it.
What if the cleaning is done by a wet cloth? I will provide a separate cloth for my car and the security guard will use it only for my car.
The reason is I won't be able to give anytime to clean the car at this moment. Atleast for the foreseeable future.

Sorry it's a silly question but I am a complete noob at this.
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Thanks. Got it.
What if the cleaning is done by a wet cloth? I will provide a separate cloth for my car and the security guard will use it only for my car.
Well, I’m no expert on this topic. But my guess would be that even a wet cloth wouldn’t suffice.

Do you see what is common between all the cars that are cleaned daily by security guards or a cleaner? - swirls

You’ll need multiple cloths as 1 or 2 cloths will easily get soiled and leave scratches on the body.

Reach out to a professional detailer to get your queries answered properly and correctly.
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Wanted to provide an update after going the hassle and following both your advises. First, I'd like to thank you for the fuse taps idea; since I lost the initial ones that I had when bought the hardwire kit along with the dashcam, but went ahead and contact Vijay from VIOFO India who was humble enough to not charge me for the fuse taps and only asked me to pay the courier charges (Huge kudos to him), and as suggested, I approached a different technician to get this sorted out. Everything done and sorted? At least that's what I thought off initially, but alas, no! The dimming feature was still cocking up with the camera connected, and with it disconnected the soul inside the IRVM was alive again. I was about to crawl my helpless bum back to my fellow BHPians for more assistance, however, this time I tried to go through some of VIOFO threads and VOILA! I found a probable solution; the Infrared LED for the interior cam somehow acts as an obstruction for the IRVM's back sensor making it believe that its still daylight which in return makes it stops from functioning its purpose (Which the technicians at KIA ASS stated the root cause to be distribution of source being the main culprit). A month long run, help from you two and some research has finally resolved my issue, and I test drove for more than 3 hours to verify that indeed the issue is now resolved. In case, if anyone in future comes across a similar issue, this might come in handy, especially for one's who have 3-way DashCams.

Thank you again for all your help and for saving me from future hazards.
I would still suggest you to forget about hardwiring the dashcam & just go with powering up the dashcam from the cigarette lighter in the console rather than tapping into the fuses. The advantages of hardwiring the dashcam are not worth the risks. A skilled technician can route the cables inconspicuously to the console and to the charger port & you will hardly notice it.

You have made a substantial investment by purchasing this car. Tomorrow, God forbid, something happens with the electrical system & you have to avail the warranty, you are giving the manufacturer a ready-made answer on a silver platter to deny your warranty claim.

Brother, it is not worth it to hardwire the dashcam if you ask me.

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The building security guy washes/wipes my current car daily. So is that a complete NO after the ceramic coating to maintain the shine? Can I just ask him to dust it and not use any damp cloth?
My 2 cents will be if you plan to let your building guy clean it then you're better off without ceramic or PPF. Detailing your car once a year will work out better in your case plus use of sealants and wax once a month. If you seek more knowledge about all this then as other users have already suggested please go through our forum on various threads about coatings, detailing and safe washing techniques.

Touching/wiping your paint without proper lubrication is a sure shot recipe for swirl marks and those small particles are abrasive enough to damage the clear coat of your car.



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Subsequently, it came down to dusting (Jopasu duster) due to lack of time and space constraint around my apartment.

A proper technique always involves washing with water (pressure washer or a garden hose) to remove the dust, then applying shampoo or other solutions that creates a layer between the microfiber cloth and the car, and finally drying it off with a compressed air. However, last step is not always possible. So, most of us end up wiping-off the water with cloths.

I can understand it's a tedious process, how's wiping with Jopasu duster working out for you? Are the swirls back?

Nicely explained about proper washing technique, for compressed air leaf blower will work just fine and in case that's not possible rather then wiping off the water I'll suggest using microfibre towels (large ones) 600 gsm and above to just dab on the surface rather than wiping off. It'll lower the chances of inflicting swirl marks.

P.S- I'm no expert in this so take all my advices with a pinch of salt and contact a professional for better advice or just search the forum about specific thread.

Note- Let's not take the thread off topic, these topics had already been extensively discussed on this forum. My only purpose of sharing this info in this thread was to put light on wrong washing techniques used by dealerships. So much swirl marks, scratches in a brand new car is just not acceptable but sadly it's a reality with all brand/dealerships across the nation.
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I can understand it's a tedious process, how's wiping with Jopasu duster working out for you? Are the swirls back?
Of course the swirls are there. But as I said, I live in a very dusty area. Hence, the scratches are unavoidable.

But the swirl marks on my car are far less than other cars in my apartment which are cleaned daily by the security guard (those are relatively new cars).

More than the swirl marks, I have seen a drop in hydrophobic effect of the ceramic coating.
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Quick Question for Diesel Seltos Owners -

In your experience, Is Seltos Diesel BS6 Phase 2 engine as smooth as the Kia/Hyundai's BS4? Going by the book, it is ! But I am interested in knowing your experience.

The reason I ask - I owned a Fluidic Hyundai Verna 1.6 BS4 Diesel version for good 10+ years with 70k kms on ODO and Seltos D BS6 Phase 2 for almost an year now with 13k kms on ODO. And, I feel Verna's engine was lot more performant (not at question here) and lot smoother compared to Seltos D. Did anyone else notice this in comparison to previous BS4/3 cars?
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Quick Question for Diesel Seltos Owners -

In your experience, Is Seltos Diesel BS6 Phase 2 engine as smooth as the Kia/Hyundai's BS4? Going by the book, it is ! But I am interested in knowing your experience.

The reason I ask - I owned a Fluidic Hyundai Verna 1.6 BS4 Diesel version for good 10+ years with 70k kms on ODO and Seltos D BS6 Phase 2 for almost an year now with 13k kms on ODO. And, I feel Verna's engine was lot more performant (not at question here) and lot smoother compared to Seltos D. Did anyone else notice this in comparison to previous BS4/3 cars?
Having owned a BS4 Creta 1.6 D AT for over 9 years, and now driving the BS6 ph2 Seltos 1.5 D AT (close to 5k kms now), I can confirm that the previous gen felt more responsive and powerful. While the new gen has great drivability and power, it lacks that outright performance of its predecessor. That said, I feel the new gen is more refined and smoother and the NVH levels are definitely better contained.
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Hi All, i am new to Team BHP and hence a noob in many ways regarding Cars, I hv booked Seltos Gravity IVT and all the dealers in Pune are saying that Gravity edition is not in stock as it was recently launched and not much in demand. They are also saying there are chances that this edition may get discontinued and not be available in 2025 and they are pushing me to go for GTline or HTX. But i have following requirements (musts) due to which i chose Gravity,
1) Ventilated Seats
2) IVT

HTX doesnt have ventilated seats, while GTX doesn't suit my driving style and i found it unsuitable for city's bump to bump traffic and 18 inches wheel's suspension is not good. Plus i am not bothered about360 camera or ADAS, i can live without them.

Since i am sticking to gravity they are not providing any discounts and also saying since the stock is not there the new stock will come with Jan manufacturing and will have revised price.

I have followed this thread and not found much info for gravity, so if anyone has a gravity edition i wud love to connect and know more about their experience.
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Hi All, i am new to Team BHP and hence a noob in many ways regarding Cars, I hv booked Seltos Gravity IVT and all the dealers in Pune are saying that Gravity edition is not in stock as it was recently launched and not much in demand. They are also saying there are chances that this edition may get discontinued and not be available in 2025 and they are pushing me to go for GTline or HTX. But i have following requirements (musts) due to which i chose Gravity,
1) Ventilated Seats
2) IVT

HTX doesnt have ventilated seats, while GTX doesn't suit my driving style and i found it unsuitable for city's bump to bump traffic and 18 inches wheel's suspension is not good. Plus i am not bothered about360 camera or ADAS, i can live without them.

Since i am sticking to gravity they are not providing any discounts and also saying since the stock is not there the new stock will come with Jan manufacturing and will have revised price.

I have followed this thread and not found much info for gravity, so if anyone has a gravity edition i wud love to connect and know more about their experience.
Special editions are not a good option for me. Its very difficult to find those special parts in future since these editions are always launched for short term. If nothing else works, get seat ventilation as aftermarket accessory, HTX should have everything else for you.
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I have following requirements (musts) due to which i chose Gravity,
1) Ventilated Seats
2) IVT

HTX doesnt have ventilated seats, while GTX doesn't suit my driving style and i found it unsuitable for city's bump to bump traffic and 18 inches wheel's suspension is not good. Plus i am not bothered about360 camera or ADAS, i can live without them.

Since i am sticking to gravity they are not providing any discounts and also saying since the stock is not there the new stock will come with Jan manufacturing and will have revised price.
Welcome to the world of Kia India. Only Gravity variant has what you want in Seltos. Even I was pushed towards HTX IVT by 2 showrooms in Hyderabad. Gravity variant is not selling much due to blue colored seat and interior as per salesperson.

HTX variant interior looks lot better as compared to Gravity variant.


You can consider Creta SX(O) IVT to get ventilated seats and IVT gearbox.
Seltos HTX+ IMT gets ventilated seats. This is Turbo petrol engine so you might get lesser mileage. Petrol IMT does not sell much and HTX+ variant also sells less. If the dealer has HTX+ IMT then you could get good deal if you are okay with IMT gearbox.
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Special editions are not a good option for me. Its very difficult to find those special parts in future since these editions are always launched for short term. If nothing else works, get seat ventilation as aftermarket accessory, HTX should have everything else for you.
Thanks, I don't see gravity having any special part apart from Gravity badging and company fitted dashcam, rest all is same as HTX or GT line.
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You can consider Creta SX(O) IVT to get ventilated seats and IVT gearbox.
I tried Creta, but family doesn't like the looks Other reason why they are pushing for the other variants may be because they are trying to clear out the older stock. hence giving all these excuses.
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