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Originally Posted by ajay_satpute My Vista completed 25k KMs and so was due for its 5th service. I had already changed engine oil to Fully Synthetic Mobil1 oil along with fuel filter. So there was not much work except the following 2 major issues:
1) Front suspensions were making "karr karr" sound while going over a speed braker
2) Power window switch on the driver's control panel for the rear LHS window was not working.
I called Mr. Lonkar on 28th Feb and he said that I will need an appointment. So I asked him for one and got Tuesday's (6th March) appointment. I did not like the first question he asked me on the phone when I asked for an appointment. The questions was LOUD and clear "Which car is it???". When I said Indica Vista, he paused for a few seconds and then said get it next week. It might be my imagination, but did not like the tone of this question. Probably, if I had said Audi A4, he would said "Get it now!". Anyways...
Problem # 1:
I reached the place at 9:30 AM sharp as scheduled. There were two guys and one guy started filling up the job card, with not very useful information. He filled up my name, car's reg number and mobile number. When I started listing the issues to be tackled, he was like "Sir sab ho jayega, dont' worry". He did not write down any of the issues I reported.
Problem # 2:
Mr. Lonkar first told me he will reach the garage by 9:45. He did not. I called him up again at 10 and he said he will take another 15-20 minutes. So I left and told him to call me back.
Problem # 3:
He never called me back till 2 PM. So I called to check status. The car was not ready and the required part had to be ordered and Mr. Lonkar was not sure whether it will reach him by today evening. So he said he will call me back by 5 PM to update the status. He did not call me back. I again called him at 5:30 and said that "why do you never call me back, when you say you will?" His response "Sir, today i do not have my mechanics and so I am busy". When I left the garage at 10 AM in the morning, there were at least 7 mechanics already at job.
Problem # 4:
The car was not to be ready by EOD 6th March, as expected. So he tells me that he will call me by 11:30 AM next day (7th March) and will update me the status.
Problem # 5:
He called me today morning (7th march) at 10:45 itself saying that the car is ready to go. It was unbelievable. How did he manage to get the part so early in the morning and fit it and get the car ready??? Anyways, so I told him to send the car ASAP, if its really ready. He sends it.
The car reached me in 10 minutes, checked everything as per the list and he had not resolved the power window switch problem. He had informed me that his electrician is looking into it, but at last he tells me that the whole power window assembly needs to be replaced and that assembly can come only in 3-4 days.
Problem # 6:
So the driver leaves after I take charge of the car. I take it to the parking and while I am parking, I had to reverse the car a bit to get the right angle and boom... The reverse sound not working. FINE...I still parked the car. Got out and I try to lock the car with remote and BOOM! Remote lock not working. I can not lock the car AT ALL.
I called Mr. Lonkar immediately and he said he will pick the car and rectify the issue ASAP. So the car goes back to garage.
Problem # 7:
I have having lunch at a place far from the drop off point of the car. He calls me and tells me, that the car has already left the garage and it should reach me in 5 minutes. I told him that I am not there right now and will take atleast an hour to reach. So the car goes back to garage for the 3rd time. WHY could not he call me before leaving the garage???
Problem # 8:
He never called me for the next 2 hours. So I called him at 3 to ask about delivery. He says no driver is available to drop the car. He called me after 20 minutes and said that he will himself drop the car now. So he reached me and I checked everything. He handed the keys to me. I checked whether remote lock is working and it was, thank God. So i told him to wait and let me check the reverse music. When I slotted the reverse gear and turned to tell him that its working now, he had already crossed the road and was on the other side entering some car. WHAT THE HELL?
Overall, very disappointing experience from customer relationship POV. He may be knowledgeable, experienced, but needs to learn to talk to customers, be it an Indica Vista customer or Audi A4.
Now, I will have to visit TASS to fix the power window problem, which I did not want to do in the first place. |
I called Mr. Lonkar on 28th Feb and he said that I will need an appointment. So I asked him for one and got Tuesday's (6th March) appointment. I did not like the first question he asked me on the phone when I asked for an appointment. The questions was LOUD and clear "Which car is it???". When I said Indica Vista, he paused for a few seconds and then said get it next week. It might be my imagination, but did not like the tone of this question. Probably, if I had said Audi A4, he would said "Get it now!". Anyways...
I'd like to mention that this is standard practice, irrespective of who the owner is, to ask our customers to take prior appointment, which depends on the workload that we have. It also depends on the make of the car, as smaller cars are done faster. So more small cars can be worked on in a day.
As for your 'assumption' regarding Vista/Audi, that is not at all true. It is not possible for me to remember the car make of every customer, so I ask for the car details. Even if you had said you had an Audi A4, that would not have made any difference in terms of giving priority with respect to appointment. It could well have been just the opposite, as working on these cars is really time consuming. The pause before giving the appointment is for going through my appointment diary to allot a slot for your car. Even fleet owners who come to us call for prior appointment & get an appointment as per our schedule.
If what you say were true, then there would have been only Audis, Mercedes, BMW & other high end cars in our workshop. We work on almost ALL types of cars right from Nanos to Range Rovers and also Jeep, Golf restorations & some modification jobs.
Problem # 1:
I reached the place at 9:30 AM sharp as scheduled. There were two guys and one guy started filling up the job card, with not very useful information. He filled up my name, car's reg number and mobile number. When I started listing the issues to be tackled, he was like "Sir sab ho jayega, dont' worry". He did not write down any of the issues I reported.
Problem # 2:
Mr. Lonkar first told me he will reach the garage by 9:45. He did not. I called him up again at 10 and he said he will take another 15-20 minutes. So I left and told him to call me back.
Every garage, or for that matter every car dealership, enters your name, vehicle no. and contact details on the job card. It is standard practice and required information.
Here is a scan of the job card filled up for your car.
Attachment 900573
Could you please point out which part of the filled in information is 'not very useful' ?
As you can see, the job card has listed all your complaints.
You were given an appointment of 9.30AM to drop the car and when you reached the workshop, our supervisor filled out a job card for your car, for which I don’t necessarily have to be present.
Everyday in the morning on my way to the garage I have to visit my suppliers or collect cars, as we have a collection & deliver system. This takes time and sometimes its gets a bit late by the time I reach the garage due to the early morning heavy traffic. I had not as yet reached and that's why you had to wait because you specifically wanted to talk to me. It's not as if I was in the office and kept you waiting outside for an indefinite period of time.
Problem # 3:
He never called me back till 2 PM. So I called to check status. The car was not ready and the required part had to be ordered and Mr. Lonkar was not sure whether it will reach him by today evening. So he said he will call me back by 5 PM to update the status. He did not call me back. I again called him at 5:30 and said that "why do you never call me back, when you say you will?" His response "Sir, today i do not have my mechanics and so I am busy". When I left the garage at 10 AM in the morning, there were at least 7 mechanics already at job.
I agree, I did not call back, and I apologize for the same. I should have, but honestly I lost track of time attending to other jobs.
Even if you saw a couple of mechanics in the morning, some of them have to go to collect material ordered for that day or have to attend to breakdowns. There are appointments lined up everyday & we have to complete the cars which were not completed the previous day, first, & also work on cars which have come in that day. Even if 1 or 2 mechanics do not turn up for work, my schedule goes for a toss. As every car has to be delivered at a specific time, things do get a bit tricky sometimes. I hope you can understand.
Problem # 4:
The car was not to be ready by EOD 6th March, as expected. So he tells me that he will call me by 11:30 AM next day (7th March) and will update me the status.
Problem # 5:
He called me today morning (7th march) at 10:45 itself saying that the car is ready to go. It was unbelievable. How did he manage to get the part so early in the morning and fit it and get the car ready??? Anyways, so I told him to send the car ASAP, if its really ready. He sends it.
The car reached me in 10 minutes, checked everything as per the list and he had not resolved the power window switch problem. He had informed me that his electrician is looking into it, but at last he tells me that the whole power window assembly needs to be replaced and that assembly can come only in 3-4 days.
You had specifically mentioned a 'kur kur' noise that the car makes while going over bumps, didn't you ? When it comes to suspension related issues, unless these are inspected thoroughly, it is hard to pin point exactly which part is faulty and whether it needs to be replaced or can be repaired. In your case, we had to check suspension related parts ,which meant disassembling a few things, remove certain parts and check them in order to be absolutely certain. In your case, the RHS ball joint had gone bad and needed replacement.
We take these efforts to try and keep customer expenditure low and replace only those parts which really HAVE to be replaced otherwise we try and repair things as far as possible. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier for me to call you and tell you that some suspension related parts need to be replaced and the expenditure will be X Rupees ? Isn't this what happens in most dealerships ?
I do not work on these lines. It's sad that while I am trying to keep parts expenditure as low as possible, people misinterpret it as too much time taken.
As soon as we figured out that the ball joint that needs to be replaced, we placed the order with our regular supplier. All my suppliers are based in the city and there are none in Baner, Balewadi, or Aundh While going home in the evening, I collect the parts from the supplier, bring them with me to the garage the next morning & ask my guys to fix it first, since that car has first priority and then take up work on any other car. So that's how I managed to fix your car so early at 10.45 am. Why the car being ready before time is an issue is honestly beyond my comprehension.
I run a private garage and cater to all cars. Even the most basic of cars like the Nano has thousands of parts. It is practically impossible for me to stock each and every part for every brand and model. We have all the usual consumable items in stock but, like in your case, a ball joint is a part which doesn't need to be replaced every 5-10k kms. like filters and oils do and therefore is not in stock and has to be ordered. Had I been running a dealership workshop then the expectation of having most of the parts in stock for that specific vehicle is valid.
Regarding your switch, I had informed you that my regular electrician was on leave that day but my other guys were competent enough to open and check for loose connections, blown fuses, cut wires and so on. The next day when my electrician did come, I asked him to check if anything could be done to repair it, otherwise the last resort would be to replace the part. Unfortunately that was the case and so you were informed accordingly.
As I mentioned earlier, due to practical difficulties related to parts stocking, we would have had to order the power window assembly, delivery for which can be 3-4 days according to the availability of the part. This is not in our hands at all. It totally depends on the supplier.
Problem # 6:
So the driver leaves after I take charge of the car. I take it to the parking and while I am parking, I had to reverse the car a bit to get the right angle and boom... The reverse sound not working. FINE...I still parked the car. Got out and I try to lock the car with remote and BOOM! Remote lock not working. I cannot lock the car AT ALL.
I called Mr. Lonkar immediately and he said he will pick the car and rectify the issue ASAP. So the car goes back to garage.
While working on the car, the central locking unit was making that annoying sound so my guys had unplugged it so that it won't keep sounding while working. It was supposed to be reconnected before delivering the car. I accept that they forgot to reconnect it, our fault, no two ways about it.
When you called and informed me about it, I asked my person to leave immediately and fix it there itself or get the car back here and fix it.
When my guy came to pick up the car, you made some serious allegations and yelled at my guy saying, 'You guys have ruined my wiring' and what not ? Was that really necessary ?
Problem # 7:
I have having lunch at a place far from the drop off point of the car. He calls me and tells me, that the car has already left the garage and it should reach me in 5 minutes. I told him that I am not there right now and will take atleast an hour to reach. So the car goes back to garage for the 3rd time. WHY could not he call me before leaving the garage???
Since the reverse horn and central locking issue cropped up due to our mistake, we made it a point to fix it and redeliver the car ASAP. It was just unfortunate that you were not in the office at that time. We tried to fix the issue on top priority and deliver the car without further delay. As we have other deadlines to meet, delivering the car at a specific time may not always be possible. Normally, there is a charge for collection & delivery, as 2 people have to be sent for this job. But since the mistake was from our end, we fixed it & just tried to deliver the car without further delay.
Problem # 8:
He never called me for the next 2 hours. So I called him at 3 to ask about delivery. He says no driver is available to drop the car. He called me after 20 minutes and said that he will himself drop the car now. So he reached me and I checked everything. He handed the keys to me. I checked whether remote lock is working and it was, thank God. So i told him to wait and let me check the reverse music. When I slotted the reverse gear and turned to tell him that its working now, he had already crossed the road and was on the other side entering some car. WHAT THE HELL?
There was nobody to drop the car for the next 2 hours. When we did have the time to drop it, you were not available. Since another car was headed that way, I called you to say I would come personally to drop it. I myself had checked that everything was working properly and THEN I came to deliver the car. As for leaving after handing over the keys, since I had personally verified that the reverse horn was working and had pressing issues to address at the garage, I took your leave.
Overall, very disappointing experience from customer relationship POV. He may be knowledgeable, experienced, but needs to learn to talk to customers, be it an Indica Vista customer or Audi A4.
Now, I will have to visit TASS to fix the power window problem, which I did not want to do in the first place.
I would have truly appreciated it had you brought your issues and dissatisfaction to my notice before posting it on this forum. It would have given me a fair chance to address your issues and maybe sort everything amicably then and there itself. It's also possible that this post would have then been unnecessary and you might have left with a very different impression. In all honesty and fairness, it is impossible for me to know what's on your mind unless you let me know about it. I am always open to genuine feedback and suggestions irrespective of them being positive or negative. That's the only way any person, establishment or business learns and grows.
I have never claimed that my garage is the best or is perfect. Mistakes are bound to happen and I do have good sense to accept my faults and mistakes and rectify them.
I hope this answers most, if not all, of your concerns. In case you have any more questions or concerns, do feel free to get in touch