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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Fantastic review GTO. However, I do feel Tatas have got this wrong. 15L for an MUV, with less of space in the rear,average looks, average interior quality seems to be a sign of disaster for Aria. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but I don't see a rationale for its success |
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Whatever noise new customer will listen he will be tend to agree as natural. Aria is new car and better believe on PDI of TATA. | |
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15L may be more, but this car with a H or slanting H or a Toyota would not retail for less than 20L ex showroom. Aria is a lot more than an MUV. No MUV comes with AWD. Looks are subjective, lot of people feel it looks good as well. As far as interior quality is concerned, I suppose everyone agrees it is the best so far by a Tata. And remember these reviewed pieces were put together hastily because the show pieces were held up due to the truck crash. I saw an Aria at a showroom close by and was simply wowed by how she looked in the flesh.The interiors were simply awesome. This is no innova competition no matter what anyone may say. It is clearly positioned higher. About your comment on "less space in the rear". It has the most luggage space and big boot without having to touch the seats. Unlike Innova or Xylo.All said and done, no vehicle in India save the Xylo/Grande MKII has anywhere near decent third row space. So there's no big deal there, really. | |
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| ![]() Hey guys! This is my first ever post on Team-Bhp! Yay!! Ok all joking aside, I thought I might put my head into this 20-odd page debate about the Aria. Now I am an automotive design student so I think I might be able to share some light on some of the design-related controversies. Here's my take on: a) Ugly rear-end: Since most of the car is very similar to the concept car, my guess is that TML didnt want to invest in another restyle if it wasnt necessary. Its easier, and cheaper, to work with what you have rather than spending another 2 months fixing something for aesthetic purposes. b)Quality of interiors: Okay here's a little secret. Automobile companies spend literally millions on giving customers the Illusion that their cars are built right. Its called "quality perception" ( check JD-Power ratings). Thats actually a key phrase. Truth is you can't really tell if the cars are made well until you buy them. The only way you can tell is to check in places you wouldnt normally see. i.e the bonnet, under the seats, and other hidden areas. Panel gaps are also a good way since it shows the stamping of the sheet metal and tolerances are consistent. And the biggest controversy of all....*drummroll* c) 3rd Row Seating: Okay this is a little controversial so try to keep your cool while I lay my theory out. IMO there are two scenarios. 1) 3rd Row Cargo space was a critical design brief: The design brief is the ( Enter Religious Book Here).Many companies go to great lengths to try and keep the final product as close to the original concept as possible. My guess is that one significant demand of TML was to have "x" liters of space behind the 3rd row. Okay, you might ask why dont you put in on the roof then? Good point, but here's a clue. It doesnt have a standard roof rack. My Wagon R has a roof rack, as do many many cars. Maybe the logic was that it was very LS (Low Society) to put your things on the roof in the elements...which does have some merit. Have you seen a Audi Q7 with stuff on the roof?? Exactly. 2)3rd row was a design change: I know I mentioned that the brief was very important, but sometimes designers need to make decisions based on customer expectations. In most western markets families tend to be nuclear and about 2-5 members. So for most SUV's 5 seats will do nicely. India however tends to have more family members per head. More importantly, having more seats makes the car more Practical in the eyes of consumers, making the car more attractive. In fairness, 3rd row seats are VERY VERY hard to engineer, especially 4x4's. Even Range Rover decided against it because they didnt feel the investment was warranted. 3rd rows are almost always cramped to some degree, with exceptions of course. Most car companies plan way in advance to allow the engineers to design a chassis with this in mind. The new Audi TT's rear seat is actually a joke in the design business, as is most sports cars, convertibles and yes even SUV's. Have a look at Acura's Crossover. The 2nd row is absolutely terrible. So be rest assured this is by no means just a TATA problem. Its an industry-wide challenge. Some Extra Points: 1) I believe the Aria is VFM considering that it is NOT in the Innova market. The top-end model is a lot cheaper than even the basic versions of Captiva, Endeavor and Fortuner. 2) This Chassis may be used for a new family of SUV's and MUV's, I dont think that family cars and small cars will come out of this, its no impossible, but in this day and age, I wouldnt recommend it. 3) I hate to say this but I think most of the people here (except the reviewers) have not got the real feel of the car. Most of the demo cars have just arrived and as such have not been run-in. So its probably too early to gauge the ride and handling. 4) I intend on buying this car....yup I'm placing my order first thing on Monday. WIll keep you guys posted!! ...so what do you guys think? |
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| ![]() Another site for details on Aria: Tata Aria - The finesse of a Sedan with the muscle of an SUV And here is a short video of the manufacturing process. |
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What is the difference between SUV and MUV? Is that form factor alone? ARIA does have more "SUV like" features than any other "MUV looking" vehicle in india. May be it could be called poor man's R-Class. More people could drive safely with AWD and IMO that is a better reason to consider ARIA. Quote:
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| ![]() While the debate rages on in whether the Aria is overpriced or not, for what it is offering, leave aside the shades of gray and take a look at the white Aria. Got this picture from Tata Motors sales team in Bangalore. |
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![]() Today i happened to see 3 Maroon Aria's at Concorde motors, Looked amazing. Maybe deliveries have started. | |
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| ![]() Yet to see Aria in person let alone TD it but that white is really a looker! Seems like some one is taking the delivery of it in the pic. And it looks huge as well. Are there alloys in top variant? |
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as family members wanted to go for white but I insisted that silver would be safer. Then read the review from motoroids and they had a white Aria which looked killer and now this.. ![]() I thought that motoroids people used some really good photography.. | |
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Also when I say average interior quality, it is relative to cars/MUVs selling between 15-18L. Also AWD etc is not relevant to many consumers. How many actually go offroading but for real enthusiasts. Anyways I hope Tatas succeed but we can see the results 6 months down the line and then see where they stand. | |
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| ![]() Great review GTO. This being my first post on this Forum, i'd also like to say a big hello to all the BHPians. I wanted to say that though the Air Dam is an aerodynamic device reducing air-flow under the car, it doesn't serve to reduce the drag, rather it'd slightly increase the drag by increasing the frontal area. It's main purpose is to improve the vehicle stability by preventing any vehicle front end lift that would be caused if the air entering the underbody of the car doesn't exit fast enough and build excess pressure under the car. |
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| ![]() @ passionate1977 3. Personally I consider all MUV's as TAXI. I would never want to be considered as a Taxi Driver & face frequent stopping by traffic police.[/quote] In which world are you man. Any way that was a good one. ![]() Last edited by rki2007 : 22nd October 2010 at 12:39. |
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That was a nice and interesting piece of information from you, on the Air Dam. Hope to see more of your posts in the coming days ![]() Waiting for some ownership reports now on the Aria, hopefully they should start from the next week ! | |
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