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Old 3rd February 2025, 12:41   #136
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Kia Syros records 5,500 dispatches in first month

Bookings for the Kia Syros opened on January 3, 2025. The carmaker already has over 10,000 orders for the compact SUV, and it has dispatched around 5,500 vehicles in the first month alone.

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The Kia Syros is available in four trims: HTK, HTK+, HTX and HTX+ with prices ranging from Rs 8,99,900, and Rs 16,99,900 (ex-showroom).

The Syros gets sliding and reclining rear seats and segment-first ventilated front and rear seats. It also offers features such as a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster, a 12.3-inch touchscreen a panoramic sunroof, wireless charging, and Level 2 ADAS.

The Kia Syros is available with two engine options. There is a 1.0-litre turbo-petrol unit that produces 118 BHP and 172 Nm. It is paired with a 6-speed manual and a 7-speed DCT. Customers can also opt for a 1.5-litre diesel that puts out 114 BHP and 250 Nm. This engine is offered with a 6-speed manual and a 6-speed automatic.

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RANT warning.

Looking at the price range, do people realize the amount of money going directly into the coffers of KIA when they buy a top of the line variant?

One's money should go towards betterment of the actual vehicular experience. A bunch of nice to have features, which rarely get used, at such a premium? You can literally buy another VFM Syros instead of the top trim one.

For anyone wondering what my definition of vehicular experience is:

1. Driving experience (ride and handling)
2. Touring comfort
3. Cost of running
4. Passanger/Cargo capacity
5. Safety
6. Road presence
7. Lighting

Let me put it this way, At this price point (top trim), they could have offered a hybrid powertrain.

Consumerism is consuming us. Buy a 11-12 lakh car or a 22 lakh gadget thats not really your money's worth; 20 years ago the choice was obvious.
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Old 3rd February 2025, 12:51   #138
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Kia Syros records 5,500 bookings in first month
Kia had got more than 10K+ pre-orders for the Syros when the bookings were started. Launching the top-variants at Stratosphere-level pricing resulted in (continued below)

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Kia Syros Garners More Than 10,000 Pre-Bookings Ahead Of Public Display At Auto Expo 2025.
More than 4,500 bookings cancelled! This shows that Indian customers want features and value for money pricing together .

Will this turn out to be a niche product for Kia?

OT: Can we expect a price cut soon?

Edit: I feel Kia has purposely priced the Syros top variant 20L+ so that customers take a look at Seltos also, whose sales have been declining from the past one year. Maybe, who knows?

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Old 3rd February 2025, 13:16   #139
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One thing is very certain. Indian Public is very well-informed about buying in the 12-20L category. No amount of publicity, skewed data, dealer dispatch dump, or influencer reach can help you make any car successful if the common man does not see value for money. The same goes the other way around - No amount of negative publicity can stop any car when the common man is impressed with it.

Coming to Syros, I feel 60 - 70 % of people who are planning to buy this are already OK with the safety/ crash rating results assuming they were planning to buy MSIL, Hyundai / Kia cars in the first place. The rest 30% will be already looking at TATA, Mahindra and Skoda/VW. So, when it comes to the 70%, the biggest lookout for prospective customers is the features and boy Kia has loaded Syros to the hilt. Forget Venue/Sonet, even Creta/Seltos/Carens customers will feel jealous. I feel Syros will attract numbers from all these cars and have healthy monthly numbers.

Yes, the top-end versions are heavily overpriced. But those who walk away from those versions are going to end up taking other cars from Hyundai/Kia itself. So at the end of the day, Hyundai/KIA will not bother.

PS: Kia has never gone wrong with pricing when it comes to customer acceptance. Even when they jumped segments for Kia Carnival, they ended up having backlogs of delivery. So this is going to be interesting few months for Kia.
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It seems Kia is pricing the Syros with the weakening Indian rupee in mind, as it's projected to fall below 100 this year. The high prices are otherwise hard to explain. Aesthetically, the Syros resembles an enlarged Exeter, its proportions seem way off.
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Food for thought : One can actually buy 2 cars of the base version of Syros with the price of the top end version!!
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Pretty close to my guesses.
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I guess it will settle at around 5000-6000 units.
I guess the Indian consumers realised that they can get 2 base models for the price of 1 top model. Though I find the pricing to be just around okay, the aam junta won't find it too pleasing.

I mean 21 lakhs on road, for a car with such hideous looks? Seriously? What was Kia even thinking?

P.S. I can see an increase in the sales of the Sonet and Seltos already .
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I am very confused. I was almost certain that I can pick HTX Manual variant for 12.5L to 12.75L ex.showroom so I can get it around 15L On Road price (excluding insurance). Now since HTX is out that budget, am seriously thinking should I shift to HTK Plus Automatic or again start from search from the beginning.

My requirements were 60% city and 40% Highways, easy and comfort ride for senior citizen parents and kids in the rear and decent boot space for travels. Not drive enthusiast prefers light footed drives and likes to have useful features in the car.

Checked the cars last year before Syros launch

Sonet - Ride was good but felt the rear seat was not very comfortable.
Venue - Ride was nice nut felt the rear seat was okay compared to Sonet.
3XO - Felt ride was great but rear was spacious but the boot felt smaller and similar to a i10 hatchback.
TATA - Not preferred due to service related issues faced by my cousins.
i20 - Ride was great and rear was spacious and can get the top variant within the budget - felt it VFM.
Verna - Same as i20 but don't want 4+m vehicle due to parking issues in city.
Syors - Looks was not attractive, rear space was amazing with useful features and felt the ride was okay as well. Booked thinking the launch price may be attractive at least for prebooked customers :P
Kylaq - Did not see but

But now since the prices are not attractive, the looks and crash ratings of K1 platform is kind of worrying me to consider HTK Plus even. Many in my situation will go for Venue/Sonet or 3XO compromising the rear space or boot space.
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For not too much more money over the top end Syros Diesel AT, you could buy a Pack 2 BE6 59.

A car which no GRAP regulations can stop
A car which no odd-even can stop
A car that no court/NGT order can take away after 10/15 years (so longer life)
A car that has twice the horsepower of the Syros
A car that has no DPF issues with working continuously in the city
A car that will be cheaper to run than an Activa / Splendor

What we do know now is that the Pack 1 BE6 59 is cheaper than the cheapest Syros Diesel AT in states with no EV Road Tax below 20 lakh.
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I am very confused. I was almost certain that I can pick HTX Manual variant for 12.5L to 12.75L ex.showroom so I can get it around 15L On Road price (excluding insurance). Now since HTX is out that budget, am seriously thinking should I shift to HTK Plus Automatic or again start from search from the beginning.
Check the differences between the variants and if you are okay with losing some features which can be fitted aftermarket or as an accessory you can go with a lower variant.

BTW, I was checking with my SA regarding the on-road price, test drive availability and tentative delivery dates and he did not give me a solid answer saying internal discussions are going on and will update me today. I guess the cancelled and changed bookings might be having an impact internally though I wouldn't keep my hopes up.
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For not too much more money over the top end Syros Diesel AT, you could buy a Pack 2 BE6 59.

A car which no GRAP regulations can stop
A car which no odd-even can stop
A car that no court/NGT order can take away after 10/15 years (so longer life)
A car that has twice the horsepower of the Syros
A car that has no DPF issues with working continuously in the city
A car that will be cheaper to run than an Activa / Splendor

What we do know now is that the Pack 1 BE6 59 is cheaper than the cheapest Syros Diesel AT in states with no EV Road Tax below 20 lakh.
Wholeheartedly agree. A BE6 will make a lot of sense for the money.

But I won't discount our government just yet . Today it's petrol and diesel, tomorrow could just as easily be EVs. I'm sure they would keep finding ways to squeeze every last penny from the easiest target - us, the car owners.
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Check the differences between the variants and if you are okay with losing some features which can be fitted aftermarket or as an accessory you can go with a lower variant.

BTW, I was checking with my SA regarding the on-road price, test drive availability and tentative delivery dates and he did not give me a solid answer saying internal discussions are going on and will update me today. I guess the cancelled and changed bookings might be having an impact internally though I wouldn't keep my hopes up.
Last week when I talked to the SA, he said the deliveries will start commencing probably from 1st week of March. Infact since I pre booked, I got the vehicle allotment email also from KIA on 31st Jan itself.
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I was expecting this pricing to make Brezza look VFM. Didn't expect it to make Creta VFM though. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to choose this over Creta. Just saw this today in flesh and i think by its side the Exter should look absolutely stunning. This looked like some kind of edgy electric car designed by a start up and the design lacks flair and cohesion of a mature product.
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I seriously don't understand car pricing be it kia or anyone for that matter.

How can same car from same company cost 10L and 20L at the same time ?

I understand fancy addons, features command a price and it makes sense to choose to add them and pay accordingly, but no point should this end up doubling the price.

To me any car base to top variance should be a maximum of 20% and not more.

No doubt Karol Bagh, JC Road accessory stores advertise base to top for 50K only and able to do business and save 3-4 lac rupees to the customer though with a compromise on quality fit and finish, but still working.
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While waiting for a friend to arrive, I decided to walk-in to the Kia showroom across the road to kill some time. Credit where it's due: Kia put a lot of effort into packaging the car. They somehow liberated a ton of space within a compact body - reminded me of Honda philosophy of yester years - Man maximum, Machine minimum.

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Forget Venue/Sonet, even Creta/Seltos/Carens customers will feel jealous
I own a Carens, and I do not know what to feel about the Syros. If I were to buy a sub 4m car today, I might consider one I thought - until the SA showed me the price sheet with on road prices. I purchased my Carens Prestige Plus Diesel Manual in 2022 for 16.03 L on-road (16.5 including extended warranty, accessories). I simply cannot wrap my head around the pricing. I fail to understand why the Syros costs as much as it does, especially the top variants. Sure, it is loaded to the brim with features, but even then, I did not get why someone would skip the Seltos/Creta over this. May be the prospective buyer finds value in the Syros which I fail to see, especially with the current pricing.
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