[Ashy1112]

Originally Posted by BoxBox

This is what I had mentioned in my post in Dec 2024.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post5896802 (Kia Syros: The company's third SUV to slot in between the Sonet & Seltos)

Kia would have to come up with some sort of update with this pretty soon.

Don't think KIA will update this anytime soon, if they do so, it's a outright acceptance of their design flaw. May be donot in their facelift in 2026 or 2027.

[Sebring]

Originally Posted by BoxBox

This is what I had mentioned in my post in Dec 2024:Also, hope that the rear turn indicators are integrated into the tail lights on the rear windscreen rather than the tail lights below as it would be very difficult to see when you are driving behind and are a bit closer.2 (Kia Syros: The company's third SUV to slot in between the Sonet & Seltos)

I would get the turn indicators incorporated into the tail lights (above),
from outside, from an independent garage.

Or even a roof mounted one.

This is design fail.

[Bombastic]

Another design fail in my eye would be the clash between the squarish wheel cladding vs the roundness of the tires. While this works well for other models, it just looks cheap here because of the mass of the black cladding. They would have streamlined this by following the outline of the tires, even making it a squircle would automatically reduce the bulkiness.

[Ashy1112]

Originally Posted by Bombastic

Another design fail in my eye would be the clash between the squarish wheel cladding vs the roundness of the tires. While this works well for other models, it just looks cheap here because of the mass of the black cladding. They would have streamlined this by following the outline of the tires, even making it a squircle would automatically reduce the bulkiness.

I agree, the design concept seems to be square or rectangle everywhere so no roundness for wheel cladding. It kind of looks odd, but to some extent it is not prominent in dark color Syros though.

[Ashy1112]

Syros price has increased by 30k to 50k in the lower variance HTK and HTX. Impact of 5 star rating I guess.

[switz]

Anyone have the CRDi model, what's the mileage on that?

Thanks.

[anilntny]

Originally Posted by switz

Anyone have the CRDi model, what's the mileage on that?

Thanks.

Manual transmission is giving 16 to 18 kmpl.

[Ashy1112]

Originally Posted by anilntny

Manual transmission is giving 16 to 18 kmpl.

Highways? City or combined?

[anilntny]

Originally Posted by Ashy1112

Highways? City or combined?

Combined figure only. Worst case, you will get close to 15 kmpl. It is a very good engine in terms of power, torque and fuel efficiency.

[switz]

Have the prices gone up ?

[PaddleShifter]

Originally Posted by switz

Have the prices gone up ?

Some context or more information would have been helpful, dear brother. A price hike of 3% was reported w.e.f. 01-April-2025.

https://www.ndtv.com/auto/kia-sonet-...-month-7952008

[Ashy1112]

Originally Posted by PaddleShifter

Some context or more information would have been helpful, dear brother. A price hike of 3% was reported w.e.f. 01-April-2025.

https://www.ndtv.com/auto/kia-sonet-...-month-7952008

Base HTK variants increased by 50k. HTK, HTK(o), HTK+ and HTX increased by 30k. No change in Top variant. This is what my SA informed me.

[Staraptor]

This might be very obvious to some, and mind boggling to others, but like for like, the price we pay to Kia (ex-factory) for the Syros vs the Seltos is VERY similar.

Here's how:

a) Sub 4m Diesel cars with <1.5L engines have total tax of 31% (28% GST+ 3% compensation cess)- This is where the Syros lies.

b) Cars >4m but engine capacity <1.5L have total tax of 45% (17% compensation cess)- the Seltos.

Now, comparing the GTX+ Diesel AT Seltos (19.99L)v/s the HTX+ (O) Diesel AT Syros (17.80L)

a) Ex-factory price of the Seltos is 13.79L

b) Ex factory of the Syros is 13.59L.

Therefore, there's JUST a 20k difference in both the cars!

If we come to the petrol, the Syros will have a 29% GST (1% cess for sub 4m cars)

a) Ex factory of the Seltos stays the same at 13.79L (ex-sh: 19.99L)
b) Ex factory price of the Syros is 13.02L (ex-sh: 16.8L)

Therefore, there's a 77k difference. But mind you! The engine is a 1L 3 cylinder, v/s a 1.5L 4 cylinder.


All in all, Kia definitely seems to have a higher margin on the Syros, v/s the Seltos.

[Ashy1112]

Originally Posted by Staraptor

This might be very obvious to some, and mind boggling to others, but like for like, the price we pay to Kia (ex-factory) for the Syros vs the Seltos is VERY similar.

Here's how:

a) Sub 4m Diesel cars with <1.5L engines have total tax of 31% (28% GST+ 3% compensation cess)- This is where the Syros lies.

b) Cars >4m but engine capacity <1.5L have total tax of 45% (17% compensation cess)- the Seltos.

Now, comparing the GTX+ Diesel AT Seltos (19.99L)v/s the HTX+ (O) Diesel AT Syros (17.80L)

a) Ex-factory price of the Seltos is 13.79L

b) Ex factory of the Syros is 13.59L.

Therefore, there's JUST a 20k difference in both the cars!

If we come to the petrol, the Syros will have a 29% GST (1% cess for sub 4m cars)

a) Ex factory of the Seltos stays the same at 13.79L (ex-sh: 19.99L)
b) Ex factory price of the Syros is 13.02L (ex-sh: 16.8L)

Therefore, there's a 77k difference. But mind you! The engine is a 1L 3 cylinder, v/s a 1.5L 4 cylinder.


All in all, Kia definitely seems to have a higher margin on the Syros, v/s the Seltos.

The sales isn't great, KIA trying milk on the 5 star rating hype now. During the festive season the truth will come out.

[CarguyNish]

Autocar has tested the Real World Fuel Efficiency of Kia Syros.

The numbers are

Petrol MT
City : 9.10 kmpl
Highway : 12.60 kmpl

Petrol DCT
City : 8.30 kmpl
Highway : 11.50 kmpl

Diesel AT
City : 10.80
Highway : 13.60

Is the boxy shape to be blamed for such low numbers? This car doesn't seem to be moving at the moment. I hardly see them on roads.

Petrol are always thirsty, I can accept it but the Diesel AT figures are lower compared to other cars. Heck, it's numbers are similar to what I get from my Hycross Petrol (Non Hybrid) with full load. BS6 Cars just don't seem to be as efficient as BS4 were.

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