Any info on this Hyd / Del Beetle?

Spyder · 2nd November 2009, 19:00

Hi all,

I've been looking for a Beetle, which can be a family weekend car. We have been looking around and not been able to locate anything we like (or at a reasonable price). Some beetles that we saw were also a mish-mash of parts from various models and I would like a clean/stock car.

While passing through one of the main roads in Hyderabad, I came across this rusting beetle. I thought it appropriate to post pictures of the car here and get the gurus views on (i) which model it is, (ii) whether it would make a good restoration project and (ii) what are the sort of costs and work that I would need to consider (include parts that I would need to import / are locally available). I will let the pictures do the talking for now.

If anyone knows the owner and if it is for sale, I would greatly appreciate if you could let me know. The garage where it is parked seems to have shut down a few years back and I am told that the garage owner stays in Secunderabad. There are one or two other rusting vintage cars there (whose photos I did not take since I was running late for a meeting)

I would also welcome leads to other beetles for sale in a good condition (and reasonable price) in Hyderabad or elsewhere in India. Looking forward to your comments.

Cheers,
Spyder

wasif · 2nd November 2009, 19:27

That Beatle and the other cars you mentioned belong to a cousin of our very own DKG.

There is some issue with them and they might not be for sale.

The unfortunate part is that these cars were in pristine dcondition at one time and have sadly been allowed to be vandalised and brough to this state...rather disgusting.

You can see the Adler Senior Sedan in the background in one of the pictures and there was also a Dodge tourer of teh early thirties with them.

Pretty sad fate to befall such well kept cars.

Spyder · 2nd November 2009, 19:46

Thanks for the lead on the cars Wasif.

Found the link on the Adler (thanks to google and t-bhp

) at
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/pre-19...ml#post1194822

Any idea what was the issue with the cars? Its a pity to see it in this condition.

I hope somebody can still give it a good home.

Which model beetle is this and how much it would cost to bring it back to its pristine glory? Looking forward to more inputs from the beetle fans here.

Cheers,
Spyder

PAVAN KADAM · 2nd November 2009, 20:13

Wow a nice Beetle, That one's supposed to be a 1963 /65 Bug.

Something like this to come out completely restored would cost around a lac or a lac n half.

Would make a goood project car.

Stanher · 2nd November 2009, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyder

While passing through one of the main roads in Hyderabad, I came across this rusting beetle. I thought it appropriate to post pictures of the car here and get the gurus views on (i) which model it is, (ii) whether it would make a good restoration project and (ii) what are the sort of costs and work that I would need to consider (include parts that I would need to import / are locally available).

I'm glad you finally got pics. of this car! 'been wanting to do it myself but every time I pass by that area, it either slips my mind or I'm a bit hesitant, as there is usually none to ask. I've been seeing this car fall to pieces for the last 3-4 years! It had the running board intact when I first saw it. Really sad that they've been let to rot like this! As wasif said, the property is said to be under some dispute (maybe legal) so the cars are not for sale right now. Maybe after the place is sold, which may be too late for the cars!
Also sorry I got your sms etc. but haven't been able to help you so far in locating a beetle, being preoccupied with other work!

You took any pics. of any of the other cars there btw?

hillram · 2nd November 2009, 23:48

Spyder..there are atleast 3 Beetles that I know are for Sale.
A white one is in a pristine condition but the owner is asking 5 Lakhs
A Red one is fairly in a decent shape and the owner is asking 1.5 Lakhs
A badly unrestored beetle is also available
All these cars are near Masab Tank.Please PM me if you want to take a look.

chanu · 3rd November 2009, 10:43

I guess this car has got few good accessory like head lamp rim, bumbers and a good old engine and few other body parts which makes me feel this car can be a good donor car.

Spyder · 3rd November 2009, 15:54

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Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

Something like this to come out completely restored would cost around a lac or a lac n half.

Would make a goood project car.

@Pavan. Thanks. Could you give me some idea of the cost break-up. I am expecting the body work to be around 50k, the painting to be around 25k, the interiors to be another 25k. Would this be a proper estimate? Not sure about the engine though - would need to be de-rusted. Could you help me out there with some information. Also, I would probably need to get all the rubber beadings changed, new headlamps and other light accessories. Are these all available locally in hyd / Blr or would they need to be imported? Rough costs would be great. Thx.

@Stanher - I've been seeing this car lying there for sometime myself and nobody knows where the owner is so finally decided to go ahead with taking pictures. Little did I realise that it belonged to a cousin of our very own DKG :-) Wonder if the legal dispute extends to the cars or just the property..however, it will not be right to comment on their personal matters. Didn't take any other pics of the cars there, but Karlos had taken one earlier. See http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/pre-19...ml#post1332545

@Hillram - Here I was asking for one and you've given me 3 leads!!!

I would definitely be interested to see them all and ready to leave now if need be

Have sent you a PM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chanu

I guess this car has got few good accessory like head lamp rim, bumbers and a good old engine and few other body parts which makes me feel this car can be a good donor car.

Chanu, it would be unfortunate to see such a car have to become a donor car. It is still salvagable and the vintage fans here have actually restored cars in worse conditions.

Aston.Martin · 19th November 2009, 23:41

@Spyder, Did you see those cars ?

post the pics if possible.

chanu · 20th November 2009, 00:28

Spyder sorry for my ignorance. Infact what you said is very much right Team BHpians restore cars/automobile from a much pathetic condition. I salute their zeal and hardwork and I believe this car should join that band. Wishing this German wonder a lot of good luck

Dhanu@DJ · 7th December 2009, 17:12

@Spyder there is one available in bengaluru its a 1976 beetle... I will share the pick once its available

Dhanu@DJ · 9th December 2009, 11:19

1976 beetle in bengaluru...

Any info on this Hyd / Del Beetle?-image0081_non.jpg

71Convertible · 10th December 2009, 08:15

No -- This is a 71 or 72 only Super.

PAVAN KADAM · 10th December 2009, 23:27

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Originally Posted by 71Convertible

No -- This is a 71 or 72 only Super.

Are you sure Byas.

Maybe now you would change your statement.

This car belongs to Mushtaq.

71Convertible · 11th December 2009, 06:12

Positive. look at 2 things:
1. trunk shape -- it is the more rounded shape of the super.
2. flat screen -- supers had flat screen only for 71 and 72 (1302)

So only possibility is that the photo exaggerates the shape of the curve and that it is not a super -- in which case it's a a standard and could be of many other years. But, I'm willing to bet it is a 1302 super.

2nd November 2009, 19:00	#1
Spyder BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 78 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Any info on this Hyd / Del Beetle? Hi all, I've been looking for a Beetle, which can be a family weekend car. We have been looking around and not been able to locate anything we like (or at a reasonable price). Some beetles that we saw were also a mish-mash of parts from various models and I would like a clean/stock car. While passing through one of the main roads in Hyderabad, I came across this rusting beetle. I thought it appropriate to post pictures of the car here and get the gurus views on (i) which model it is, (ii) whether it would make a good restoration project and (ii) what are the sort of costs and work that I would need to consider (include parts that I would need to import / are locally available). I will let the pictures do the talking for now. If anyone knows the owner and if it is for sale, I would greatly appreciate if you could let me know. The garage where it is parked seems to have shut down a few years back and I am told that the garage owner stays in Secunderabad. There are one or two other rusting vintage cars there (whose photos I did not take since I was running late for a meeting) I would also welcome leads to other beetles for sale in a good condition (and reasonable price) in Hyderabad or elsewhere in India. Looking forward to your comments. Cheers, Spyder Attached Thumbnails
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2nd November 2009, 19:27	#2
wasif Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Abu Dhabi (for now) Posts: 2,957 Thanked: 414 Times	That Beatle and the other cars you mentioned belong to a cousin of our very own DKG. There is some issue with them and they might not be for sale. The unfortunate part is that these cars were in pristine dcondition at one time and have sadly been allowed to be vandalised and brough to this state...rather disgusting. You can see the Adler Senior Sedan in the background in one of the pictures and there was also a Dodge tourer of teh early thirties with them. Pretty sad fate to befall such well kept cars.
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2nd November 2009, 19:46	#3
Spyder BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 78 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Thanks for the lead on the cars Wasif. Found the link on the Adler (thanks to google and t-bhp ) at http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/pre-19...ml#post1194822 Any idea what was the issue with the cars? Its a pity to see it in this condition. I hope somebody can still give it a good home. Which model beetle is this and how much it would cost to bring it back to its pristine glory? Looking forward to more inputs from the beetle fans here. Cheers, Spyder
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2nd November 2009, 20:13	#4
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Wow a nice Beetle, That one's supposed to be a 1963 /65 Bug. Something like this to come out completely restored would cost around a lac or a lac n half. Would make a goood project car.
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2nd November 2009, 23:48	#6
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	Spyder..there are atleast 3 Beetles that I know are for Sale. A white one is in a pristine condition but the owner is asking 5 Lakhs A Red one is fairly in a decent shape and the owner is asking 1.5 Lakhs A badly unrestored beetle is also available All these cars are near Masab Tank.Please PM me if you want to take a look.
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3rd November 2009, 10:43	#7
chanu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: APX to AP 29 Posts: 1,483 Thanked: 150 Times View My Garage	I guess this car has got few good accessory like head lamp rim, bumbers and a good old engine and few other body parts which makes me feel this car can be a good donor car.
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19th November 2009, 23:41	#9
Aston.Martin BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 149 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	@Spyder, Did you see those cars ? post the pics if possible.
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20th November 2009, 00:28	#10
chanu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: APX to AP 29 Posts: 1,483 Thanked: 150 Times View My Garage	Spyder sorry for my ignorance. Infact what you said is very much right Team BHpians restore cars/automobile from a much pathetic condition. I salute their zeal and hardwork and I believe this car should join that band. Wishing this German wonder a lot of good luck
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7th December 2009, 17:12	#11
Dhanu@DJ BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 54 Thanked: 28 Times	@Spyder there is one available in bengaluru its a 1976 beetle... I will share the pick once its available
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9th December 2009, 11:19	#12
Dhanu@DJ BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 54 Thanked: 28 Times	Here is the pic... 1976 beetle in bengaluru...
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10th December 2009, 08:15	#13
71Convertible BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 341 Thanked: 110 Times	No -- This is a 71 or 72 only Super.
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11th December 2009, 06:12	#15
71Convertible BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 341 Thanked: 110 Times	Positive. look at 2 things: 1. trunk shape -- it is the more rounded shape of the super. 2. flat screen -- supers had flat screen only for 71 and 72 (1302) So only possibility is that the photo exaggerates the shape of the curve and that it is not a super -- in which case it's a a standard and could be of many other years. But, I'm willing to bet it is a 1302 super.
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