Re: Harley Davidson brake defect - Dragged to court by Pune businessman Quote:
Originally Posted by man_of_steel
But on types like cruisers and scooters the weight bias is towards the rear tyre and even on aggressive application of front brake, the rear will always have a good contact patch. Where as a sports bike's rear tyre will come off the ground the moment you become hot on the right lever. How many Harleys have you seen doing a stoppie? And that long raked front fork will not be forgiving like a sports bike if you grab a handful of front brake and might result in an instant front wheel washout. (One of the lessons learned among many others during a 4 month bed rest).
The point is, it does matter which type of bike you ride and your braking will(should) change based on the bike you ride. So on a cruiser you will have to use the rear brake more than on any other bikes.
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Totally agree with you on the weight distribution ratio of the sports bikes. But the advice to use more rear brakes on a cruiser is confusing.
I grew up hearing the advice - "stay off the front brakes" and had two experiences that still send chills up my spine.
1. I used to ride around in my Father's Bajaj Chetak and once when I was overtaking a car, I saw a Transport bus approaching some 300 meters from the other side. Stepped on the rear brake and rear wheel stepped out sending the scooter into a sideways skid. Stayed on the rear brake while turning the handlebar into the skid and released the rear brakes out of panic, just before both the wheels were in line. The resultant head shake - I will never ever forget in my life. Lessons learned then : Be gentle on the rear brake and on a rear wheel skid, stay on the brakes till both wheels are in line.
2. In my Royal Enfield Bullet, during my initial riding days I never touched the front brake. The result was that within a month, I was doing 90 and 180 degree stops in the midst of city traffic.
Meanwhile in Team-Bhp, n_adithya shared the information on some excellent books on motorcycle riding techniques and must say it changed my world for good. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...-thread-8.html
Since then I use more front brake than the rear and have made panic stops successfully and am still thankful to n_adithya for the pointers to those treasures.
The increased rake angle in a cruiser actually makes it more stable. You can see that it is more difficult to steer a cruiser than a sports bike and also that the cruiser gives you less head shakes that the sports ones.
So out of my experience, what I would say is "while riding a cruiser and in panic stop situations - Use both the brakes. Use front brakes as your primary brake and use the rear brakes in such a way that they won't lock and step out. Always remember that a locked front wheel gives you a low side and a locked rear wheel gives you a high side.
To emphasis the stopping power of the front brakes , here are two videos - One from an exert stunter in full gear and one from a nincompoop in fools gear.
So what I think is that the types of motorcycles doesn't matter. It is the skill of the rider that matter and for that one needs to constantly practice. One should learn to use that front brakes to full potential and learn to modulate the brake lever when you get the feeling that it is about to lock up. And the most important thing - During aggressive braking with the front brake, always brake in a straight line.
regards adrian
Last edited by adrian : 5th February 2015 at 13:10.
Reason: Typos
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