The Nizam of Hyderabad's Collection of Cars and Carriages

DKG · 24th November 2009, 14:06

APU 4627 is a Harley Wasif. It looks to be a 47/48.

The Indian is the one with the side car

myashu · 30th November 2009, 12:31

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

I am referring to this bike - are you?

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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/996474-post35.html

Oh yeah the same bike, but aren't the other bikes which are besides it, all harleys? I couldnt find the name on it, so I thought they are. Ok the one with the side car is an Indian Chief? Cool, thanks for the info, and sorry for misleading info from my side...

You have any idea, which is the tricycle-bike?

DKG · 18th January 2011, 12:44

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Originally Posted by V-16

If some company would take up sponsorship to restore the car it would be ideal

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Originally Posted by DKG

That's definitely worth exploring. I wonder if there has been a precedent anywhere else of a company restoring a car in a private collection. If so that would make it easier to convince.

Gogi !! Prophetic words !! What are the chances someone got an idea from here??

Cartier is now paying for the restoration

rg_chn · 18th January 2011, 14:16

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Originally Posted by DKG

Gogi !! Prophetic words !! What are the chances someone got an idea from here??

Cartier is now paying for the restoration

I just went through the whole thread, and was wondering if restoration was in the cards. All's well that ends well

BTW, How many cars are they paying for? Is the restoration happening in India? By who? WIP pics?

DKG · 18th January 2011, 14:31

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Originally Posted by rg_chn

I just went through the whole thread, and was wondering if restoration was in the cards. All's well that ends well

BTW, How many cars are they paying for? Is the restoration happening in India? By who? WIP pics?

Just the Rolls is being done up in Indore by Mr. Manvendra Singh. I don't have details of WIP pictures etc. It will be on display at the forthcoming Cartier event so I guess we all have to wait until then.

happybuddha · 3rd February 2011, 17:08

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Originally Posted by Stanher

I'm somewhat skeptical about the co-existence of APX and APY. And it was also an ex-RTO officer who'd told me that APX was succeeded by APY, then APU, followed by ADX, ADY and so on.
Yet, even many of the oldtimers give varied answers about the chronology of the registrations, therefore Ive decided to refer to cars with original registrations as templates.

'might sound a bit

for this section but APX 3333 for instance can safely be taken as a mid 50s standard 10:

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Whereas APY 216 is a 1961 Pennant and going by the 3 digits, this series couldnt have started the same time as APX. Nor is there any chance of the particular number preceeding the manufacture of the car.

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Having seen many 60s vehicles, APU was then succeeded by ADX and AAX seemed to have been introduced shortly later, eventually co-existing with ADX. ADY seemed to have co-existed with ADX though.

'sounds a bit mind-boggling for now I guess!

May I know what road in Banjara hills btw?

APX was mid 50s APY was mid 60s.
The chronology I think can safely be referred as APX was around 50s and APY as around 60s. Have had both of these registration vehicles and grown up listening to all this. ... and this was for the entire Nizam Province. The ones I know.. APX was registered in Hyderabad and APY was in some place in Guntur.

cheers,

wasif · 3rd February 2011, 17:45

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Originally Posted by happybuddha

APX was mid 50s APY was mid 60s.
The chronology I think can safely be referred as APX was around 50s and APY as around 60s. Have had both of these registration vehicles and grown up listening to all this. ... and this was for the entire Nizam Province. The ones I know.. APX was registered in Hyderabad and APY was in some place in Guntur.

cheers,

Boss APY is also HYderabd regestration ....my Fiat is APY single owner from Hyderabad

happybuddha · 7th February 2011, 12:24

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Originally Posted by wasif

Boss APY is also HYderabd regestration ....my Fiat is APY single owner from Hyderabad

Absolutely. As I said, the reg no.s were for the entire Nizam province, as it seems. APY was for Hyderabad as well as for Guntur.Since both of them were (and are) under one state. May be the numbers had quotas too (like 1-x for HYD x-y for some other place etc).. who knows.

Stanher · 7th February 2011, 13:37

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Originally Posted by happybuddha

Absolutely. As I said, the reg no.s were for the entire Nizam province, as it seems. APY was for Hyderabad as well as for Guntur.Since both of them were (and are) under one state. May be the numbers had quotas too (like 1-x for HYD x-y for some other place etc).. who knows.

Guntur and Hyd. never shared any of the old AP regn. series.

Guntur was APG (then ADG/AAG/ATG and so on later)

APY was only for hyd. from the early 60s (although someone earlier said it came out the same time as APX and represented the 'Atraaf baldiya', I'm positive it came out post 1950s and was for hyd. only as well) and was succeeded immediately by APU.

happybuddha · 17th February 2011, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Stanher

Guntur and Hyd. never shared any of the old AP regn. series.

Guntur was APG (then ADG/AAG/ATG and so on later)

APY was only for hyd. from the early 60s (although someone earlier said it came out the same time as APX and represented the 'Atraaf baldiya', I'm positive it came out post 1950s and was for hyd. only as well) and was succeeded immediately by APU.

I base my knowledge on the information I know, and you base it on yours.

So, cheers mate. May be we have different versions.
Atraaf baldiya, btw, could just mean a Municipality. I have lived around the erstwhile MCH building and have grown up around a 'baldiya' building as such. and atraaf, by a quick google shows the meaning as 'around/environment', so am not sure what an atraaf baldiya would mean.

cheers,

wasif · 17th February 2011, 21:03

It means regions AROUNd the actual municipality of Hyderabad

Scarlet_Rider · 31st March 2011, 23:04

Hello Folks,

A Rolls-Royce from the Nizam's car collection that was recently restored was on display at the Chowmahalla Palace today, 31st March 2011. The high tea event started at 5:30 PM. There was a good crowd and a few local news channels also covered the event. Here are the pictures of the car. Enjoy!!

Regards and Keep Revving,

Rahul Waghmare.

harit · 1st April 2011, 00:06

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Originally Posted by Scarlet_Rider

Hello Folks, A Rolls-Royce from the Nizam's car collection that was recently restored was on display at the Chowmahalla Palace today, 31st March 2011. The high tea event started at 5:30 PM. There was a good crowd and a few local news channels also covered the event. Here are the pictures of the car. Enjoy!!

Regards and Keep Revving,

Rahul Waghmare.

Good show. This is exactly why I was happy when I heard that this Rolls is being restored. Perhaps it would not be standing there for years to come if it was not for this. Great.

Cheers harit

hillram · 1st April 2011, 00:37

Wonderful restoration and the Pride of Hyderabad is back where it rightly belongs to.Chowmahallah plans to restore all the cars now in display.That would be simply marvellous.

Attari · 1st April 2011, 10:14

Great to see the car back in Hyderabad.. In the pictures above I dont see the tail light that was present on the car at the cartier rally... Any idea what happen to it??

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Scarlet_Rider BHPian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 589 Thanked: 574 Times	Restored Rolls-Royce Displayed At Chowmahalla Palace - 31st March 2011 Hello Folks, A Rolls-Royce from the Nizam's car collection that was recently restored was on display at the Chowmahalla Palace today, 31st March 2011. The high tea event started at 5:30 PM. There was a good crowd and a few local news channels also covered the event. Here are the pictures of the car. Enjoy!! Regards and Keep Revving, Rahul Waghmare. Attached Thumbnails
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hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,922 Thanked: 1,246 Times View My Garage	Re: The Nizam of Hyderabad's Collection of Cars and Carriages Wonderful restoration and the Pride of Hyderabad is back where it rightly belongs to.Chowmahallah plans to restore all the cars now in display.That would be simply marvellous.
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Attari BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 86 Thanked: 15 Times	Re: The Nizam of Hyderabad's Collection of Cars and Carriages Great to see the car back in Hyderabad.. In the pictures above I dont see the tail light that was present on the car at the cartier rally... Any idea what happen to it??
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