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Originally Posted by wasif Harith.
With all due respect I beg to disagree.
There are many people in India who think knowing about a certain car is knowledge that makes them superior to others and will not share the knowledge with others.
They will not buy the said car nor will let others know about it fearing that others would get their hands on it.
Once the car is actually sold they go oh I knew about it first. It doesn't matter.The fact remains that nobody, formost restorer of formost collector, wanted to place their money on a car in such an exceptional state. Going by the condition the car is in the pictures supplied I feel the asking price was definitely justified.
No amount of money would get you a car in this condition today anywhere in the world.
Its really not important who saw the car or who knew about the car. The important thing is that someone did something to save the car.
There are plenty of people who go around "discovering" cars but how many of them actually do something to save them ?
And regarding the research you did on the cars name please check my post no 72 in the top ten car thread. I was the first to mention that the car couldn't be called a speedster but a dual cowl phaeteon. I even posted pictures of the two to help people understand the difference. |
I beg to differ again with all due respect, and this time strongly.
You are generalising, I am refering only to this car Stutz.
The statement was "Discovery of the year by Mr. Titus". All I pointed out was that this was incorrect. And I said that I knew of the car such a long time ago, never claimed it as my discovery. And all these years I never boasted of knowing about a Stutz, "you do not, so I thumb my nose at you". Short and to the point, it was termed as a discovery which it was not. If you read my post on prewarcar.com about the Packard, I did not claim it to be a discovery as it was known to few, certainly not to all.
Was the car saved? Saved from what? Normally saved implied imminent destruction, or going into the ground or leaving the country. The car has not been saved, it has gone into a collection and may be displayed for all to see. As mentioned before, I am happy that she came out, photos are on the site for all including me to see for the first time. But saved?
About your comment on my research, now I think that you are getting either personal or atleast sarcastic. The word "speedster" IS a part of this cars model name!!! AND twin cowl, not dual cowl. My source is the guy who bought it first.
Now look closely at the car, the colour and the chrome. Does the colour look original? In this condition? I wonder. But the chrome looks original. Please note the difference in condition.
Did it evet cross you mind that when a car is discovered, and not disclosed to others, there may be a selfish motive of wanting to aquire the car, or the car is not for sale, or one is gathering money to buy the car, or one is sworn to secrecy not to reveal, etc.etc. and not for the feeling of being superior. This Stutz has been discovered ages ago, and discussed among a select group. Come on, who says you have to disclose to others only to have them seak behind you and snatch the car? I have seen that happening.
And I have not understood the post by DKG.
"Without taking names I hope I can clear some of the "mystery" here.
Very few people had heard about the existence of this car. Possibly no one knew exactly the location of the house it was in. Possibly only one person knew the owner and met him several times over the years. The car was never for sale. When finally the car was offered for sale it has been purchased.
End of story
See I have replaced his icon.
In this site we try to put up facts, and as I have mentioned in my intro, all what I say is subject to correction, i.e. when additional info is available. His short post has many inaccuracies.
Who says few people knew about this car? I can name atleast 25 old enthusiasts who knew about this car. It is new on this forum, sure but there are many who are not here. In fact now when I meet guys I ask them if they are on tbhp and ask them to look in and increase our info.
Exact location was known to many.
Broker told me first about it, because he wanted to increase my knowledge as it was not for sale
Asking price was always high, maybe not serious in selling but eventually it did sell for a high price. Just by chatting one weekend you cannot get the whole story. And perhaps if you listen a bit more, you will pick up more.
And how does the story end here? Now let us see if they will go as per your suggested colour scheme, or not. So the story will continue!!!
Boy I love this forum, so many angles, stories, opinions and information for all to share enjoy.
Nothing personal over here.
Perhaps Mr. Wasif and all can see this link, it is 2 years old but gives and idea about pricing, condition.
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Always a pleasure to put up info. BTW, this link was just sent to me 2 minutes ago and so I had to edit this post as I thought it was worth putting up.
Cheers