[slalom]

Will the 3920 mm length save the Thar ?

I don't think they will plonk the Quanto engine ,it won't generate the low end grunt required for the Thar I believe .

Moreover Mhawk is being tested in the Thar as reported ,let's cross our fingers and wait .

[niks_devil666]

isnt thar less than 4 m in length ?

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Parm

As per the new budget 2013...

The government defined an SUV/Utility vehicle as a vehicle that has an engine capacity exceeding 1500 cc, is over 4000mm in length and has a ground clearance of 170mm and above. If a vehicle meets all the three criteria, it will face a higher excise duty.

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Originally Posted by slalom

Will the 3920 mm length save the Thar ?

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Originally Posted by niks_devil666

isnt thar less than 4 m in length ?

With the current criteria, as posted by Parm above, the Thar might just escape.

From Thar specs -

Dimensions
Front track : 1445 mm
Rear track : 1346 mm
Overall length : 3920 mm
Overall width : 1710 mm
Wheelbase : 2430 mm
Overall height : 1930 mm

Only problem is, I hope the govt. doesn't modify the rule to include a seating capacity restriction also.

[Drlmtukkar]

Hi Suedehead, I am interested in knowing how the CFL have worked out. Have they helped in giving the thar a more pliant ride. I may come over to mumbai this month, in that case can we meet up-- have lots of queries and would love to have a look at what you have done in person

[headers]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

With the current criteria, as posted by Parm above, the Thar might just escape.

From Thar specs -

Dimensions
Front track : 1445 mm
Rear track : 1346 mm
Overall length : 3920 mm
Overall width : 1710 mm
Wheelbase : 2430 mm
Overall height : 1930 mm

Only problem is, I hope the govt. doesn't modify the rule to include a seating capacity restriction also.

GC more than 170 right ? - What do the dealers say?

[torquing_points]

I wonder if there's been some more information about the 'new' thar with Scorpio/bolero dash and the m-hawk? On the verge if buying one but wondering if its worth it to wait? Is there any reliable information available yet, or is it still speculation?

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

With the current criteria, as posted by Parm above, the Thar might just escape
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Originally Posted by headers

GC more than 170 right ? - What do the dealers say?

Looks like it didn't. After days of seeing 'Sorry! The prices are being updated', I was able to finally check the price today.

7.11 ex-sh Delhi, up from 6.88 ex-sh a month or so back. ~25k hike, I think.

Originally Posted by torquing_points

I wonder if there's been some more information about the 'new' thar with Scorpio/bolero dash and the m-hawk? On the verge if buying one but wondering if its worth it to wait? Is there any reliable information available yet, or is it still speculation?

I am sure you must have already gone through this thread. If they launch it with the Scorpio spec mHawk and better interiors, it might also get a substantial price rise!

At this point, everything looks speculative.

[Contrapunto]

There seems to be some subtle changes in the language and verbiage inside the site as well....The features section, for example, also seems subtly re-drafted. For example, in the Features>Safety section, we now have..... "Powerful 9 inch booster with disc brakes in front and drum in rear 4wd high / low ratio for superior all weather and terrain traction.".... Now, is this redrafting the old wine in a new bottle, is there some improvement in brake boost? Maybe a fit question for the experts in this forum.

[slalom]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1134086

" The all new Thar will have new and advanced interiors by taking care of every subtle detail. Experts are working on the position of engine start key hole and dashboard. They are also working on all panel gaps of Thar and will offer power windows and foldable canopy soft top. Mahindra Thar will also come up with a new engine option and Experts are also working on its exteriors.
Thar is expected to launch with set of new features and with more desired signature look which will really be a big splash in the Indian car market."

[Contrapunto]

Originally Posted by slalom

http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/1134086

Thar is expected to launch with set of new features and with more desired signature look ....."

Oh no. I hope, no pray, that Mahindra does not tamper with the classic Jeep looks of the Thar and keeps its DNA intact. Fingers crossed.

[desertfox]

Dear Dhabar Ji,
When you took so much details into account while designing this THAR why have you overlooked the option of opening the front windshield while driving without AC ? If there is no airflow from the front then dust sweeps in from the back of an open jeep. A typical Gypsy problem. Switching on the air blower helps a little but not comparible.
Any option to incorporate an after market denting job and install a CJ3A type front air vent in there ?

COnvince me that the AC is effective in Delhi heat as well and I will buy a Thar this week itself. I am planning to and to sell of my MM550 ( 2000 Model )

[desertfox]

Dear Dhabar Ji,
When you took so much details into account while designing this THAR why have you overlooked the option of opening the front windshield while driving without AC ? If there is no airflow from the front then dust sweeps in from the back of an open jeep. A typical Gypsy problem. Switching on the air blower helps a little but not comparible.
Any option to incorporate an after market denting job and install a CJ3A type front air vent in there ? Little space provided in the windscreen frame.

COnvince me that the AC is effective in Delhi heat as well and I will buy a Thar this week itself. I am planning to sell of my MM550 ( 2000 Model )

[DHABHAR.BEHRAM]

Originally Posted by desertfox

Dear Dhabar Ji, When you took so much details into account while designing this THAR why have you overlooked the option of opening the front windshield while driving without AC? Convince me that the AC is effective in Delhi heat as well and I will buy a Thar this week itself. I am planning to sell of my MM550 ( 2000 Model )

Dear Desertfox - the AC will be effective in Delhi heat, that I am sure of, so go ahead and buy. Regarding your other comment, what can I say? This smiley should say it all! .

I hope you got it! .

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

[torquing_points]

Originally Posted by desertfox

COnvince me that the AC is effective in Delhi heat as well and I will buy a Thar this week itself. I am planning to and to sell of my MM550 ( 2000 Model )

Checked and verified - works well in Delhi heat to make the driver and passenger comfortable. Don't expect cabin chilling though. Rear seat ac comfort is suspect - but then again the back seat of the that is more for occasional use anyway. There are bigger issues on the back seat than AC cooling.

If i were you id buy the Thar- it's a big upgrade in comfort from the 550.

[desertfox]

I went to buy one yesterday in Gurgaon. There is only one Mahindra dealer in Gurgaon who sells THAR, Sterling Motors, the other guy sells only Daewoo Rextron, XUV and Scorpio and the new puny little Xylo off shoot called Quantro or something.

Vehicle not available Ex stock ( THAR ). On orders only with deposit of Rs. 50,000. Delivery time eight weeks.

I checked the canvas hood material, its good. Can anyone post a step by step picture post on how to take off the hood and put it back again. How to tie it rolled up front above the front part of the windscreen or on the B pillar.

The real bad part is the stealership terms of trade. Insurance for Rs. 29,000 with a 20 % discount on insurance. I am sure I can get it for around 16,000 online from Policy Bazar or similar web sites. When the agency was quoting 16,000 I got it for 13,000 from them for my Scorpio VLX 4x4 2011 medel.

But what takes the cake is the assesory package of Rs. 80,000. The CRDe with AC does not come with alloy wheels. A package of 5 x alloys, headlamp grill, front & rear bullbars and seat covers and perhaps mats is for Rs. 80,000!

Best option is not to waste time negotiating with them, leave it to the specialist. I do need a lease car to save on income tax, fortunately my Wagon R lease is expiring next month. I will get the professional negotiator Carz on rent to break their heads over it and deliver me a Thar next month they can get is registered wherever they want in Ghaziabad, Bhatinda, Noida, Gurgaon or Delhi.

Dhabhar Ji, the smiley does not convey all. What was the constraint ? The DI Thar does have it, was it dashboard fitment size, constraint of a readymade frame ? Overlook in hastiness ? Jeep Wrangler YJ, TJ, does not have it so why should we ? What's it ?