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Old 14th June 2011, 16:38   #1741
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Longer shackles good enough to give that lift? I thought SPOA at rear and a good lift kit + longer shocks at the front is how its done.

If you see any of our jeeps that have been made SPOA, the on road handling is outright dangerous. It maybe okay with a 63 bhp 2.1 Liter XDP4.9 under the hood, but not with mPigeon engine.

It is best to make custom longer leafs to increase the ride height at rear.

Front for the Thar is a lot more complicated to make a kit.

It is difficult to make a kit for 4WD front suspensions that use the Torsion Bar Set up as the travel/height is limited by the Torsion Bar. I suppose you can make a longer Torsion Bar but welding it into the Chasis etc will be a pain and if not done properly it can be dangerous.

The other type of IFS front suspension used by Toyota etc has the double wishbone arms with struts/coil overs. With this set up, you can put longer set up with longer struts. I don't think this is possible with Torsion Bar set up.

See this video to see a lift kit being installed on a high lux.



Read this article to understand how to adjust your Torsion bar for lift.

http://www.off-road.com/trucks-4x4/t...ent-19258.html

Both double wishbone (strut/coil over) IFS and Torsion Bar IFS have limitation as far as articulation and your travel will be limited by short suspension arms/Torsion bar and short drive shafts. Extreme lifts will destroy your CV joints too. Although this topic has been discussed in lenght, if you want to do a serious lift, you need a vehicle with solid axles with coil springs or leaf springs.

I would also like to inform you that Uncle Mahindra knows what is best for us, so do not devieate from factory spec. In India you do not need air conditioning or hard top, due to the overall pleasant weather and lack of dust/pollution and extremely low incidents of theft of your personal belongings from your Cthar.

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In India you do not need air conditioning or hard top, due to the overall pleasant weather and lack of dust/pollution and extremely low incidents of theft of your personal belongings from your Cthar.
Hi Tini,
Can you please define overall pleasant weather ?

Lack of Dust & Pollution ?

Of course, I agree to the last one - No one dare touches an open Jeep even if you've got cash inside!!
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True, but even at double the price of the Thar, I would any day take the Defender even with a Safari VVTI and PT Transfer case.
+1 to that!

But that's digressing. BTW with BD gone, who do we take our petition since Uncle Mahindra has already decided what's best for us.

P.S: I don't foresee the AC THAR coming anytime

P.P.S: Maybe time to lock the thread as well. Its already lived its utility
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Hi Tini,
Can you please define overall pleasant weather ?

Lack of Dust & Pollution ?

Of course, I agree to the last one - No one dare touches an open Jeep even if you've got cash inside!!

I guess it is a little difficult to convey sarcasm on a forum
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To what heights a crdi diesel engine can climb ie. oxygen deprived mountain regions? i've started doing my homework Thanks
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To what heights a crdi diesel engine can climb ie. oxygen deprived mountain regions? i've started doing my homework Thanks
I have gone to 18500 in my safari.
So I guess if you have started planning for leh, you need not worry, as very few places cross 18000
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What I am concerned about is whether the AC and Hard Top will make it ot India
+ 1 , we have a saying in Punjabi ( must be in other languages also ) a Firangi comes to teach English language to Punjabi and after few weeks he ( Firangi ) becomes master of Punjabi , I am not sure who is going to learn from whom - TATA from JLR or vice versa .
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A lovely modified Thar can be seen below. Looks very very nice

Source: Mr.Manpreet Singh on Facebook. (Thar Group)
Which brand of alloys are these and what size tyres are those? I want to move to new set of A/T tyres and alloys for my Thar. Any suggestions? Also could you direct me to a good place in Bangalore.
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In India you do not need air conditioning or hard top, due to the overall pleasant weather and lack of dust/pollution and extremely low incidents of theft of your personal belongings from your Cthar.
our thoughts exactly.

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Can you please define overall pleasant weather ?
Lack of Dust & Pollution ?
Vikram Saar, Tiniji just pulling ze Mahindra leg.

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But that's digressing. BTW with BD gone, who do we take our petition since Uncle Mahindra has already decided what's best for us.

P.S: I don't foresee the AC THAR coming anytime
Spikearrester can take our petitions, not sure if anyone else in MM would listen to him or us.

Foresee it in a Garage next to you.

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What is behind the dash? Some photographs of only the body shell / firewall without the dash will help. Thanks.
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Last fortnight when I was exploring the stunning valleys of Kashmir I realised, for a nature lover like me, a car must always be an open top car and given my love for offroad trails it must have a 4x4. The Thar is both !

Today I booked a Thar CRde in Rocky Beige. You can tell I simply cannot resist India !!

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Last fortnight when I was exploring the stunning valleys of Kashmir I realised, for a nature lover like me, a car must always be an open top car and given my love for offroad trails it must have a 4x4. The Thar is both !

Today I booked a Thar CRde in Rocky Beige. You can tell I simply cannot resist India !!
Congrats Saar!

When is it coming and when do we get to off-road it a bit

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When is it coming and when do we get to off-road it a bit
Thanks Anirudh. They said a month's wait. Hopefully if its delivered in July I can still catch August and September monsoon offroading fun.
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Hopefully if its delivered in July I can still catch August and September monsoon offroading fun.
Dear DKG - I have read all your posts with great interest and also the Thar test drive report . If I recall correctly - you were waiting for a FF AC. I am aware that the FF is not going to happen any time soon. However was wondering if you have any information on the price / time line expected for the dealer fitter AC on the Thar. Are the M&M dealers in Hyd more aware than the Blr dealers.

And congratulations, of course !!

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Congratz DKG! Its an excellent vehicle for your touring needs. M&M has sent out circulars to dealers on some recall so hopefully the critical niggles are already sorted out in your vehicle when it is delivered. Looking forward to a ownership experience from a true gentleman offroader
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