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Old 8th June 2008, 20:42   #391
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Here are some Indian 20/25. Am I right with information s.a. chassisnumbers given?

#GBJ71 1935 20-25 Thrupp & Maberly Landaulette Maharaja of Baroda
#GLZ17 1933 20-25 Barker Sedanca de Ville Maharaja of Travancore
20-25 Curtained proceeds through a crowd with an armed escort in Jaipur

Thanks, Andre for comment about the Hathoura PII #105MW, info comes from Lawrence Dalton "the Derby Phantoms" page 242 and 298.

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The id. are correct except for the last car which is (I think) a post-1920 Silver Ghost lim dv.
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These are previously posted photos of RR 20hp cars, does anyone have any ideas about them or their owners as I'd like to write to them and find out the chassis numbers. Is (or was) one of these cars #64H9 1923 Barker tourer with hand control conversion for the Maharajah of Udaipur?
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From the preceding post:
The black 20hp is 64H9 1923 Barker Barrel tourer with hand controls for The Maharajah of Udaipur. Here's a shot of the Steering wheel and dashboard. The accelerator is on the steering wheel and you can just see the hand clutch lever mounted on the gear change lever. There is also an additional brake lever for the brakes (rear only) but its out of sight.
The second photo in the last post of a blue 20hp Park Ward has identified as GCK34 1925 Arnold tourer sold to Sir Arnold Barrie.

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So the third car is still a mystery and so are these two 20/25s
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the silver/black Kellner car is not a mystery, it is GAE3.
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Thanks Park Ward, hopefully I expect Karl will be posting more 20/25 and 25/30 images shortly....... over to you Karl
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Here is one more > http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/vintag...tml#post869992

The picture was probably taken in surat ?

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I see nothing written about copyright on the site this came from so the picture being in the public domain can be posted. Does anyone have any idea when the photo was taken?
The Begum of Bhopal's first car. Perhaps 1911 Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost #1620??

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A couple of photos of a 1929 Rolls-Royce 20/25 GWP8 in the Calcutta rally in 1985 and 1970. The photos were taken by HH Raja of Tirwa.


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Another photo of the Rolls-Royce Vanden Plas 25/30 GZR30.
Classic Rolls Royces in India-gzr30-vanden-plas-momen-1.jpg





Also Mr Seth’s Silver Ghost 23TG owned by The Raja of Kalsia.
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All photos kindly provided by Mr Seth
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Roger OZ,

Appreciate if you will respond to the following request from Julian UK

"Regarding the Rolls-Royces in Sri lanka, any photos/chassis numbers (from the ID plates on the engine side of the firewall) or means of requesting the owners to provide any numbers/details/history would be greatly appreciated by those attempting to update the records/history of Rolls-Royces that came to South Asia."

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Roger OZ, Welcome to the forum!
Just to help with the records even just the chassis numbers of the Sri Lanka RRs would help. Any images would be wonderful. The owners and the cars whereabouts is not necessary. Would be very grateful if you could help.
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MHC 707, the silver and black Kellner 20 25 has been advertised for sale in this months Autocar India.

I dont know if I had mentioned this, but I once had a 3 hour chat about this car (amongst others) with the son of a previous owner on a Bombay-Poona bus ride. His father was a well known and respected RTO, and he bought the car from a dealer in Bombay who had gotten it from one of the better known Maharajas, I forget which, in non running condition but requiring minimal work. If Im not mistaken he paid 7000 rupees for it, back in the 50s/60s. He mentioned he still treasures the Kellner plate he removed from the car before he sold it.
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MHC 707, the silver and black Kellner 20 25 has been advertised for sale in this months Autocar India. who had got it from one of the better known Maharajas, I forget which, in non running condition but requiring minimal work. If Im not mistaken he paid 7000 rupees for it,
Maybe we can trouble Park Ward for the royal history of 20/25 GAE3?
Perhaps we can club together and offer them Rs.7050....
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Maybe we can trouble Park Ward for the royal history of 20/25 GAE3?
Perhaps we can club together and offer them Rs.7050....
I doubt they would let it go. Im told they are looking for 1.5cr for it.
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Hi
I am new to this forum, and have been put on to it by my mate Andre Blaize in France ("ParkWard"). I am the PIII historian, living in Australia and the author of the PIII articles that appeared in the Aus club magazine "Praeclarum" (see items 145 and 248 in this thread). What I'll do is post the definitve list of the PIIIs that went to India/Pakistan, and then follow up with detailed individual histories of the cars.
Most of the sub-continental PIIIs seem to have survived, most still in India or Pakistan, even if some of them are in a pretty horrid state of repair. I'd really appreciate corresponding (on this list or off it) with people in India who know about these cars.
I also have reasonable database entries for most coachbuilt RRs.
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Hi
I am new to this forum, and have been put on to it by my mate Andre Blaize in France ("ParkWard"). I am the PIII historian, living in Australia and the author of the PIII articles that appeared in the Aus club magazine "Praeclarum" (see items 145 and 248 in this thread). What I'll do is post the definitve list of the PIIIs that went to India/Pakistan, and then follow up with detailed individual histories of the cars.
Most of the sub-continental PIIIs seem to have survived, most still in India or Pakistan, even if some of them are in a pretty horrid state of repair. I'd really appreciate corresponding (on this list or off it) with people in India who know about these cars.
I also have reasonable database entries for most coachbuilt RRs.
Cheers
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Welcome to the forum Steve, your contributions will be most welcome and I hope we can reciprocate in any way we can.
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