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Old 16th April 2012, 20:51   #61
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Why is he using wedding card to make packing?!
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Why is he using wedding card to make packing?!
Thickness

The packing is not available, hence he had to cut it using a wedding card, usually the available packings are made of thin school drawing sheet material. Also we get asbestos sheets in the market, but 2 days of search resulted in getting 2 mm sheets, but could not get the desired thickness. He knows best, says wedding card thickness and quality is much better than the available packing kit, so i will leave it to him.

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Thickness

The packing is not available, hence he had to cut it using a wedding card, usually the available packings are made of thin school drawing sheet material.

He knows best, says wedding card thickness and quality is much better than the available packing kit, so i will leave it to him.
Hi Pavan,

While I appreciate the 2nd part above (in principle), what is the scene with - cork sheets ?

Till about 20 years back, we could get cork sheets of various thickness from which packings could be made even using the tapping method being used by your mechanic

Don't tell me they are not available any more

Best Regards & Drive/Ride Safe

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Lots of mechanics in India get lazy and make do with paper gaskets if they run out of cork sheet. It works but the cork will be more long lasting.

I noticed a few things and would love to get some clarifications.

1. The engine block should be in black, why are you going with silver. In the long run when the car is in use it will get smudged with oil and dirt and will be a nightmare to maintain in clean condition.

2. What is that metal spacer on which the carb is sitting, it will have an adverse effect on performance. That twin throat carb needs a proper manifold not a spacer.

Is the car being restored with the aim of being a daily direver? If so look at installing electronic ignition as it will help with the performance along with the headers..

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Dear Pavan - be careful, that's a Hitachi carburettor from a 118NE. In the wrong hands, it is a nightmare. The lower hose adaptor on the block is broken, be careful.

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Pawan Garu,

Awesome job, the paint looks so dashing, paint booth has given an edge to the painting.

As for the color scheme, if you probalby scan the pages of my restoration you will get some info. I had given some fiat pdf files to Arun a long time back. These brochuers also do have the required paint scheme. The backing plates of the brakesa re in shade of olive green / khaki color. The block is in Redoxide and so on.

As for the carburettor, I had huge problems with this type running on LPG. God save these are no more in production and I do not retrofit the kits any more now.
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Dear Pavan - be careful, that's a Hitachi carburettor from a 118NE. In the wrong hands, it is a nightmare. The lower hose adaptor on the block is broken, be careful.

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Thanks Behram sir, This mech is the same guy who works on my VW's and the one who restored the Fiat Topolino Head that u identified.

Will take care while re-assembling.

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Pawan Garu,

Awesome job, the paint looks so dashing, paint booth has given an edge to the painting.

As for the color scheme, if you probalby scan the pages of my restoration you will get some info. I had given some fiat pdf files to Arun a long time back. These brochuers also do have the required paint scheme. The backing plates of the brakesa re in shade of olive green / khaki color. The block is in Redoxide and so on.

As for the carburettor, I had huge problems with this type running on LPG. God save these are no more in production and I do not retrofit the kits any more now.
Manish bhai, This car is prepared more to be a daily runner than being a PERIOD car. I need you to come once again to have a look at few Original fittings this car has and maybe you might need them to be replicated for your car.
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One of the wheel bearing and RHS Front wheel cylinders seems to have gone Kaput.

Looks like the mech will take the car over to his house to rectify the troubles.

He's slow, but he's precise

Hopefully the car should be running in the next 3 days time
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I need you to come once again to have a look at few Original fittings this car has and maybe you might need them to be replicated for your car.
Yeah once back to India will pay a visit. I still have a few original things missing, so definitely need your help in replication.
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Finally the car made it to the mechs place

I am happy as the speed for mechanical restoration will now pick up.

I am expecting the car to be back with me in the next 48 hours from today
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All fittings done, Tappets done

The mechanic has gone hunting for the Oil-Filter, if a new one is not available, he's going to remove the existing one, clean it and re-use it.
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1) Brakes - Done
2) Transmission oils - Done
3) Fuel pump - Done
4) Carb - Done
5) Tappets- Done
6) Engine tuning-Done
7) Suspension greasing - Done
8) Engine room wiring - Done

The car finally came back from the mechanics place, Now need to get the rest of the work done, finish the car and hand it over.


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Front grille being fitted, i am not happy at the way its bent and warped, but cant help as new one's are Obsolete and looks like there is no way you can find them brand new.

1) Switchboard chrome panel missing,
2) Carb choke (Hand accelerator or whatever its called) is missing.
3) One light between the meters missing
4) MILLECENTO badge missing
5) Original steering missing.
6) Front windshield rubber with Aluminium insert slots needed (Aluminium trim is intact)
7) Millecento rims (4 numbers) missing
8) Headlight aluminium ring ( 1 number ) missing
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Front grille being fitted, i am not happy at the way its bent and warped, but cant help as new one's are Obsolete and looks like there is no way you can find them brand new.

1) Switchboard chrome panel missing,
2) Carb choke (Hand accelerator or whatever its called) is missing.
3) One light between the meters missing
4) MILLECENTO badge missing
5) Original steering missing.
6) Front windshield rubber with Aluminium insert slots needed (Aluminium trim is intact)
7) Millecento rims (4 numbers) missing
8) Headlight aluminium ring ( 1 number ) missing
The outcome is really impressive, though feel sad about the cosmetics. I hope you are able to procure them soon.
OTOH the sorting of mechanical and electrical works is a sigh of relief, atleast it can perform well on its own now.

EDIT: Please stick a piece of paper or something equivalent under the ignition switch else the key hanging from keychain will ruin the paint underneath the switch, over time.

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The outcome is really impressive, though feel sad about the cosmetics. I hope you are able to procure them soon.
OTOH the sorting of mechanical and electrical works is a sigh of relief, atleast it can perform well on its own now.

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Relief is an understatement

As of now, everything is Done, but there are lots of tiny bits that needs attention, hopefully i will be able to finish it very very soon.

Anyone wants to hear the Ferrari

The end can is not yet complete, the last piece has to go in very soon, later i presume it should start sounding better.


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