How rich were the Maharajas before Independence! Cars of the Maharajas

wasif · 11th May 2009, 23:36

So are they both the same car or two different cars ???

dhrishikesh · 16th May 2009, 12:37

Hi all,
can anyone please provide me the link for downloading "The Automobiles Of Maharajas" in PDF format; written by Manvendra Singh ???

Regards,
Hrishikesh

the mole · 17th May 2009, 19:33

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Originally Posted by dhrishikesh

Hi all,
can anyone please provide me the link for downloading "The Automobiles Of Maharajas" in PDF format; written by Manvendra Singh ???

Regards,
Hrishikesh

Dude I dont think thats legal, its a clear violation of copyright laws to covert a book into pdf and then post it for download. You wont find this kind of stuff on this website.

wasif · 17th May 2009, 19:58

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Originally Posted by the mole

Dude I dont think thats legal, its a clear violation of copyright laws to covert a book into pdf and then post it for download. You wont find this kind of stuff on this website.

Yup. They are actually selling copies. I got a good deal buying it from Albris. Good luck.

Fantastic book to have. I was a bit dissapointed as I was actually expecting it to document the cars that belonged to each Royal family in the form of seperate chapters.

vintagepoint5 · 18th May 2009, 11:37

I find one nice print at Hyd prominent book shop for Rs. 3500/= last year.
I was expecting lot of coverage of Nizam's car in the book, but covered briefly mostly the contents is of North India. But still it is good informative peace of history.

Star man · 19th May 2009, 04:31

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Originally Posted by the mole

Dude I dont think thats legal, its a clear violation of copyright laws to covert a book into pdf and then post it for download. You wont find this kind of stuff on this website.

Unless you go to Google books where it appears that anything goes. I have found copies of lots books which I guess are still covered by some form of copyright.
Amazon dot com have millions of titles listed on site for sale including used books and this is the first place to look when trying to find an obscure book. i had a collection of cherished car books that i had spent 40 years collecting and it wasn't until the lot got stolen in 2000 that I found that the value was many many times the insurance cover I had on them. This is because car books in general are very low volume in print and often go out of print quickly. Low volume means big demand and so on and so forth.

wasif · 19th May 2009, 10:28

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Originally Posted by Star man

Unless you go to Google books where it appears that anything goes. I have found copies of lots books which I guess are still covered by some form of copyright.
Amazon dot com have millions of titles listed on site for sale including used books and this is the first place to look when trying to find an obscure book. i had a collection of cherished car books that i had spent 40 years collecting and it wasn't until the lot got stolen in 2000 that I found that the value was many many times the insurance cover I had on them. This is because car books in general are very low volume in print and often go out of print quickly. Low volume means big demand and so on and so forth.

What Google books and Amazon are doing amongst others is to sell copies of various books. They could be new or used out of print or current editions.

But what they are not doing is selling or permitting downloads of scanned or electronic versions of said books. This is perfectly legal and a boon to us enthuseasts who are looking for obscure titles.

Kindle on the other hand is a device which is designed to let the user read books in an electronic format. Not all books are available in this manner but those that are are authorised by the publisher / author. Again a very legal practice.

Now scanning and offering downloads of such scanned litrature is a violation of copyright laws in any country. Not a practice to be condoned or sought on this forum.

karlosdeville · 4th June 2009, 14:42

Some absolutely stunning period photographs of Baroda.

Picasa Web Albums - Raphae - 1920s Baroda ...

Unfortunately no cars, but a couple of photos of carriages and a spiffy plane can be seen.

harit · 7th June 2009, 15:19

There is an article on a Horsch ex-Bharatpur in the May issue of Auto India. According to the article, this car left India in 1933/34. Now in Australia and soon the be auctioned. Go buy/borrow the issue and read the article.

Cheers harit

wasif · 7th June 2009, 16:54

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Originally Posted by harit

There is an article on a Horsch ex-Bharatpur in the May issue of Auto India. According to the article, this car left India in 1933/34. Now in Australia and soon the be auctioned. Go buy/borrow the issue and read the article.

Cheers harit

Is it light / sky blue with black fenders. If so I have posted pics of this car somewhere in this thread.

BTW its Horch

WA

karlosdeville · 23rd July 2009, 10:20

A nice shot of a Mercedes 180 can be seen here. Not a royal car, but a state car nonetheless.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1396859-post414.html

travancore · 4th August 2009, 04:19

Check out this Vanity Fair Story (and all 18 pictures) - it is worth it.
A Vroom of Their Own | vanityfair.com

Also wish if we could get to see some of these pictures in Mr.Bhogilal's collection (only car I can positively identify is the ex-Rajkot Chrysler Airflow; and maybe the Nawanagar Lanchester he is holding). Also looks like a Bentley Speed Six / 6.5 Ltr towards the bottom right corner (black car)

source: Vanity Fair (picture cropped)

How rich were the Maharajas before Independence! Cars of the Maharajas-bhogilal-vintage-car-pictures-large.jpg

moralfibre · 4th August 2009, 08:03

The Maharajah's did not just stick to cars, some went ahead and got themselves planes as well. As seen below from a flight magazine dating back to 1910, the Maharajah of Patiala's Lane-Farman biplane:

karlosdeville · 4th August 2009, 10:44

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

The Maharajah's did not just stick to cars, some went ahead and got themselves planes as well. As seen below from a flight magazine dating back to 1910, the Maharajah of Patiala's Lane-Farman biplane:

The ruler of Idar was known to be a keen aviator, which is probably what made him purchase a Farman car as well.

speedy · 4th August 2009, 13:59

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Originally Posted by travancore

Check out this Vanity Fair Story (and all 18 pictures) - it is worth it.
A Vroom of Their Own | vanityfair.com

Also wish if we could get to see some of these pictures in Mr.Bhogilal's collection (only car I can positively identify is the ex-Rajkot Chrysler Airflow; and maybe the Nawanagar Lanchester he is holding). Also looks like a Bentley Speed Six / 6.5 Ltr towards the bottom right corner (black car)

source: Vanity Fair (picture cropped)
Attachment 169437

They are pictures of Mr.Bhogilals cars and it is he who is holding the picture with he daughter seated to the left.

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vintagepoint5 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jeddah/Hyd Posts: 421 Thanked: 64 Times View My Garage	re: Book "Automobile of the Maharajas" I find one nice print at Hyd prominent book shop for Rs. 3500/= last year. I was expecting lot of coverage of Nizam's car in the book, but covered briefly mostly the contents is of North India. But still it is good informative peace of history.
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karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 11,976 Thanked: 18,275 Times View My Garage	Some absolutely stunning period photographs of Baroda. Picasa Web Albums - Raphae - 1920s Baroda ... Unfortunately no cars, but a couple of photos of carriages and a spiffy plane can be seen.
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harit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,033 Thanked: 3,281 Times	There is an article on a Horsch ex-Bharatpur in the May issue of Auto India. According to the article, this car left India in 1933/34. Now in Australia and soon the be auctioned. Go buy/borrow the issue and read the article. Cheers harit
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karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 11,976 Thanked: 18,275 Times View My Garage	A nice shot of a Mercedes 180 can be seen here. Not a royal car, but a state car nonetheless. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1396859-post414.html
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travancore Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 2,934 Thanked: 8,551 Times	Vintage Maharaja Cars Check out this Vanity Fair Story (and all 18 pictures) - it is worth it. A Vroom of Their Own \| vanityfair.com Also wish if we could get to see some of these pictures in Mr.Bhogilal's collection (only car I can positively identify is the ex-Rajkot Chrysler Airflow; and maybe the Nawanagar Lanchester he is holding). Also looks like a Bentley Speed Six / 6.5 Ltr towards the bottom right corner (black car) source: Vanity Fair (picture cropped)
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moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,443 Thanked: 13,956 Times	The Maharajah's did not just stick to cars, some went ahead and got themselves planes as well. As seen below from a flight magazine dating back to 1910, the Maharajah of Patiala's Lane-Farman biplane: Attached Thumbnails Last edited by moralfibre : 4th August 2009 at 08:04.
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