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Old 16th September 2023, 06:46   #211
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Re: 2023 Tata Nexon Facelift Review

As Tata Motors revealed the full price list for the Nexon facelift, here's how it stacks up against its rivals on the price graph.

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Nexon is certainly the most expensive compact crossover in the market, and nowhere near the value proposition it used to be a couple of years ago. Good thing is that at least they have kitted the car up properly, while the underlying mechanicals remain as solid as ever. Still, they are pushing the pricing envelope higher and higher. The higher variants are well and truly in the City/Verna/Elevate category, as well as up against the lower variants of Seltos and Creta.
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Old 16th September 2023, 09:17   #213
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For those extolling the Sonet over the Nexon, please test drive both and sit in the back seat of both over bad roads and see which is the more comfortable and sorted vehicle. Also, the Sonet turbo returns a lower mileage than the Nexon. And I am not even getting into the safety debate.

Also, I have driven both the Sonet and the Nexon extensively across all kinds of roads and I never found an issue with the Nexon's 3-pot engine. There is some vibration at start up and that's about it. The car is damped quite well and engine noise and harshness does not seep into the cabin much, even at higher speeds. Also the engine is tractable and the car is responsive and does three digit speeds without breaking a sweat. The double digit fuel economy despite being driven hard is an added bonus.

I might add that the DCA in Nexon looks tuned for better reliability and fuel efficiency than DCT in Sonet which offers quicker shifts. Both are very different takes on performance and the expected driving experience. I would personally prefer the wet clutch configuration over dry clutch any day.
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I had been the KHT Tata Showroom today afternoon ~2pm. Showroom was very very bland.
Well, it seems Tata dealerships will never change. Way back in 2016, I had visited Concorde (now shut) Pune to have a look at the Safari Storme, and later book if possible. Armed with my cheque book, I entered the showroom. I wait at the lounge to get attended to, but unfortunately no one came. Decided to check out the vehicle myself which was kept on display. Post 30 min, finally a salesman shows up who was least interested to share the details. Requested for a TD and was blandly refused, reason the TD vehicle had gone for repairs, fair enough. Requested for a home TD, the sales guy noted down my number in a piece of paper. I left the showroom with a very bad taste, never got a call. Fast forward, 2022, went to the showroom at Wakdewadi. Was about to enter the showroom, saw the sales people loitering around with no botheration at all. Left the showroom in flat 5 min, vowed never to buy a Tata car.
PS: I had a better experience at Force Motors showroom, which I had never expected.
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As Tata Motors revealed the full price list for the Nexon facelift, here's how it stacks up against its rivals on the price graph.

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Nexon is the most expensive in the category. If the difference is between 30-50K is justificable but the difference here is more than a lak for the top end, for sure Venue will see a spike in sales numbers for sure.

In Bangalore, with an additional warranty, it goes up to 18.7 on the road for the fearless+. Which is close to City/Verna
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I had been the KHT Tata Showroom today afternoon ~2pm. Showroom was very very bland. Felt very lackluster. Its partly why Harrier & Safari don't do good numbers. The Nexon was not even highlighted as a launch car in the showroom. It was simply parked in the far end of the showroom.

The sales staff was sitting idle while only a few people saw the Nexon. Despite there being 10+ staff, they were not at all interested in meeting customers. They were literally wailing away their time & trying their best to avoid customers who went up to them. Really made me wonder whether they were Tier III college students employed for free. Their uniforms too were like what blue collared staff would be mandated to wear.
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Is this Brookfield kht? I had the exact same experience some time before for altroz, absolutely pathetic condition of Tata showrooms. The domlur kht showroom was much better
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Does this mean TATA is promoting its EV over its petrol version or am I missing something here?
Probably this indeed is a subtle hint from Tata for the customers who care for EVs.

Every time a Tata car is around for a launch or facelift, it garners an attention no other car in India can possibly have. The entire country is a buzz. But sadly this is not converted to sales experience as well as ownership experience.

Seems tata should hire a genuine consultant and eminent psychologist to give a jolt and inspiration to the work force and lay down a world class work culture and ownership experience which should be an international class benchmark. And make the process an industry standard.
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Does anyone have information on the waiting period / delivery schedule?
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Wow what a pricing, the new car prices are getting jacked up day by day since the chip shortage started in 2020 and voila the automobile industry knows how to milk for sure.

Neways coming to Nexon and it's pricing it's giving a great value for money compared to the newly launched seltos. For the topend buyers both the cars offer plenty and depending on their requirements they can go for either of them.

What Nexon Fearless +S 6DCA offers better than Seltos Xline 7DCT
1) Wet Clutch technology(more durable)
2) Full Maps in instruments cluster(cool showoff feature)
3) Better headlights nd foglights due to led projector setup & cornering lights.
4) Wireless Android Auto & Apple Carplay
5) Cooled Glove Box
6) Puddle lights
7) Better safety rating 5 stars vs 3 stars of seltos(GNCAP test ratings of previous versions)
8) Height adjustable passenger seat

What Seltos Xline 7DCT offers better than Nexon Fearless +S 6DCA
1) Bigger engine and better power & torque and an extra gear
2) Rear Disc Brakes
3) ADAS functions
4) HUD
5) Electric powered driver seat
6) Electronic parking brake & autohold
7) Dual Zone AC
8) A Bigger Car with More space

Overall both the cars are well balanced with all other possible segment features and having a price difference of approx 5 lacs ex showroom between them for the topends. Hence it's very interesting to see which one the consumer should go for mainly city usage(approx 80%), whether one should go for nexon & save approx 5.5 to 6 lacs overall or should go for seltos, the car which started the features war & pampered us with luxury & comfort at little premium prices and shaken the auto industry to compete & reach where it's today.

Pardon me if i have missed out few features here & there in the differences.

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IMO considering these changes, the incremental price could have been around 70-75K only.
Pricing is never on the basis of cost of production alone. Considerations may include- Are there other products offering the same features in this segment or even from a segment above? Is this an established brand name in the market? Is there a wide enough price band to fit multiple customer segments? Can we get away with premium pricing for 1-2 variants while still seeming VFM?

If Tata can achieve larger margins through their higher variants, why not? All those features are nice-to-haves anyway.
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Exactly. 3 POT is a worry for car enthusiasts, not for common public who wants to own a car with nice features, safety & trouble free ownership. Although, lot of people will disagree on Tata & trouble free ownership, the sales volume speaks for itself.
Completely agree with that . When I was looking for the purchase of my tigor. I was really worried about 3 POT as most of our bhpians said it is under powered. But once I TD it I felt it's power delivery is adequate for my usage. I have done multiple 1000 km journeys in it never felt underpowered.
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What Nexon Fearless +S 6DCA offers better than Seltos Xline 7DCT

Only a minor correction, Nexon is offered in 7DCA configuration, not 6DCA
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Sonet has not yet been tested and not even the ‘new’ Nexon facelift based on the revised GNCAP or the indigenous BNCAP. Also, people have survived in a 0 star rated car and have been dead in a flagship Merc, so let’s not get into that safety rating aspect yet! There’s a lot more to a car apart from just dancing around with that safety crown.
Sonet isnt tested but it's family history shows that safety isn't their forte or priority.
The new nexon isn't tested. The old Nexon crumpled the current Sonet in its crash ratings. So, Nexon wins here by a fair margin.

Also, going by Tata's value for safety, either Nexon should get same rating or improve. They didn't rank low for next gen models.

Yes, there is lot more dancing other than safety as long as people dance only for a cup of coffee when visiting showrooms or service centers.

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No denying that safety is important; but it is one of the factors required in consideration along with the rest.

Also, you cannot have a car stranded in the service centre for days / weeks together with a 5 star safety. That car needs too move too. Just saying.
Thank you, at least you accepted that safety is important for Tata but not for Sonet manufacturers.

Yes, we cant get stranded by getting bed ridden with injuries or get packed in 6X2 wooden boxes for forever. The person who is in the car should walk out of the car. Just replying. It just sounds that every Tata car moves straight from a showroom to a garage and sits there for days , if true, then every unsafe should result in casualties which is untrue again. So, kindly dont sound that every Tata car makes you stranded.

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Top of the line auto costs close to 18 L in Chennai. Seriously TATA?? Moreover, these are “introductory prices”. God knows what will be the price in a month. Moreover, this pricing overlaps with quite a many cars which are a segment above with better engine and space. TATA’s VFM tag has gone for a toss. With their DCT which is not so great, I seriously want to understand what was in their mind while making decision.
There is no VFM in today's automotive world. Every car is expensive and every month we see new milestones being breached in car sales.
DCT is not great ? Perhaps in drag race. But arent we complaining for jerky AMT's and then demanded DCA? Did we all shift goal posts here?

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Fast forward, 2022, went to the showroom at Wakdewadi. Was about to enter the showroom, saw the sales people loitering around with no botheration at all. Left the showroom in flat 5 min, vowed never to buy a Tata car.
PS: I had a better experience at Force Motors showroom, which I had never expected.
Im really surprised that which showroom of Tata's are empty and staff are loitering around? Because, I always find them to very busy attending multiple families. Why am I saying is this because, when myself and my brother went to a Tata showroom, the response wasn't great. Then, the same weekend, we took all family members and response was fab. Then I realized, we didnt appear to be a prospective buyers for the sales team. This is a valid scenario.

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Hi, get yourself Honda Elevate V CVT at 16.75 lacs, spend 45K on Alloys and you are good to go with one of the best engine + AT transmission + reliability with good space inside out.
You found Nexon expensive but that doesn't mean one will buy Honda Elevate. Their elevations dont run long. Honda's are "Ek product kaa Sultaans".

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15.50 L for Diesel top end that too an AMT box?? TATA has lost it seriously. Kia Sonet gets a much better TC unit for a Lakh cheaper!

I just hope Kia doesn't go bizarre with pricing their Sonet facelift like the Nexon.
Diesel top end was almost 15L in Panipat in 2020, DT with Sunroom and AMT. It was a marginal increase and they didn't lose in earlier avatar too.

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If one scores 5* safety rating and other crumbles like a piece of paper, is it really fair to compare these two?
Safety is all what we demand when our hands on keyboard but mileage and a cup of coffee is needed when we are in car/garage.

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There is <70k difference between Creative+ DCA (14.86, as per company) and Creative+ EV (15.52, as per Cardekho.com).

Does this mean TATA is promoting its EV over its petrol version or am I missing something here?
Very interesting catch. By showing EV's are priced are close to petrol models, they are marketing EV's too. One's who is price dilemma can lap up an EV model. AFAIK, the margins are much higher in EV's than fossils.
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Overall both the cars are well balanced with all other possible segment features and having a price difference of approx 5 lacs ex showroom between them for the topends.
While Nexon is a fantastic vehicle, it should not be compared to Seltos which operates in a higher segment and is absolutely better than Nexon in almost every parameter.

Also, the 5 lacs ex-showroom is too big of a difference anyway for most customers to cross shop. Considering the wide price band Seltos plays in, if a customer has Seltos top-end money, then he/she has way better options in that segment than to consider Nexon.
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I visited one of the Key Motors showrooms in Bangalore and the entire showroom was crowded and filled with customers. Looks like they launched the new Nexon yesterday for display. Test drive vehicle is still not available.

Sales and Customer Experience was great and very professional. They greeted each and every person who visited the showroom. Even with so much crowd, they assigned SA to each and every customer. Overall a very happy and satisfied experience at the showroom

Could not take any pictures as there were many families who were looking at the display car. Will try to visit again for the Test Drive next week and take the pictures.

Few observations:

1. Fealess + S MT was at the display and car looks stunning and very premium. I did not see any fit and finish and quality issues reported during the media drive, Looks like they fixed it in the final customer production units.

2. As reviewed, display clarity and camera quality are top-notch. Worth the amount you spend.

3. They worked on the front seat and it was very comfortable to sit

4. I don't see anything has changed wrt build quality. And for sure it will score 5 stars. Its a solid car

What so not great:

5. Personally I would have preferred a button instead of a Touch panel, it's not comfortable to operate, and touch sensitivity is not so great. For sure you need to look at the panel to choose the correct option.
Maybe because we are all used to the buttons and touch may take a few days to get used to it. Need to re-evaluate after using it for a couple of days

6. They should have given a button for Hazard instead of a touch. I agree the usage of this button is less but it's really convenient to have it as a button.

7. The touch response of the Infotainment panel is Okay okay and there was a lag

8. The automated voice is so irritating and for every action, there was an automated voice, Not sure if we can turn off this

Overall it's a great car and Nexon has set the new standards in this segment for sure. After looking at the car personally, I don't see that the price they quoted is not on the higher side.

BTW, the Fearless variant by default comes with DT with a Black roof and there is no option to go for a single-tone.
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