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Old 6th October 2023, 15:25   #826
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Re: 2023 Kia Seltos Facelift Review

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For city usage it is better to go with 1.5 CVT, that engine with CVT transmission will give you a smooth experience with good mileage.
Agreed! But there is no CVT in HTX+( my preferred variant). Even in GTX+ and X-line there is no CVT.

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iMT is a manual transmission, the gears have to be changed just like manual cars but there is no clutch. Clutch action is done by the electronics.

DCT is an automatic and your father has to be comfortable with it. Most people find it extremely comfortable to drive an automatic especially in city drives.
Will there be any mileage difference between them?
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Old 6th October 2023, 16:12   #827
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Will there be any mileage difference between them?
Since the engine is 1.5 turbo in both the vehicles, unlikely that there will be a significant difference in the milage. In many cases the auto gearbox shifts correctly and can improve the milage over a manual drive car.
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Old 6th October 2023, 17:08   #828
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I got the full floor mating done today. They didn't have them in stock at the time of delivery. Attaching few pictures which I took them in haste.

Today, I completed my first service for my car, which has traveled 820km in total, split evenly between city and highway driving. On the highways, it's delivering around 20km per liter.

The service was impressively fast; I stayed with my car and had it back in just an hour. Besides their standard inspection, I asked them to specifically check the engine coolant levels due to a warning displayed on the Kia Connect app.

So far, I'm satisfied with how the car performs.
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Old 6th October 2023, 18:30   #829
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I had the opportunity to test drive the Seltos GTX diesel today, and there was one notable drawback that caught my attention - the anaemic seat ventilation. The SA assured me that it was linked to the blower speed and turned it up to the maximum, but even then, I couldn't feel any difference.

Interestingly, a few days ago, I had seen the same test drive car at the dealership and experienced the same issue. My friend, who was with me during that visit, didn't even realize that the seat ventilation was running, despite it being set to its highest level. At that time, I had assumed that was due to the car being in idle mode. In contrast, my parents own a 2019 edition Seltos, and having driven it a few times in the Goa summer heat, I can attest to how effective the seat ventilation is in the Seltos.

I want to believe that this issue is specific to the heavily used and possibly abused test drive car. To further investigate, I plan to take a test drive of the GTX petrol version next week for comparison. However, I'd greatly appreciate hearing from owners of the car. Is the seat ventilation in your Seltos adequate?

P.S. This is my first post after being a long-time lurker, so please go easy on me!
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However, I'd greatly appreciate hearing from owners of the car. Is the seat ventilation in your Seltos adequate?
I have been using it close to 2 weeks now and I haven't faced any issues yet. It certainly is adequate for me

Attaching the my convenience certificate for reference to whoever is in the process or thinking to opt for it
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts! AS this will be my family's car, HTX Plus will be suitable, as my father is not at all tech savvy. And getting used to a completely different thing will not suit him.

If I may ask for one more advice, iMT or DCT?

Considering only petrol as we will use the car in city (95%).


Appreciate your opinion! Can I ask which gear box you went with? And how much mileage can I expect in city use?

The price gap between the DCT and iMT options is approximately 1.2 lakhs on the road. If budget constraints aren't a concern, the DCT stands out as the top choice. However, iMT is not a jerky gearbox like AMT. In fact, it has received highly favorable reviews from those who have experienced it. There are a few advantages to choosing iMT over DCT:
  • Improved fuel efficiency.
  • Eliminates the possibility of DCT-related failures.
  • Allows for engine braking, a feature absent in DCT.
  • Offers potential savings of around 1 lakh.

You should take a test drive to determine if iMT is fits your requirement and driving style.
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Those who are still waiting for the allotment, are you being tempted by the new Safari/Harrier in any way? Or nothing at all?!
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I have been using it close to 2 weeks now and I haven't faced any issues yet. It certainly is adequate for me

Attaching the my convenience certificate for reference to whoever is in the process or thinking to opt for it
I purchased Kia Convinience plus online and I didn't get any certificate or any document, although during my first servicing, I did mention it and the they did take care of everything. So who can provide this? The dealer?
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Attaching the my convenience certificate for reference to whoever is in the process or thinking to opt for it
Thanks for sharing! Looks like a value for money package

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Those who are still waiting for the allotment, are you being tempted by the new Safari/Harrier in any way? Or nothing at all?!
I am looking at under 20L vehicles so those 2 are fortunately not causing any more confusion than I need

I am only thinking about Creta's impending launch for now but doesn't look like it'll be anytime soon

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I purchased Kia Convinience plus online and I didn't get any certificate or any document, although during my first servicing, I did mention it and the they did take care of everything. So who can provide this? The dealer?
Yes, the dealer will provide. However, I purchased this along with the car itself. When I went for my 1st service today i.e. 1000km, the service center didn't ask for the certificate nor they didn't care of I had Convenience package or not.
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I purchased Kia Convinience plus online and I didn't get any certificate or any document, although during my first servicing, I did mention it and the they did take care of everything. So who can provide this? The dealer?
I bought it from the dealership it self and they Whatsapped me the certificate.

It also shows in the "my kia" app.

There is a green tick mark beside extended warranty and my convience plus in the app after you have purchased it.
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Attaching the my convenience certificate for reference to whoever is in the process or thinking to opt for it
Kia has conveniently skipped mentioning in the certificate the complimentary one scratch repair in first year which is part of the My Convenience Plus package.

I had a tough time explaining this to the service center guys for my Carens. They checked with the company guys to verify if any such offer exists. I even shared the following link of Kia FAQs which mentions 'Scratch Care' with the SC guys.

https://www.kia.com/in/service/custo...eness/faq.html
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Kia has conveniently skipped mentioning in the certificate the complimentary one scratch repair in first year which is part of the My Convenience Plus package.

I had a tough time explaining this to the service center guys for my Carens. They checked with the company guys to verify if any such offer exists. I even shared the following link of Kia FAQs which mentions 'Scratch Care' with the SC guys.

https://www.kia.com/in/service/custo...eness/faq.html

Thankyou a million times for this. I never knew about this. I got a minor scratch in the bumper of my car in the area where ppf application was not possible. My first service is due on Monday.

I told my sa about a minor scratch when it happened and if he could do something about it but he outright rejected any possibility. And told me it will cost you money. I'll use this clause now.

Again thank you for this information.

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Those who are still waiting for the allotment, are you being tempted by the new Safari/Harrier in any way? Or nothing at all?!
As an ex-Harrier owner, I will say, don't fall for looks rather wait for niggles to get reported. Buy anything new from Tata Stable, a couple of months or a year from the launch. Go through Tata ownership threads and take a wise call.

With this update, I hope they will solve the notorious left pull, steering tuning, early rusting and ergonomics while after-sales are always a hit or a miss. My norm was a compulsory 3M visit after each service to clean the soiled interiors

The advantages of Harrier over Seltos are its ride quality and rugged nature. The Harrier simply handles any kind of terrain within its 2wd capability be it tarmac or non-tarmac.

Seltos scores in refinement, ergonomics, fit and finish, paint quality, ease of driving, reliability and after-sales.

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Those who are still waiting for the allotment, are you being tempted by the new Safari/Harrier in any way? Or nothing at all?!
For me, not at all. I personally never liked the looks of Harrier/Safari, they look like a cross between Land Rover and XUV 500. There are some butch-looking muscular projections all around but unlike XUV 500, they look dispropotionate.

Keeping looks aside, I believe Harrier/Safari is for a different set of customers. Seltos is the ultimate car in terms of refinement at this price point, unless you are willing to spend at least 12-15 big ones more and move to 1-2 segments above, you won't get the same in any other car. I am going to write a much longer post on the overall ease of driving a seltos, with it's auto-headlamps, auto-hold, smooth DSG, auto-dimming IRVM and much more. All I have to do it hop on to my car, click the push button and drive. I find it wierd that some proponents of Elevate are complaining about too many "confusing" features in Seltos. On the contrary, I just have to set those features to my liking and never bother about those.

Another important reason for not leaning towards Harrier/Safari is all the reports of niggles/issues by early customers and of course, the notorious service centers of Tata. I simply hate running around people to get things done for something that I have already paid over 20 lakhs.

And of course, there is issue of petrol vs diesel. Yes diesel-powered vehicles are more torquey, especially at lower speeds but the world is moving towards petrol (and electric/hybrid) faster than many of us realise. Chinese customers have been leapfrogging to EVs directly. In a few years, with a diesel car, you may be left holding a tin can. In the strange times that we live in, even EV technology is changing so fast that current tech could be obsolete very quickly and some new EV tech could take over. May be we need to keep changing cars every 3-5 years but that's another discussion.
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