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Old 22nd August 2023, 13:24   #376
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Finally took delivery of the booked car last week. Had booked HTX IVT variant in Silver but due to unavailability took delivery of the same variant in Black.

I do have a query though, in case someone can shed some light on the matter. Does the new Seltos not come with a perfume in the air purifier anymore? I do believe I observed it being present in the outgoing model.
Congrats and best wishes on the new ride

And no, I don't think perfume is included in the air purifier. Saw multiple YouTube videos mentioning it's not included anymore.
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Old 22nd August 2023, 15:37   #377
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Finally took delivery of the booked car last week. Had booked HTX IVT variant in Silver but due to unavailability took delivery of the same variant in Black.

I do have a query though, in case someone can shed some light on the matter. Does the new Seltos not come with a perfume in the air purifier anymore? I do believe I observed it being present in the outgoing model.
Congratulations on the new car! Regarding the perfume, yes it has been removed.

Had one question regarding the MID of car. I see they have given a compass inside. Can you please check and tell-

1) If it also shows navigation directions when connected to onboard navigation?
2) Does it also show navigation directions when connected to Android Auto or Apple Carplay?
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Old 22nd August 2023, 16:03   #378
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

I am in the market trying to buy a car; Seltos HTK+ Petrol, Manual is in my shortlist. Then, KIA isn't keen to sell...or so it appears except in Metro and next-Metros. With Monopoly of Dealer in several districts in Taminadu, the Dealer will only sell the highest end variants
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For a family of (me, wifey, 2 year daughter and my mom), looking for a MPV/SUV for 50-50 City/Highway usage.
Following were the requirements
- Need an automatic
- Needs to be SUV/MPV
- Mix of 50-50 city and highway (Plan monthly weekend getaways)
* Oh yes, this city means Banashankari to Marathahalli 3 days a week
- Good enough boot space for weekends and for 5-7 day trips
- Decent mileage expected
- Hassle free and good after sales service
- Planning to keep the car for 10-12 years
- Good suspension and NVH
- Good cabin spaciousness and cooling are important

Any suggestions from the below 3 options, I know Maruti after sales and service is great, but are the premium cars (rather premium charged for these cars) worth the price?

After checking out the cars, I am zeroing in on these 3
- Maruti XL6
- Seltos HTX
- Maruti GV Zeta

Loved the XL6 due to lots of space and suits us family of 4 perfectly.
However, the quality isn't inspire too much confidence.

Seltos cabin is much nicer, supposed to be better built in 2023 variant.
Suspension felt stiff, but this can be tweaked I guess.
Felt more expensive, and the sunroof not sure how it balances the car and the lifespan.

The GV is practically perfect for city, and weekend drives with good mileage and service.
The ground clearance and suspension is very good.
However, cabin is not too wide, and the sunroof shade is so flimsy and transparent.
The cost is also expensive.

My question is GV is 22.5L vs 17.5L for XL6, is the premium worth it?
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Old 22nd August 2023, 17:52   #380
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For a family of (me, wifey, 2 year daughter and my mom), looking for a MPV/SUV for 50-50 City/Highway usage.
Following were the requirements
- Need an automatic
- Needs to be SUV/MPV
- Mix of 50-50 city and highway (Plan monthly weekend getaways)
* Oh yes, this city means Banashankari to Marathahalli 3 days a week
- Good enough boot space for weekends and for 5-7 day trips
- Decent mileage expected
- Hassle free and good after sales service
- Planning to keep the car for 10-12 years
- Good suspension and NVH
- Good cabin spaciousness and cooling are important

Any suggestions from the below 3 options, I know Maruti after sales and service is great, but are the premium cars (rather premium charged for these cars) worth the price?

After checking out the cars, I am zeroing in on these 3
- Maruti XL6
- Seltos HTX
- Maruti GV Zeta

...My question is GV is 22.5L vs 17.5L for XL6, is the premium worth it?
I would suggest you to go for the Seltos. It is one handsome looking car and has got all the bells and whistles you need from the car and the drive quality has been made better. Also if you find the cabin less wide, you can go with the Creta as well. For some reason the Creta feels more spacious than the Seltos. I have sat in both the cars back to back and I felt Creta to be more spacious. Combined with the trusted Hyundai badge and good resale, the Creta can be a good choice.

If you really need a 7 seater, a left field choice would be Alcazar if it suits your budget. It has got all the features you need, a fuel efficient engine and the extra space you require.

If I'm spending 20L on a car I would love the cabin to feel and look premium which I don't find in Maruti cars.

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Old 22nd August 2023, 18:03   #381
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I would suggest you to go for the Seltos. It is one handsome looking car and has got all the bells and whistles you need from the car and the drive quality has been made better. Also if you find the cabin less wide, you can go with the Creta as well. For some reason the Creta feels more spacious than the Seltos. I have sat in both the cars back to back and I felt Creta to be more spacious. Combined with the trusted Hyundai badge and good resale, the Creta can be a good choice.
If you really need a 7 seater, a left field choice would be Alcazar if it suits your budget. It has got all the features you need, a fuel efficient engine and the extra space you require.
If I'm spending 20L on a car I would love the cabin to feel and look premium which I don't find in Maruti cars.
I agree that cabin should be premium, is it worth that extra, Creta I didn't mention since more or less similar, but no Alcazar as its way more, already stretched for GV at 22.5.

The TCO and after sales service still doesn't give full confidence on Seltos though, Creta could be better yes.

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Old 22nd August 2023, 18:29   #382
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My question is GV is 22.5L vs 17.5L for XL6, is the premium worth it?
I would suggest to avoid the Maruti cars. Both are not built to good standards and the cabin reeks of it (especially the XL6). Both are prone to rattles, and NVH is bad.

Seltos fits the bill perfectly. As an owner of a pre owned Sonet Turbo iMT, my experience has been fantastic. In 2.5 years, the car has never visited the SVC apart from two regular services, and the services have been carried out well. There were multiple checks from different levels of hierarchy of the dealership regarding whether I was satisfied with service. Even received call from Kia India, regarding quality of service. All this, gives me confidence in their ASS.

For a family of four, I don't think you need a XL6. If you need, I would suggest taking a look at the Carens and Triber. Both IMO are better cars than XL6 (Triber from VFM POV).

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Old 22nd August 2023, 18:42   #383
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Finally got my GTX+ turbo petrol delivered yesterday, drove for about 20 Kms in the city. My first impression/observations:

# Cabin feels premium, although black interiors make it appear small, the sunroof compensates for it. I wish Kia provided the option of brown interiors of HTX+ in GTX+ too.
# Ventilated seats work, can evaluate better after a long drive. I am one of those who would end up with sweaty back within half an hour of driving, sitting on leatherette seats. I really wish these seats would be a boon for me.
# NVH levels are good, very good at slow speeds, a little noticeable at higher speeds but still ok.
# Bose speakers are just above average, even after trying multiple ways to tune the sound output, it didn't wow me or my wife.
# Tyre pressures are 38-40 psi, wanted to reduce to 35 but decided to try with those for a while. Small bumps were not very noticeable, however, larger humps required slowing down. The stiffness is definitely present but at lower tyre pressures, I guess, it will be manageable. NOTE: my only other experience driving on Indian roads has been my 10-year old i10 and a Thar.

I'll add more when I go for a longer drive and at higher speeds. One thing is for sure, this car feels so comfortable overall, it really spoils you. At this price point, it's tough to find a worthy competitor in terms of features. And here's a pic
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# Tyre pressures are 38-40 psi, wanted to reduce to 35 but decided to try with those for a while. Small bumps were not very noticeable, however, larger humps required slowing down. The stiffness is definitely present but at lower tyre pressures, I guess, it will be manageable. NOTE: my only other experience driving on Indian roads has been my 10-year old i10 and a Thar.
The white is gorgeous. I wish the White came in for me before the Red, but I am happy with the Red too.

Reduce the pressures to 32. My car came with 44psi and I reduced it while refueling right after the pickup, but the road noise and stiffness didn't improve. Only option is to change to different tyres, I changed them to Continental UC6's which are the only decent option in the stock size. The entire car's ride characteristics changed with them.

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I would suggest to avoid the Maruti cars. Both are not built to good standards and the cabin reeks of it (especially the XL6). Both are prone to rattles, and NVH is bad.

Seltos fits the bill perfectly. As an owner of a pre owned Sonet Turbo iMT, my experience has been fantastic. In 2.5 years, the car has never visited the SVC apart from two regular services, and the services have been carried out well. There were multiple checks from different levels of hierarchy of the dealership regarding whether I was satisfied with service. Even received call from Kia India, regarding quality of service. All this, gives me confidence in their ASS.

For a family of four, I don't think you need a XL6. If you need, I would suggest taking a look at the Carens and Triber. Both IMO are better cars than XL6 (Triber from VFM POV).
Thanks, ruled out Triber due to AMT and after sales and service.

XL6, quite frankly didn't find it that bad, the only problem with Seltos I feel it's too expensive for the AT variant and not a fan of iMT, rather Manual is better I feel. That being said, I have also heard no issues in service from others as well, but XL6 felt cruising at 90-100 with 4 folks and a large boot (due to 3rd row down) would work wonders for longer drives especially with kids.

But yes, need to TD some more to be sure.

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XL6, quite frankly didn't find it that bad, the only problem with Seltos I feel it's too expensive for the AT variant and not a fan of iMT, rather Manual is better I feel. That being said, I have also heard no issues in service from others as well, but XL6 felt cruising at 90-100 with 4 folks and a large boot (due to 3rd row down) would work wonders for longer drives especially with kids.
But yes, need to TD some more to be sure.
A MPV would undoubtedly offer better value in terms of price to size ratio, compared to SUV styled car, and will also seat more people. Applicable to all SUV designed cars in the segment.

My comments with XL6 are purely from a long term ownership perspective. Except the S Cross and Brezza, most Maruti cars suffer from long term durability test. By this I don't mean the engine-gearbox combo(these will easily outlast a decade), but by the general materials used elsewhere. Rattles creep up all around in just about 10-15K kms of driving, plastics start losing there sheen, suspensions to wear out quicker than similarly priced competitors. There's also the horrible non self centering steering which is a basic safety feature, absent in most Maruti cars (not sure if issue persists in XL6). Read more Here (Why the heck will Maruti-Suzuki not fix its defective & dangerous steering behaviour?)

Seltos commands a premium because of the SUVish design, upmarket interiors, excellent refinement and relatively better build quality. The standard safety features and general equipment is also way more than the XL6.

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I agree that cabin should be premium, is it worth that extra, Creta I didn't mention since more or less similar, but no Alcazar as its way more, already stretched for GV at 22.5.

The TCO and after sales service still doesn't give full confidence on Seltos though, Creta could be better yes.
Get a TD of both the Seltos and creta and I'm sure you'll have the perfect car in your hands
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The facelift of the Kia Seltos looks more sleek and aggressive compared to before.

When I start driving, I hope I can convince my parents to sell our Venue and get this instead.

One thing which I liked about the facelift is that they brought the 1.5 Turbo DCT for the HTX+ variant, which is budget friendly, and I hope I can get it in the near future.

Overall, probably my favorite car on the market under 25 lakh rupees.

Kudos to Kia for giving us such a good facelift with plenty of features
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Finally got my GTX+ turbo petrol delivered yesterday, drove for about 20 Kms in the city. My first impression/observations:
Congratulations!! The white looks gorgeous. If I didn't have a white car already, would have definitely gone with the white.
Eagerly waiting to hear your ownership experience!!!
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Finally got my GTX+ turbo petrol delivered yesterday, drove for about 20 Kms in the city. My first impression/observations:

I'll add more when I go for a longer drive and at higher speeds. One thing is for sure, this car feels so comfortable overall, it really spoils you. At this price point, it's tough to find a worthy competitor in terms of features. And here's a pic
Wow! White looks classy. I've chosen the same model in Silver. Now confused between Silver and White

What was the final on road price?
Did you go with dealer insurance?
Which dealer did you go with?
How was the delivery experience overall?

(Sorry for so many questions)

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