[car_guy1998]

Originally Posted by Paritoshkalra

I have taken test drives of all the mid size SUVs available in the market in the range of 10 lakhs to 22 lakhs. Today evening I drive the Kia Seltos HTX IVT variant and I can conclude very easily that the CRETA wins the contest as far as the engine smoothness, NVH and ride quality is concerned. The overall aesthetics, color, look and feel of the Creta is more premium.

Also, the seats of Creta are wider and offer better under-thigh support than all the cars available in this segment. Elevate is too noisy and Honda has messed up with the NVH big time with this car.

Agree!

No car can beat Creta in terms of ride comfort, rear seat space and after sales. Heck, even Elevate didn't impress me much despite me being a Honda user.

Seltos might be better than Creta in terms of looks and has better drivability (that's the reason why driving enthusiasts pick Seltos over Creta), but cannot beat Creta in after sales network, ride quality. But, still I'd pick the Seltos over Creta any day IMO if rear seat space is not a concern and looks. Even Seltos has decent rear seat space but not as Creta's.

As a Hycross Hybrid user, even I too am sitting on the fence and thinking whether we should go for Creta or Seltos, albeit in Diesel AT guise next year though open to Petrol as well as the car might see only city driving most of the time but still I prefer getting Korean twins in Diesel AT guise due to smooth TC AT gearbox. But this will be the replacement for our other car, a 2014 Honda City iDTEC Diesel, which has run 1.9L Kms.

Most of my dad's friends used to own 1st gen Creta and they were happy with it. And, few of them had replaced their OG Cretas with Hycross Hybrid.

[capnemo]

Originally Posted by capnemo

I have been noticing a tyre pressure loss issue with my FL Creta.
The front left tyre has been gradually losing its tyre pressure, say from 35 to 32 psi over the course of a week whereas the others are more or less at the same 35.

Advaith Hyundai ORR reported a problem with the valve and said they fixed it, during the first service. But I've noticed the problem again, after 1 week.

Thinking of taking it to a tyre shop - any recommendations around the Bellandur / Marathahalli / HSR belt on a tyre shop that provides good diagnosis and service ?

This turned out to be a manufacturing defect - a small crack on the alloy that resulted in the tyre gradually leaking air and causing loss of pressure.
The Advaith ORR service team has raised a replacement request under warranty.

Since I was busy with a few personal issues, I was mostly out of Bangalore and hence could find time only the last weekend. I took it to Madhus at Wilson Garden who immersed the tyre in water and quickly spotted the root cause. I am amazed that the Advaith ORR service center were unable to diagnose the same during the first service, with such a simple procedure.

Anyways, looking forward to the replacement and hoping things go fine.

[GJGadget]

Hi Guys,

I have got Creta SX (O) and am looking to install a dashcam.

After going through lot of reviews I am planning to go in for a dual dash cam instead of only the front side.

Looking for suggestions as to which brand would be better to go for within INR 10k to Max upto 15k.

Apart will there be any issues with Airbags while getting the wiring done for the back dashcam?
Further models like 70mai510 has built in ADAS, while the car also has the same feature, will it cause issues while driving in terms of disturbance as both the tech can work differently at times or would it cause any interference in the working of the car.

Lastly anyone who has already installed especially in the New Creata can share the connectivity options opted, Brand & model they have gone for and any pros/cons.

Thanks in advance.

[esp33]

Originally Posted by GJGadget

After going through lot of reviews I am planning to go in for a dual dash cam instead of only the front side.

Looking for suggestions as to which brand would be better to go for within INR 10k to Max upto 15k.

For around 15k, you can get the red tiger F7NT, which is a decent 4k cam for the price. One of my colleagues got it and I liked the quality, even the night videos.

[kgt.v8]

Has anyone seen new Creta Knight editions in person?
Sales has no clue on details of knight edition interiors, especially whether the roof liner is white (like regular Creta) or black (like N-line). I was told that no knight edition deliveries have happened until now.

[Babayaga_g007]

Hello Everyone,

I'm in a conundrum. I have an old Honda City that has been in my family since 2011. It has clocked over 340,000 km now, and the engine is still going strong. However, it has only 2 years of validity left as it is DL registered, and the cabin looks dated. Additionally, since the suspension is shot, the ride is not very comfortable, and the fuel efficiency is only 7-8 km/l in the city.

I have been on the lookout for a new car for the past couple of months. The options I considered are all automatics since I’m tired of shifting gears in traffic:

- **Tata Nexon**
- **Mahindra XUV 3XO**

I also checked out some other cars like the Sonet, but they weren’t part of my consideration due to safety concerns and rear seating comfort.

**Tata Nexon**
I visited a couple of Tata showrooms, and I liked the Nexon's interior. The dealers were offering a good discount on the top models. I asked for a test drive of the automatic variants; they had a petrol on hand, and when I drove it, I could feel the gearbox wasn't smooth at all—there were a lot of jerks, and the horn of the test drive vehicle wasn't working, which was not confidence-inspiring. They also had a massive discount running on a 2023-manufactured top diesel automatic variant (~3 lakhs). I got a test drive of the diesel a couple of days later, and the gearbox was even more jerky as it was an AMT. I didn't like the drive at all, so I removed it from my consideration.

**XUV 3XO**
When I went to check out the 3XO at my nearby Mahindra showroom, the SA suggested the MX3 Pro AT variant, which I found to be a little lacking in features. I took a test drive of the manual variant, and while the clutch travel was a lot, the car was pretty smooth. After a discussion, I decided on the AX5L variant as it looked like the best value for money. However, I wasn’t going to book it before getting a test drive. I waited and waited, as there was only 1 AX5L variant for test drive in Pune, and the SA said they weren’t getting the vehicle for test drive for quite some time. After a week, I visited the showroom again to discuss a few other things and asked the dealer if he could arrange a test drive. He went to the showroom manager, and I think he made a few calls and managed to arrange a test drive for me in the next 20 minutes. I actually appreciated this gesture. I drove the vehicle around for 10 minutes, loved the smoothness of the engine, and the car's handling. So, I paid the booking amount, expecting an 8-week waiting period—this was on July 24.

Now it's the end of September, and I am still waiting for my car, with the dealer having no clue about its arrival. All this time has got me thinking: since this will be my first car with my own money, should I stretch my budget and get a car that is a segment above?

Cars I am considering now are:
1. **Honda Elevate**
2. **Kia Seltos/Hyundai Creta**

**Honda Elevate:**
I took a test drive of the Honda Elevate, but the engine was a bit noisy for my liking even at low speeds. So, I canceled this thought, although it was a good value package.

**Kia Seltos:**
I recently started looking at the Seltos after I learned about some discounts on 2023-manufactured cars. I took a test drive of the petrol turbo, and the engine was quite silent with a smooth ride. However, the fuel efficiency shown on the test drive vehicle was atrocious (around 7 km/l), which discouraged me a bit. Additionally, the dealer quoted me ₹30,000 for my Honda City (plus ₹40,000 bonus), which made me furious. Nevertheless, I contacted all the other Kia showrooms in Pune to ask if they had a 2023-manufactured automatic GTX and above variant, but none of them do.

As for the Hyundai Creta, I haven't done a test drive yet, but I inquired with my nearby Hyundai dealer and found that there are absolutely no discounts going on. Without discounts, only the S(O) Petrol IVT fits in my extended budget.

### My questions are:
1. Since there is no clarity on when I will get my booked XUV 3XO AX5L, and considering it’s my first car, should I just go ahead and shell out a little more for a Seltos or Creta?
2. My running isn’t much—daily office drives (~15 km round trip), and I expect to be running anywhere from 500-700 km a month on average. While I will be going on a few long rides in between, I wonder if getting a diesel makes sense. I actually enjoy seeing good mileage figures on the dash! The difference between the Seltos GTX diesel and petrol is just ₹40,000, while the delta on the Creta is much higher between the two engines in the S(O) trim—around ₹2 lakh. I’m curious how much money I’ll actually save or spend in the long term by choosing a diesel.
3. Both companies have made structural changes to their cars, but will these significantly impact the safety ratings?

Sorry for the long post! I'm really confused and don’t know what to do. Any input would be highly appreciated.

[Col Mehta]

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

Has anyone seen new Creta Knight editions in person?
Sales has no clue on details of knight edition interiors, especially whether the roof liner is white (like regular Creta) or black (like N-line). I was told that no knight edition deliveries have happened until now.

Not in person, but saw one YT video. The roof liner is definitely white.

[tornado82]

Originally Posted by GJGadget

Lastly anyone who has already installed especially in the New Creata can share the connectivity options opted, Brand & model they have gone for and any pros/cons.

I am using Viofo A119 Mini 2 (with the Sony Starvis 2 sensor) in my new Creta. Only front cam, got it through a friend from US. It costed around 9k including CPL filter. Wiring is through the 12v socket (USB), no hard wiring.

I had been using Viofo for the past 6-7 years, and really happy with it. So bought the upgraded version.

[Col Mehta]

Originally Posted by Babayaga_g007

I have been on the lookout for a new car for the past couple of months. The options I considered are all automatics since I’m tired of shifting gears in traffic:

Creta SXO IVT could be the best option for you with your limited running. Two things you might want to consider before that -

1. Unlike the turbo DCT, the NA IVT combo is a great performer in city traffic with no lag/jerks, it's just butter smooth and ever so easy to drive. But if you are looking for more power for highway runs, this may not be for you (do keep in mind that the NA IVT is not slow by any means, it offers more than adequate performance on open roads as well, but is not as much fun as the turbo DCT combo.

2. The interior quality and color theme may not excite you. The notorious center console is of a VERY cheap quality that makes a creaking noise everytime your knee/leg touches it. And it will happen a lot during your ownership cycle, and it will annoy you. The light grey interior theme looks dull (some will like it). Please spend some time inside the car to see if you are happy with it.

With your limited running, I'm not sure if I can recommend diesel. But if you think you can compensate it with frequent highway drives to clear DPF, then nothing beats the D AT combo with that butter smooth torque convertor transmission box. The BS 6 phase 2 engine does not feel as excited as BS6 phase 1, but it's still a great balance of power and good fuel efficiency.

[DivyanshuDiv]

Originally Posted by Babayaga_g007

Sorry for the long post! I'm really confused and don’t know what to do. Any input would be highly appreciated.

First of all, you can never go wrong with 1.5NA and MT/IVT of either a seltos or a creta. If you drive light footed, and uneager to press the pedal hard, you can extract good figures from between 13-15 in the city conditions, and around 20 on the highway. For me, the best I was able to extract was 21 on expressway. Nexon and 3XO are no match in terms of size, fit and finish, reliability and a fuss free ownership experience. As someone quoted, the diesel has some issues in the BS6.2 avatar, which is true, but it is not the case with everyone. Between Kia and Hyundai, go for the latter, it has a better tuned suspension as well as a more mature ride quality. And if you have the budget, then go for SX(O) of the Creta, as it offers all the bells and whistles. HTX IVT, the one which I own, a pre-facelift one, is nevertheless a very capable and VFM proposition.

[Babayaga_g007]

Originally Posted by Col Mehta

2. The interior quality and color theme may not excite you. The notorious center console is of a VERY cheap quality that makes a creaking noise everytime your knee/leg touches it. And it will happen a lot during your ownership cycle, and it will annoy you. The light grey interior theme looks dull (some will like it). Please spend some time inside the car to see if you are happy with it.

Ohh I thought the fit amd finish of the Creta was top notch, will check it out once I visit the showroom, Thanks!

Originally Posted by DivyanshuDiv

First of all, you can never go wrong with 1.5NA and MT/IVT of either a seltos or a creta. If you drive light footed, and uneager to press the pedal hard, you can extract good figures from between 13-15 in the city conditions, and around 20 on the highway. For me, the best I was able to extract was 21 on expressway. Nexon and 3XO are no match in terms of size, fit and finish, reliability and a fuss free ownership experience. As someone quoted, the diesel has some issues in the BS6.2 avatar, which is true, but it is not the case with everyone. Between Kia and Hyundai, go for the latter, it has a better tuned suspension as well as a more mature ride quality. And if you have the budget, then go for SX(O) of the Creta, as it offers all the bells and whistles. HTX IVT, the one which I own, a pre-facelift one, is nevertheless a very capable and VFM proposition.

Thank you for your inputs! The Max I can stretch is for an SX tech IVT in creta, is the Jump to SX(O) worth it?

[DivyanshuDiv]

Originally Posted by Babayaga_g007

Thank you for your inputs! The Max I can stretch is for an SX tech IVT in creta, is the Jump to SX(O) worth it?

We don't buy cars often, and sooner or later these flagship features will come down to mid variants, so getting the top of the line variant gives a sense of happiness and satisfaction. ADAS, 360○ camera, ventilation on seats, electric parking brakes are worth the investment. However, the choice of picking a variant and driving safely with care, is all in your hands. Trust me, if I have to pick between a seltos and creta, it has to be the Hyundai, and never a KIA again, based on my experience with the car, brand and ownership. Also, you get an option for 7 years extended warranty vs 5 on seltos.

[Caffeinated]

Originally Posted by Paritoshkalra

I have taken test drives of all the mid size SUVs available in the market in the range of 10 lakhs to 22 lakhs. Today evening I drive the Kia Seltos HTX IVT variant and I can conclude very easily that the CRETA wins the contest as far as the engine smoothness, NVH and ride quality is concerned. The overall aesthetics, color, look and feel of the Creta is more premium.
[/i]

Appreciate the detailed insights.
I assume you are talking about the Creta IVT. Did you get a chance to compare it against the Creta SX DCT for ride quality? I understand the suspension is tuned stiffer in the DCT version, and it's not as plush as the IVT. Happy to hear otherwise.

[esp33]

Originally Posted by Caffeinated

Appreciate the detailed insights.
I assume you are talking about the Creta IVT. Did you get a chance to compare it against the Creta SX DCT for ride quality? I understand the suspension is tuned stiffer in the DCT version, and it's not as plush as the IVT. Happy to hear otherwise.

I test drove the Creta DCT, IVT and the N-line variants. I felt the ride quality in the SxO DCT and IVT variants to be same, but the N-Line was really not comfortable on bad patches and bumps.

[satish.gawai]

Originally Posted by Babayaga_g007

Sorry for the long post! I'm really confused and don’t know what to do. Any input would be highly appreciated.

Hey Babayaga_g007,

I would suggest extending the budget a little and going for the SX(O) IVT. You will not regret it in the long run. Since you are using a car for a longer duration, you will not feel outdated in the next 5 years with SX(O). If I am not wrong SX(O) is costing somewhere around 22L on the road. I checked this with Garve Hyundai, Baner.

As suggested by @Col Mehta, IVT may not be fast & fun like DCT, but it is still the best one to buy for perfect city rides and occasional highway trips.
Since you are habitual to see the good mileage figures on MID, DCT will shock you if you paddle it aggressively.

Looking at your use case diesel is not for you.

Do let us know your final purchase and share your experience.

All the best.