Team-BHP - 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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Originally Posted by jazzy (Post 5634850)

I wonder what could be the reason other than may be, first servicing was done last week. Has anybody else noticed something like this?

The best way to check the mileage of your vehicle is the erstwhile tank-to-tank method. In the recent cars the real-time mileage figures shown by the in-car displays are quite ‘inflated’ and don’t quite give the real picture.

Also, do the test with 70% highway & 30% city combined run.

For instance, my Sonet D AT used to show ~17-18 kmpl on the display panel; whereas tank-to-tank I used to get ~14-15 kmpl.

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Originally Posted by Karthik R (Post 5634844)

How much do they charge for their service?
Do you think the report is any better than what it would have been if you had done the PDI yourself?

They charged me 2500 inclusive tax. I didn't have any other option, as I was out of town. If I had done the PDI then I would not have covered so many things. My wife was present during the PDI. She was happy with the service. As per
her statement, I believe could not have checked few things like.

1. They connected some device to the ECU of the car and checked all electrical parts as well as engine. In one of the vehicle they found the battery/some electrical component was replaced. Hence advised us not to take that car.
2. They found one of the tyre manufacturing date was little older compared to other tyres
3. Regarding the Paint, they used a device to check the paint density of each and every panel to figure out the uniformity and also to make sure no panel is repainted. If a person has the device then he/she can do it by yourself.
4. At the side corner of the bonnet (bonnet edge facing downside) they noticed and reported a small chip off (size will be equal to the size of sugar particle). Which I could have missed. The inspection guy showed that to the SA as well as to my wife.

So I think, it is ok to avail such service. To few people the charge may look little on the higher side but in some condition it makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Sufficient_shop (Post 5634848)

Very helpful. Thank you. I'm particularly interested about the windscreen testing done. Did they check for distortion and UV coating?

Yes, they did check the distortion of the front windshield as well as all the glass area. After reading the team-bhp post about the Windshield distortion issue, I asked them to check. Which they did. In fact, my wife was telling the person who did the PDI, he inspected each and every electrical/electronic component such Sunroof, AC, Lights, Speakers, power window, etc.. and almost everything.

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Originally Posted by itzvicky201 (Post 5634858)

Do they share pictures of the car? In your report, it indicates paint chipping, so if you need to point out to dealer, do they share the exact spot?

Yes, he shared the photo with my wife as well as with the SA. Also he showed the spot to them.

Would like to hear from FMs who have taken Acko insurance. I have got the quotation of rupees 36500/- for the GTX+ variant. They have given the quotation of zero depreciation with all add-on. They are offering 95℅ of ex showroom value as the IDV value (i.e. 95℅ of 19,79,900). I have seen few post where people have opted for acko insurance for around 45k for the same GTX+ variant. My question is, am I missing any add-on. Why my quotation is 10k less than others. I don't want to pay more but at the same time I wanted to know the reason.

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Originally Posted by gck_tourer (Post 5635016)

This is useful. Many people don't have the eye for detail or skills required to do this themselves. While buying a 20 Lakh Rupee car spending 2500 for PDI is a no brainer. Thanks.

This is what Zekardo's website shows against New Car PDI Solution:

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₹2,500/- (incl GST)

Definitely will go with this when I have the car allotted. At this price, its worth it. :thumbs up

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Originally Posted by bizi05 (Post 5635221)

Better to share the quote screenshot here for people to answer better. Even Tata AIG's quotation comes to around 46k for the GTX+. It includes zero dep, engine cover and most other relevant add-ons.

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Originally Posted by Mlada_Boleslav (Post 5635266)

How did the dealer agree to external insurance for Seltos! :Shockked: I couldn’t convince my dealer. Probably now with the price hike and lower waiting period it’s worth another shot negotiating with them. Do share any tips if you have, thanks.

Did you try to negotiate even before the allotment? If so, that's a mistake. Let the car get allotted and then you show them the external quotation. Worst case, they will match the quote.

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Originally Posted by Mlada_Boleslav (Post 5635266)

Dealer can not force you on Insurance and Accessories. They will try to convince you with their tantrums but it is up to you. Whether you agree or not. You need to push back. In my case, the insurance person from the dealer did not agree to match the price that I got it from outside but she did not force me to buy dealer-provided insurance. Epitome Kia, Bangalore has been very liberal in this matter, I have not seen them forcing customers to buy Insurance and Accessories from them.

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Originally Posted by Sufficient_shop (Post 5635290)

Better to share the quote screenshot here for people to answer better. Even Tata AIG's quotation comes to around 46k for the GTX+. It includes zero dep, engine cover and most other relevant add-ons.

I got exactly same quotation and I have taken this insurance, minus the electrical accessories cover. The acko sales guy told me that it is required only if you are getting any EXTERNAL accessories which tamper with the existing electrical points in your car, like updating audio or dashcam that requires tampering with wiring. In my case, I didn't need this cover.

Return to invoice is an important one, I believe, considering the huge taxes levied by Karnataka govt.

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Originally Posted by bizi05 (Post 5634910)

Thank you for detailing out their process. Seems very professional and includes a lot of things we might miss out on.
And the price also is very reasonable.

Update on my mileage : Had reported low mileage figures of around 10kmpl. I m now in my hometown and driving sanely around 60kmph. I initially thought Eco mode would give better mileage. But to my surprise I am getting +2kmpl with Normal mode. Getting around 13kmpl. Have seen it go to 15kmpl few times. Not doing spirited driving as of now. First servicing done. Total driven 885km.

Does anyone know how to disable auto emergency braking during reverse and during auto collision and keep them at just warning ? Had a second instance of a car almost rear ending me due to emergency breaking due to auto collision avoidance. The bike in front sped away. The emergency braking wasnt needed. I would appreciate a simple warning. I think that's what works for the city roads here.

Took delivery of the GT Line 1.5 Turbo 10 days back - my better half's daily drive.

1. Paid 20k more for insurance from the dealer - unnecessary, but the SA did help in getting priority allotment and delivery + zero effort on my part, did not bother.

2. The PSI was 45 when delivered. The ride was a tad firm but I'm used to it (have a Bilstien equipped car!). Reduced it to 33 after a week. Excellent ride-handling balance now - the body roll is reasonably well contained. Sticking with JKs for now. Zero rattles.

3. XP95 makes a noticeable difference, just like in my VW turbo petrol. Revs more silently and smoothly.

4. 8.5-9.5 kmpl in peak Mumbai traffic in Normal mode. Not bad.

5. My Convenience Plus is still not activated by the dealer. Escalated to Kia.

6. Well equipped - 2 things I wish it really had - memory seats + Lights in the Sun Visor (the missus got used to it in the previous car)