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Old 28th January 2011, 21:45   #1651
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Re: Chevrolet Beat : Test Drive & Review

Well I guess I'm used to seeing engine changes and upgrades made on models not less than 2-3 years old. Just about one year after launch is new to me. Well, I hope my non-local made engine proves to be better than the new one.
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Well I guess I'm used to seeing engine changes and upgrades made on models not less than 2-3 years old. Just about one year after launch is new to me. Well, I hope my non-local made engine proves to be better than the new one.

suppose we have to accept the inevitable . The local made engine will come with its own set of problems in the initial days. The thing to look forward to is the gas version and the diesel version as this will put the beat into the desirable engine options category.
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Old 29th January 2011, 16:11   #1653
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suppose we have to accept the inevitable . The local made engine will come with its own set of problems in the initial days. The thing to look forward to is the gas version and the diesel version as this will put the beat into the desirable engine options category.
+1 to that, the current fuel prices drives me crazy just because I bought a petrol car. I hope GM will come forward with a retro fit LPG kit for the initial batches. After market kits are not reliable and refined am very keen on GM's future plans on LPG christening as thats the only hope to deal with the increasing fuel prices.
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Old 29th January 2011, 20:28   #1654
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Re: Chevrolet Beat : Test Drive & Review

Sorry for going offtopic, but as I see it, petrol prices are heading towards Rs80 soon ( in about 6-7 months), based on crude price forecasts. At that price, I'm going to be looking at selling off my car or leaving it in the cold storage paying EMIs on it. I should have bought a diesel :(
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Re: Chevrolet Beat : Test Drive & Review

Lot of discussion has been going on the new Smartech II Engine of Beat.
The Features of New SMARTECH II Engine are:
- Vacuum activated Port deactivation that improves low-end torque and provides refined idling for improved fuel economy in city
- 16 valve DOHC engine that produces 80.5PS of power and 108Nm of torque
- Inverted tooth timing chain design makes for silent operation
- Aluminium alloy engine head which is lighter and aids cooling
- Pistons are lighter and coated with anti-friction material
- Fractured type connecting rod is lighter and operates better
- Crankshaft is equipped with 8 balancer shafts
- Epoxy coated cylinder block is anti-corrosive
- Stainless steel core plugs..
The existing engine have all these features, there is no difference in the existing engine and the new engine. The only difference is that the engine now gets new tunning (New ECM Setting) suitable for Indian Driving Conditions. I suppose all the existing owners can also opt for this New ECM Setting.
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A great way to depreciate my car's resale value, Chevy is coming out with a new and "improved" engine for the Beat (among other cars): Breaking: Chevrolet Beat to come with


Sometimes I feel I bought my car at a very wrong time: high fuel prices, not my color of choice (would have liked the gray), bought at a higher price even without the 3 year maintenance plan and now the engine upgrade..

Anybody dig a 6 month old Black BEAT ?
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Ouch! this hurts the resale quiet heavily! And I have the same grouse of no maintanence free plan and the grey!

I wish GM had waited another year at least! an engine upgrade just after a year of launch! this sucks! Hopefully GM wont tinker on the look bit~!
Don't get disheartened. With all due respect to GM Marketing, I do not think "New Engine" is so much differentiated with Old Engine. It might just turn out to be a marketing gimmick for Chevy's changes to transmission and engine to tackle the pickup issue.

If only someone can post the snaps of Old Engine and New engine, it would prove beneficial.

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The existing engine have all these features, there is no difference in the existing engine and the new engine. The only difference is that the engine now gets new tunning (New ECM Setting) suitable for Indian Driving Conditions. I suppose all the existing owners can also opt for this New ECM Setting.


Absolutely, same thoughts here. Current/Old Customers should feel happy, they have been using world Class "Imported Engines" which are being used to European countries as well.

For one, I Remember the Yamaha RX100 Byke. The old pre-1988 manufactured bykes which came with Imported Engine always used to be sold at higher prices in second hand markets than the one fitted with locally manufactured engines. Simply because having an imported engine gave it higher credentials.

Someone pls post the snaps of two engines on the forum?

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+1 to that, the current fuel prices drives me crazy just because I bought a petrol car. I hope GM will come forward with a retro fit LPG kit for the initial batches. After market kits are not reliable and refined am very keen on GM's future plans on LPG christening as thats the only hope to deal with the increasing fuel prices.
I still like Petrol as an Option. Simply because if the petrol/Diesel prices go up too much, I can always upgrade my petrol vehicle to CNG from an after-market fitments. I wont be able to do the same in a Diesel vehicle you see .

Just for your Information, Petrol and Diesel prices are more directly related to Crude prices while CNG is not. Hence, the prices of CNG wont move in same directions and as fast as Petro/Diesel.
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I still like Petrol as an Option. Simply because if the petrol/Diesel prices go up too much, I can always upgrade my petrol vehicle to CNG from an after-market fitments. I wont be able to do the same in a Diesel vehicle you see .

Just for your Information, Petrol and Diesel prices are more directly related to Crude prices while CNG is not. Hence, the prices of CNG wont move in same directions and as fast as Petro/Diesel.
Diesel is a better option if you consider all aspects of the petrol(with LPG / CNG) vs diesel: my 2 bits are below:

upgrading to CNG will cost around 40k(approx)

fuel efficiency on CNG is lesser than what you get on petrol. Power loss is obvious.

Diesel engines of today are very drivable and have superior efficiency compared to a similar specced petrol engine.

and upgrade to CNG will also reduce the resalablity of the vehicle.

plus you get to keep you boot space in diesel.

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Old 1st February 2011, 16:37   #1659
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Re: Chevrolet Beat : Test Drive & Review

News: The new BEATs with the S-TECH 2 engines are also coming with the music system with the full USB port.

I just got mine delivered this morning and the sales guy told me that I was the first one to get the system with the full USB port and this change was being done in the BEATs manufactured in Jan 2011 onwards.

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Old 1st February 2011, 21:25   #1660
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At last they have the regular USB port. No more hunting for converter cables for Beat owners from now. They should have had this in the first place. Wondering what made them go with the mini USB earlier.
Anyway better late than never!
@rsramkee, Congrats on your new ride! Drive safe

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Old 1st February 2011, 21:50   #1661
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The provison of a regualar USB port is a welcome and much needed change. However I feel that the inclusion of Bluetooth system, steering mounted audio controls and better sounding speakers would have made it a complete package. Hope GM provides these goodies soon.
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Don't get disheartened. With all due respect to GM Marketing, I do not think "New Engine" is so much differentiated with Old Engine.

Absolutely, same thoughts here. Current/Old Customers should feel happy, they have been using world Class "Imported Engines" which are being used to European countries as well.
Thanks for the kind words. I really do hope that ^ is the case.
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Old 2nd February 2011, 01:00   #1663
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At last they have the regular USB port. No more hunting for converter cables for Beat owners from now. They should have had this in the first place. Wondering what made them go with the mini USB earlier.
Anyway better late than never!
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Thanks.

I agree. I in fact even ordered the converter cable from eBay and had it delivered before my car was delivered so that I could test the system before taking delivery. Now I dont need it.

The sales guy did mention a lot of people were asking for these cables from the dealer/service center. So a lot of BEAT owners must still be wondering how to use the USB port they got.

What I also noticed is that the port did not work when I hooked up my blackberry to it. I have songs on my 8520 and hoped to play them but the phone did not even detect the connection properly and only said the port I am connected to was not good enough to charge the phone. Maybe its a blackberry thing. I will try a simple USB drive and I hope that should work.
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Old 2nd February 2011, 01:31   #1664
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Re: Chevrolet Beat : Test Drive & Review

I am not to concerned about the new local engine, but the full USB port is a good improvement.

Any, it does not matter to me now as I purchased the converter from E-Bay. Was so happy to get it that day. And works a charm.
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Old 2nd February 2011, 09:23   #1665
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Nice to see that the regular USB port on the new stereo, wonder who approved the mini USB port for the earlier model, what were they thinking?
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