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Old 6th May 2024, 07:35   #61
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

Gurkha does not have central differential, so center is always locked.
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If your car offers differential locks, center is first lock to be engaged. If you don't have center lock option, center is always locked.

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Old 6th May 2024, 08:17   #62
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

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Gurkha does not have central differential, so center is always locked.
Ok, this looks like a full-time transfer case. This video is very good at explaining. Can skip to 9 sec.


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Old 6th May 2024, 11:25   #63
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

If it had a center diff you would have been able to use 4H at higher speeds, like the Pajero SFX. You would also have a separate center lock on/off switch or as part of the transfer case shift lever. It would also add to the cost so this is no different from the Thar/Jimny. I don't think you can realistically expect a open center diff with center diff lock in this price range.
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Old 7th May 2024, 00:03   #64
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Isn't this what Maruti and many other manufacturers do? Gurkha is probably missing a dedicated hill descent control where you can set the speed of descent.
Putting in 4L does mechanically restrict the speed by a quite a bit. But HDC brings it down further. At least in the video, it does look like it does that. It may not be programmable HDC (is that even the right name for it?) but it does look like it had some sort of HDC. But yeah, I don't see it having hill hold assist though. I think the slope wasn't really steep enough to know how well it works. Hopefully we'll know more when they do the full road test.


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I don't see any central differential lock control. Since Gurkha has a 4x4 high mode, a central differential is a must. So there should be one albeit not lockable.

This article explains nicely. Check point 3 and the explanation by the Audi engineer.

https://carnity.com/forums/topic/167...ont-explained/

Thanks for the links. Though I do have a rough idea about how they work and what they do, its mostly just a rough idea. The article does explain it detail.

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Gurkha does not have central differential, so center is always locked.
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If your car offers differential locks, center is first lock to be engaged. If you don't have center lock option, center is always locked.

Prashant's video
https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=2y-5kDDS-K8
Thanks for clearing that up. So its not really a feature per se, no? So isn't what Sirish said actually misleading? In reality It gets a locked center diff and two lockable differentials like the 2021 and older models, right?

On a side note, your comprehensive ownership review and meticulous work in fixing, and improving your Gurkha is an absolute treat to read.
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Old 7th May 2024, 15:28   #65
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

Mysterious are the ways of Force Motors and the marketing team in particular. On Instagram, Force announced a booking amount of Rs 25,000.00 to book the 2024 Gurkha.

However, this information doesn't appear to have been communicated to the dealers or at least the dealer in Secunderabad, who is demanding Rs 50,000.00, payable to the dealer. Hardly surprising that the Gurkha is a niche product.
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........ However, this information doesn't appear to have been communicated to the dealers or at least the dealer in Secunderabad, who is demanding Rs 50,000.00, payable to the dealer. Hardly surprising that the Gurkha is a niche product.
For the record, the dealer has agreed to accept Rs 25,000.00, after the Instagram post of Force Gurkha was shared.

Apparently, the dealer normally collects Rs 50,000.00 for a booking and hence quoted the same amount for the Gurkha.

Seems the memo didn't reach the dealers......
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Old 9th May 2024, 08:46   #67
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

I had a telephonic conversation with the force dealer here in Gurgaon. They told me that the test drive/ display vehicles will be available after 12th May and the booking is open. They have confirmed the booking amount to be Rs 25000. No information was given on the bookings received. Overall the person on phone was very courteous.

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Old 13th May 2024, 15:47   #68
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

I have been meaning to ask people who have seen both the new Gurkha and the Urbania in person, I personally felt the Urbania had much better finished dashboard (fit and finish wise). I haven't seen the new one yet though. I know that they cater to very different clientele, but it surprises me that a commercial vehicle has a better fit and finish than a vehicle aimed primarily at private buyers.
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I know that they cater to very different clientele, but it surprises me that a commercial vehicle has a better fit and finish than a vehicle aimed primarily at private buyers.
It's simple, FM wants premium customers to buy the Urbania. The customers can be big travel companies, 5 star hotels etc. Fm even went ahead and invited Urbania owners to their plant at Pithampur to show them how the Urbania is made, this shows how serious they are.
The Urbania, like the Traveller has close to zero competition in the market.
One of the most useful feature (which they could have included in the new Gurkha) that i found on the Urbania is the battery isolation switch, you no longer need to remove the battery terminal when you plan to keep the vehicle unused for a long time.
Meanwhile, Gurkha is a niche product which only a few people would buy. It isnt a practical vehicle to live it. I need to check the height of the underground parkings if i need to park my Gurkha in one of them, most of time i park at the loading/unloading bays of the mall.
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It's simple, FM wants premium customers to buy the Urbania.
I understand that part and I agree that Urbania is a premium product. So Is Gurkha compared to the Trax lineup, right? They have pretty much used the same parts and if I am not wrong, very similar quality too. I was hoping that after Urbania, the new Gurkha would get a very noticeable bump in quality, mostly in fit and finish department than quality alone. But that hasn't happened.


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Meanwhile, Gurkha is a niche product which only a few people would buy.
Again, I agree. But wouldn't improving interior fit/finish have made it appealing to a larger chunk of the market? Unless of course Force themselves didn't want too many interested in the vehicle.


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One of the most useful feature (which they could have included in the new Gurkha) that i found on the Urbania is the battery isolation switch, you no longer need to remove the battery terminal when you plan to keep the vehicle unused for a long time.
Again, a missed opportunity I feel.
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

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Meanwhile, Gurkha is a niche product which only a few people would buy. It isnt a practical vehicle to live it. I need to check the height of the underground parkings if i need to park my Gurkha in one of them, most of time i park at the loading/unloading bays of the mall.
Quoting on the fit and finish of the 2024 Gurkha, as compared to my 2014 Thar CRDe.

First Impressions;

1. After using the Thar CRDe for over 10 years, the interiors of the Gurkha feels like I have upgraded to the luxury segment of the 4x4 market.

2. Seats and Lumbar support are awesome.

3. Gear Throws and Shifting is butter smooth as compared to the CRDe.

4. Door and the Body Panels gives you a sense of protection inside.

5. Lacks power!!

6. The Gurkha because of the door and body panels, gives me a peace of mind that this is not a leaking rust bucket.

Ps. Does anybody know if K&N or BMC have after market air filters for 2024 Gurkha.
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

For someone who has to travel through horrible broken roads with lots of mud and huge potholes filled with water nearly upto 6-8 inches in rural areas, which one would you guys recommend if it came to Thar and Gurkha (3 door)?
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If it had a center diff you would have been able to use 4H at higher speeds, like the Pajero SFX. You would also have a separate center lock on/off switch or as part of the transfer case shift lever. It would also add to the cost so this is no different from the Thar/Jimny. I don't think you can realistically expect a open center diff with center diff lock in this price range.
gsferrari sir, growing up reading your posts its a dream come true replying to you on this prestigious forum! I have a question for you, if the gurkha had better aftersales and a no niggle experience like jimny, just looking at 2 cars and how they drive which one would you choose the jimmy or the gurkha 3 door? Asking because i am a 6ft2 heavy guy and have share exactly the same views towards jimny like you have but its very uncomfortable for me, and the gurkha 3 door is looking like a really good proposition.
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gsferrari sir, growing up reading your posts its a dream come true replying to you on this prestigious forum! I have a question for you, if the gurkha had better aftersales and a no niggle experience like jimny, just looking at 2 cars and how they drive which one would you choose the jimmy or the gurkha 3 door? Asking because i am a 6ft2 heavy guy and have share exactly the same views towards jimny like you have but its very uncomfortable for me, and the gurkha 3 door is looking like a really good proposition.

Personally, I will still pick the Jimny over the Gurkha stock vs stock. The Gurkha feels like a missed opportunity and they missed by a country mile.

You will need to modify the Gurkha quite significantly to be comfortable behind the wheel. Legroom is cramped and there is no room for the right knee between the steering wheel and door pad. You have to do some lego-giri with the seats to achieve the right fit.

I think you need to plan to spend 1/2 day at Force Motors and another half at Nexa to just sit behind the wheel, making "vroom vroom" noises for a few hours and see how each car feels. Explore the interiors, see what works and what doesn't. I wish automotive journalists get that kind of time but the manufacturer strategy is always to minimise wheel time because they want to use the journalists to hype the product, not to delivery an accurate review. I tried my best but your mileage may vary when you see the car in person. I cannot overstate the importance of experiencing these cars first hand and for an extended period of time.

All the best, let me know which way you choose to lean.
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Old 11th June 2024, 13:16   #75
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Re: 2024 Force Gurkha 5-Door Review

Has anybody done the test drive yet?? Reviews talk about issue with the braking. Feeble brake bite and coming late. Massive vehicle like this needs disc brakes on rear too. As the power has also gone up the brakes would have been upgraded also. Any insight please??
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