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Old 14th September 2023, 23:09   #166
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Re: 2023 Tata Nexon Facelift Review

At 14.7 lac exshowroom, Tata Nexon top-end petrol automatic is just 1.3L behind Honda Elevate top-end petrol.

Now, taking a quick look at the brochure, these are the significant things Honda Elevate misses out in comparison to Nexon.
  • Rain sensing wipers
  • Cooled glovebox
  • Built-in TPMS (Elevate provides TPMS as an accessory with Honda connect app support)
  • 360 degree camera
  • Height Adjustable Driver and Co-driver Seat Belts
  • 3-point seatbelt for rear middle passenger
  • Height Adjustable Co-driver Seat
  • Ventilated Front Seats
  • Sub woofer
  • Comfortable seating for 3 adults in the rear(Subjective).

Except for the crucial rear middle passenger 3-point seatbelt and the capability to accommodate 3 adults in the rear, rest of all the features are more of convenience and are not deal-breakers in my opinion. However, Elevate gets ADAS, better leg room in the rear and a bigger boot. I am not comparing the engines as they are different - NA vs turbo. So, a premium of 1.3L is worth to go for Elevate is what I feel for top-end vs top-end automatic. However, in terms of mid variants, equations might differ since Honda made a bummer by reserving 6 airbags only for the top-end.

And, I just finished my test drive of the Elevate today morning and though it was a weekday, there was a good number of people waiting for us to return to the showroom soon and looks like Honda showroom is now going to get more busy.

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Old 15th September 2023, 02:51   #167
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At 14.7 lac exshowroom, Tata Nexon top-end petrol automatic is just 1.3L behind Honda Elevate top-end petrol.

However, in terms of mid variants, equations might differ since Honda made a bummer by reserving 6 airbags only for the top-end.
This fact that the Honda Elevate doesn't offer 6 airbags as standard might become a hinderance in achieving a 5-Star BNCAP rating. BNCAP requires every model to have 6 airbags in order to qualify for a 4/5 star rating which is not the case with the Elevate.

However, the Nexon (when tested) will proudly shine its badge of 5 star BNCAP rating as it has quite a lot of safety equipment as standard, not to mention the already proven X1 platform.

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Old 15th September 2023, 07:18   #168
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I myself have struggled between Elevate/Nexon dilemma for the past month. I was looking for a city friendly compact automatic car with a budget of around 15L. I went the Nexon DCT creative+ way. Here's my reasoning -

Nexon is
+Safer
+Shorter (from parking and traffic perspective it's a plus)
+ Has turbo engine
+ Feature rich

Now Elevate V CVT costs 40k more than Nexon DCT creative+ despite missing out on a lot of features.

I am not claiming that Nexon is a better vehicle than Elevate, but it made more sense for me.

I realise that by making this choice I have to trade the refinement of Honda.

I was expecting (read hoping) to get Fearless DCT in my budget. However, after the price reveal (a shocker I must admit) I had to let go of the fearless variant. Finally zeroed in on Creative+ and booked the car.
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Old 15th September 2023, 07:19   #169
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I talked to one of the SA in Bangalore and he mentioned that for the top-end Fearless + S DCA onroad price would be 18.46L. It's too high for a sub compact SUV.
Stretch 1-1.5 L more one would go for tension-free Honda's CVT Elevate.

I was looking to upgrade my 10-year-old i20 and totally confused about what to pick now. I don't see any value in spending 18.5 for sub compact SUV
I think elevate is rightly priced If you have enough parking space, also, the elevate is value for money for the price.
In bangalore, automatic is the best car to drive because of the high traffic condition.
The new nexon's automatic is priced way too expensive.
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Pretty surprised about the Honda ELEVATE~ion here. Just because prices are falling in same territory, one cannot compare apples and oranges.
With all their expertise in automotive industry, Honda came with just 1 engine option with 1 each MT and CVT GB's. This is their only engine since decades and their improvement is almost negligible.

If Honda's are so perfect to be compared with Tata Nexon, how is that their direct competitor Jazz or WRV which had multiple Engine options was successfully killed by Honda? It has proper 4 pot engine, nice CVT, earth shattering diesel engine but still the sales were almost negligible.

So, we all can blame the Tata's high pricing but high prices are moving as per market standards. This is hardly reality, are we failing to see or we just pretending not to see but blame Tata ?

Few models of City, even Ciaz falls in Nexon's bracket. Now these cars though they are sedan, has much higher acceptance in brand value but again, sales arent in same league.

If 3 POT is a worry, majority of Nexon's on road should be diesel but Tata has announced that their major sales are from Petrol only. So, its proudly accepted where it has direct competition from Brezza and Venue who has better quality engines.

So, there is something else which Nexon grabs. Find out the success story.

P.S: With all their mighty Japanese engineers, Honda should have at least integrated the key insert hole at the door handle.

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I had been the KHT Tata Showroom today afternoon ~2pm. Showroom was very very bland. Felt very lackluster.
Off topic but Im yet to get a call from Hyderabad based Hyundai dealers for a test drive of i20 for which I requested last year. I got a TD when I was in another town and eventually settled with Altroz DCA.

Till date, none called or asked If I was looking for i20 or any Hyundai model.
Why did I call and ask for TD at home ? Just to use this point to tell that almost all sales behave the same way, hits and miss happen.

If Im at your place, I wouldn't even wait 45 mins at the showroom. Forget for a TD, even the whole purchasing process, delivery and driving out didnt take 45 mins for me when I got my car.

Transferred full amount even before having the 1st look.
How many here can do that with their brands of their choice?

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Old 15th September 2023, 08:57   #171
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Off topic but Im yet to get a call from Hyderabad based Hyundai dealers for a test drive of i20 for which I requested last year. I got a TD when I was in another town and eventually settled with Altroz DCA.

Till date, none called or asked If I was looking for i20 or any Hyundai model.

Why did I call and ask for TD at home ? Just to use this point to tell that almost all sales behave the same way, hits and miss happen.
They gave TDs to 3 people while the receptionist made me wait for 20+ minutes. They were surely giving short Test Drives to walk-ins.

I was directed to the receptionist so that an SE could be allotted (from the dozen+ idle ones sitting with each other at the side).

This isn't the first car I've bought new. I know when to ignore a one-off bad sales guy. Going by how all the sales staff were behaving, this IMO was a culture problem.

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If Im at your place, I wouldn't even wait 45 mins at the showroom.
Easy to say in hindsight. It's not like one knows that it's going to be 45 mins at the start. I waited 15 mins, no joy - so spent 7-10 mins with the car in the dealership, went back & sat there waiting. I didn't simply walk out, I looked around for the SE for 5 mins noticed they're ALL tip-toeing to deliberately carefully avoid customers so they can sit idly. Figured they were not motivated/trained, before eventually giving up.

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...Forget for a TD, even the whole purchasing process, delivery and driving out didnt take 45 mins for me when I got my car.

Transferred full amount even before having the 1st look.
How many here can do that with their brands of their choice?

Mods : Please merge back to back posts.
To be honest, good for you. I didn't have that experience at Tata yesterday & posted what I went through.

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They gave TDs to 3 people while the receptionist made me wait for 20+ minutes. They were surely giving short Test Drives to walk-ins.

...

To be honest, good for you. I didn't have that experience at Tata yesterday & posted what I went through.
Hats off to your patience. It is indeed a pathetic experience. Can you please tell me if this was KHT Domlur or KHT Whitefield? Or any other KHT showroom?

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If 3 POT is a worry, majority of Nexon's on road should be diesel but Tata has announced that their major sales are from Petrol only. So, its proudly accepted where it has direct competition from Brezza and Venue who has better quality engines.

So, there is something else which Nexon grabs. Find out the success story
Exactly. 3 POT is a worry for car enthusiasts, not for common public who wants to own a car with nice features, safety & trouble free ownership. Although, lot of people will disagree on Tata & trouble free ownership, the sales volume speaks for itself. And it is not selling as a taxi, but a proper family car.
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"Top end" is subjective here. Creative plus s is "top end" for almost everyone as it has most of the feature normally expected from top end.

Fearless is only for those who have no budget constraint but need a compact but feature rich car as a 2nd / 3rd car in family. (more of Hyundai Venue territory)
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Hats off to your patience. It is indeed a pathetic experience. Can you please tell me if this was KHT Domlur or KHT Whitefield? Or any other KHT showroom?

--Anoop
KHT Whitefield. Maybe car dealership sales outlets run on a loss, but the experience can't be SO cold. I really wonder how they get away with it because absolutely no other business will forgive this level of indifference from sales staff.

Edit : When we read that someone from Pune also had the exact same experience, its reasonable to understand that people at Tata haven't bother to plan & executed this launch half heartedly.

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I had been the KHT Tata Showroom today afternoon ~2pm.
After reading your post, I would say that you were extremely patient with the showroom staff. And that's admirable.

However, my suggestion would be to try a different showroom and not drop Nexon altogether. Because it fits your requirement better than ScorpioN IMO.

You're totally justified in feeling angry and disappointed with them, but there was a reason you went for the test drive. And it is because you think it fits your requirements. So why deprive yourself of a good vehicle because of few unprofessional staff who don't know how to run a business?
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14.7L ex-showroom for the top end petrol DCA model translates to ~18L OTR in MH.

Add about 1.5L to this for extended warranty and service plans and it’s in 20L territory from an acquisition cost standpoint.

Wouldn’t a prospective buyer prefer a larger car from 4.3m options like: Elevate/Kushaq/Creta/Seltos/Taigun/HyRyder/Grand Vitara.

I wonder if TaMo have gotten ahead of themselves with this pricing, highly doubt Nexon sales numbers can be retained (forget growth) with this insane pricing.

Unless they start giving discounts at a later point in time.

PS: the 5* NCAP benefit is offered by Kushaq/Taigun as well, that point is moot if the prices are comparable.

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Hats off to your patience. It is indeed a pathetic experience. Can you please tell me if this was KHT Domlur or KHT Whitefield? Or any other KHT showroom?

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After reading your post, I would say that you were extremely patient with the showroom staff. And that's admirable...

...You're totally justified in feeling angry and disappointed with them, but there was a reason you went for the test drive. And it is because you think it fits your requirements. So why deprive yourself of a good vehicle because of few unprofessional staff who don't know how to run a business?
We all go to the showroom with family with an intent to have a good nice experience seeing a prospective car, even if it seems to take some patience.

We went having a rough idea that the price was a little higher than the outgoing car. After returning we carefully studied the prices & to all of us at home this looks way too overpriced from what we believed to be its worth (this is very subjective & likely differs for everyone, viz why I've ignored that aspect in my earlier post).

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However, my suggestion would be to try a different showroom and not drop Nexon altogether. Because it fits your requirement better than ScorpioN IMO.
A petrol manual Nexon was meant as a secondary family beater car to be used on the pathetic potholed roads of the city. It wasn't instead of the ScorpioN, I was just glad to not have considered the Safari after the experience yesterday. We even saw how a full family which was waiting before we went in, being uneventfully delivered a new Harrier from within the showroom when we were leaving. A red Altroz too was being prepared for delivery at the entrance outside, despite the overcast cloudy sky.

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I myself have struggled between Elevate/Nexon dilemma for the past month. I was looking for a city friendly compact automatic car with a budget of around 15L. I went the Nexon DCT creative+ way. Here's my reasoning -

Nexon is
+Safer
+Shorter (from parking and traffic perspective it's a plus)
+ Has turbo engine
+ Feature rich

Now Elevate V CVT costs 40k more than Nexon DCT creative+ despite missing out on a lot of features.

I am not claiming that Nexon is a better vehicle than Elevate, but it made more sense for me.

I realise that by making this choice I have to trade the refinement of Honda.

I was expecting (read hoping) to get Fearless DCT in my budget. However, after the price reveal (a shocker I must admit) I had to let go of the fearless variant. Finally zeroed in on Creative+ and booked the car.
Hi, if you are looking for a city friendly compact car (assuming this is not going to be your only car) and have facility to install EV charger at home / apartment, then do check out Nexon.EV Creative+ MR which is around 15.70 onroad Pune. You will save huge on running cost by spending same amount of money. Nexon.EV is much superior to drive compared to Nexon ICE.
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Extended Warranty for the period of 1-90 days for additional 3 more years for 19XXX Rs for Altroz DCA XZ+. Consider a more expensive car for Nexon, would it be 1.5L Rs ? That's too high and almost 10% of the vehicle which I doubt to be honestly.
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