[gowda79]

Originally Posted by madhu33

Quoting my post from the other thread for the benefit of fellow Manza owners
looking at changing the tyres:

Goodyear tyres are known for being noisy and they are hard tyres and will run for longer time.

[sreerknair]

Originally Posted by power ranger

straight line stability Manza offered. I am telling this inspite of driving some of the big German names in Germany !!

Manza was fantastic at high speeds and could even touch upto 160 km/hr and still hold its own in terms of stability !!

Hi power ranger and Madhu, I too own a Manza but I am surprised to hear that the Manza offers great stability at high speeds. I am really really afraid to take that car beyond 90 KM/Hr even on straight roads. At that speed I feel the car behaves like a boat. Even when overtaking and changing lanes at that speed on a straight road I can feel the body roll. Do all who owns or drove a Manza in this forum feel the car is great at high speeds? If so, I need to check my car's suspension. Any suggestions?

[torquecurve]

Originally Posted by sreerknair

Hi power ranger and Madhu, I too own a Manza but I am surprised to hear that the Manza offers great stability at high speeds. I am really really afraid to take that car beyond 90 KM/Hr even on straight roads. At that speed I feel the car behaves like a boat. Even when overtaking and changing lanes at that speed on a straight road I can feel the body roll. Do all who owns or drove a Manza in this forum feel the car is great at high speeds? If so, I need to check my car's suspension. Any suggestions?

Though discussions on speeding and speed in general are forbidden on the forum, I have done decent highway speeds in the Manza. It does have this ability to make you feel a bit nervous, but nothing much, the steering is very well calibrated. Extremely stable at 110-120 kmph as well. I have driven an Avenger and Mazda 3 when in the US, and this is comparable to it in driving dynamics. Pretty comfortable to boot. It does feel better when it is a bit loaded though.

[sathish81]

Originally Posted by sreerknair

Hi power ranger and Madhu, I too own a Manza but I am surprised to hear that the Manza offers great stability at high speeds. I am really really afraid to take that car beyond 90 KM/Hr even on straight roads.

Hi!I have a 2010 manza with 50k+ on the odo. I have never felt stability to be an issue (agreed car has numerous other minor quirks). I average at about 120kph on highways - the car feels very stable. I am guessing you might not have replaced the anti roll bar bush and that is the reason car feels like boat. Tata issued a recall for this few years ago for few batches of manza (mine was one of affected ones). You might want to talk to Tata A.S.S about this issue you are facing.

[anilp]

Originally Posted by sreerknair

straight road I can feel the body roll. Do all who owns or drove a Manza in this forum feel the car is great at high speeds? If so, I need to check my car's suspension. Any suggestions?

No way. Manza is brilliant at highway speeds. Get your suspension checked.

[sreerknair]

Originally Posted by torquecurve

Extremely stable at 110-120 kmph as well. I have driven an Avenger and Mazda 3 when in the US, and this is comparable to it in driving dynamics. Pretty comfortable to boot. It does feel better when it is a bit loaded though.

Originally Posted by sathish81

I am guessing you might not have replaced the anti roll bar bush and that is the reason car feels like boat. Tata issued a recall for this few years ago for few batches of manza (mine was one of affected ones).

Originally Posted by anilp

No way. Manza is brilliant at highway speeds. Get your suspension checked.

Thanks guys. While the recall was on, during a regular service I had checked with TASS on the anti roll bar bush. And after the service the SA mentioned that it is replaced. Damn, the only thing I hate in Manza is this boat like ride. Seems it was only in my car and I could have addressed it earlier. I will take it to TASS soon.

[madhu33]

Originally Posted by madhu33

Driving the Manza for 4 years .-56000kms done so far
Yesterday have switched the tyres to Goodyear Duraplus 185-60 R15.
Cost Rs 4150/-
(per tyre including new valves , fitting alignment and balancing + weights. )
Tyre Shop : Straighline - Mr Trevor -Santacruz Mumbai
.

Correction in my above post.
The Good year Duraplus - 185-60-R15 costed me Rs3750/- per tyre and not 4150/- per tyre.

[Viper21]

Hello guys .. Did tata issue a soft recall or something like that for the anti rollbar? How can I check if I can avail that?

[hyd_traveller]

Originally Posted by Viper21

Hello guys .. Did tata issue a soft recall or something like that for the anti rollbar? How can I check if I can avail that?

The ASS were supposed to replace during regular service. Owners were not informed.

[Viper21]

Yeah that's the issue. Let me write an email and check it out. Thanks as always....

[Dr.Suraj]

The Anti-roll bar bush - was replaced FOC by all service centres!

Wonder how you missed it.

That MUST be the issue - because I have never faced any issue with the ride quality in the Manza & have never heard anyone else complaining either.

Not promoting high speeds or rash driving - but I have been on 300+ km trips regularly - especially Pune Expressway in sufficiently high triple digit speeds - many times with FULL 5 adults and full boot - never face and such roll.
Neither have any of the different occupants ever complained. In fact there used to be arguments over who would get to sit in the Manza - as they preferred it over the WagonR or Verna (the other 2 vehicles usually part of the trip).


Tyres:

Recently upgraded to Bridgestone Turanza AR20 - 195/65 R15.

Noticed a drop of 0.8 kmpl in the average.
But - ride quality and braking have improved noticeably.

No brushing while turning or touching over speed breakers.

[directinjection]

Originally Posted by Dr.Suraj

Tyres:

Recently upgraded to Bridgestone Turanza AR20 - 195/65 R15.

Noticed a drop of 0.8 kmpl in the average.
But - ride quality and braking have improved noticeably.

No brushing while turning or touching over speed breakers.

You have up-sized massively - tyre circumference over the original size (175/65/14) exceeds by 8% . It is generally considered advisable to keep it within 3%.

Did you take the speedo and odo error into account while calculating your mileage? With bigger circumference, the wheels rotate fewer number of times, giving less than actual speed and odo readings.

[Dr.Suraj]

Originally Posted by directinjection

You have up-sized massively - tyre circumference over the original size (175/65/14) exceeds by 8% . It is generally considered advisable to keep it within 3%.
.

The original tyre size is / was 185/65 R15.
Honda City comes with skinny 175 - just to prove the claimed FE figures.
Manza always came with 185.

& the speedo 'error' gets corrected as reported by many on this thread.

Details + pics here.

[directinjection]

Originally Posted by Dr.Suraj

The original tyre size is / was 185/65 R15.

My bad! Confused Manza with Marina! Enjoy the ride!

[Dr.Suraj]

Originally Posted by directinjection

My bad! Confused Manza with Marina! Enjoy the ride!

No issues.

Your post actually made me go back and re-check !


Thank you for the concern and right advise