How rich were the Maharajas before Independence! Cars of the Maharajas

Scorcher · 13th February 2010, 20:19

Just came across this thread, Awesome material folks ! To begin with, im not very much into vintages. But being a Automobile person by birth (

) i enjoy seeing spotlessly maintained cars. And i'm reaaly flabbergasted by the contents you guys are handling ! Kudos guys !

And the RR Garbage trucks, Yet to figure that out !

karlosdeville · 13th February 2010, 21:25

An early Morris on display at a Jodhpur palace - note, its from USA

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Scorcher · 13th February 2010, 22:02

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

An early Morris on display at a Jodhpur palace - note, its from USA

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Will it runaway if not tied with the rope ?

It looks frightened !

v12 · 25th February 2010, 02:26

I guess this has not been posted before :

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Source : VETERAN CAR CLUB OF AUSTRALIA (N.S.W.) Home Page
In India the car was used by the Company's agent G.Cecil Gnapp, seen in the left photo, on the Maidaan, in Calcutta 1913. Shortly after this photo was taken, it was sold to the H.H. The Maharaja of Patiala.

DKG · 25th February 2010, 10:07

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Originally Posted by v12

I guess this has not been posted before :

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Source : VETERAN CAR CLUB OF AUSTRALIA (N.S.W.) Home Page
In India the car was used by the Company's agent G.Cecil Gnapp, seen in the left photo, on the Maidaan, in Calcutta 1913. Shortly after this photo was taken, it was sold to the H.H. The Maharaja of Patiala.

How many of the London-Edinburgh tourer chassis style RR's came to India? I think its only this one? I think the Nizam's throne car was based on a L-E chassis. The car in the picture is so gorgeous. Its such a graceful style

BTW did any Ghosts in the Roi-de-Belges body style come to India? if so do any survive? gorgeous style. I found AX201 quite impressive

Spitfire · 25th February 2010, 12:23

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Originally Posted by v12

In India the car was used by the Company's agent G.Cecil Gnapp, seen in the left photo, on the Maidaan, in Calcutta 1913. Shortly after this photo was taken, it was sold to the H.H. The Maharaja of Patiala.

That is such a beautiful car. Are there pictures of it in recent times. I looked up the site but didnt get any pictures.

v12 · 26th February 2010, 03:20

Unfortunately not Spitfire :(. There may be some pics of the car if it still exists in India and has participated in any rally.

travancore · 26th February 2010, 06:01

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That is such a beautiful car. Are there pictures of it in recent times. I looked up the site but didnt get any pictures.

This is Silver Ghost Chassis # 1958. There are many current pictures on the web - google "Kadoorie Rolls Royce"; and you should find at least a few. It is owned by Michael Kadoorie of the famous Peninsula Hotel in Hong Kong / Shanghai. Recent licence plates have been SV8770 and R8818.

Here is one picture, the car was also at Pebble Beach 2004

Here is another link with some history:

Crailville Ltd: Coachwork: Rolls: The Mystery - 1912 Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost

A very similar car to the above was Chassis # 1948 (Raja of Puducottah)

Also check out Automotive Quarterly Vol 43, #4 for a 10-page article entitled "The Maharajah's Ghost" on the car with more pictures while at Patiala and current

DKG - regarding the previous post, you will find a couple of Roi-des-Belges Silver Ghosts in "Autos of the Maharajas". The above car is technically a "London-Edinburgh Tourer" bodied by Holmes of Derby. Holmes was R-R's "neighbourhood coachbuilder.

Couple of chassis #'s for "Indian" Silver Ghosts with Roi-des-Belges bodies are #60588, #60970, #1391, #1402, #1680, #1688

DKG · 26th February 2010, 12:00

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Couple of chassis #'s for "Indian" Silver Ghosts with Roi-des-Belges bodies are #60588, #60970, #1391, #1402, #1680, #1688

Do any survive in India?

karlosdeville · 6th March 2010, 20:25

Here is a picture I found online sometime back, cannot recollect where. It shows what appear to be royal garages in Rajasthan. Can anyone identify the 2 cars?

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67Bug · 8th March 2010, 15:38

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Here is a picture I found online sometime back, cannot recollect where. It shows what appear to be royal garages in Rajasthan. Can anyone identify the 2 cars?

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Appear to be Gondol cars.

harit · 8th March 2010, 16:13

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Appear to be Gondol cars.

Quite certain, not Gondal

Cheers harit

Rotorhead · 8th March 2010, 16:34

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Here is a picture I found online sometime back, cannot recollect where. It shows what appear to be royal garages in Rajasthan. Can anyone identify the 2 cars?

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maybe not the gondal collection. The emblem on the cars dont match the gondal royal emblem.

DKG · 8th March 2010, 17:34

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Here is a picture I found online sometime back, cannot recollect where. It shows what appear to be royal garages in Rajasthan. Can anyone identify the 2 cars?

The blue car looks like a 1936 Cadillac convertible Karlos. The way those headlamps attach to the grill shell is typical of Cadillacs of the period. The registration is Sawai Madhapur

wasif · 8th March 2010, 18:36

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Originally Posted by DKG

The blue car looks like a 1936 Cadillac convertible Karlos. The way those headlamps attach to the grill shell is typical of Cadillacs of the period. The registration is Sawai Madhapur

It could well be a Chrysler too as they used this same method on their cars too.

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