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| The Motorcycle Airbag Jackets and Vests thread Motorcycle airbagsThis post is about airbag systems worn as part of the riding gear, and not about the airbags installed on motorcycles like the Gold wing. Airbag systems for track use are also beyond the scope of this post. All prices are current market prices when importing into India and not the MRP/RRP. All images are from the internet except that of Helite e-turtle 2, which is mine. What are they? As the name suggests, a motorcycle airbag is a type of gear worn by the rider or the pillion which gets deployed in case of a crash and absorbs most of the impact energy. Airbag types Based on the mechanism of deployment, airbag systems can be mechanical or electronic. Mechanical system works through a tether which the rider has to attach to the bike. In case of a crash and separation of the rider from the bike, the tether gets pulled and a spring loaded nail pierces the compressed gas cartridge causing deployment of the airbag. Pros
1. Hit Air
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![]() Turtle 2 demo 3. Spidi
![]() Slow deployment of the Spidi vest, especially the neck support. 4. Motoairbag
![]() There are various other less popular mechanical systems in the market, mostly Chinese, but deployment times are unusably slow. Some of the aliexpress ones can be had for under 10000 rupees. Note the slow deployment of the aliexpress airbag. Even our very own Axor has one prototype under development, but the deployment time is comically slow. (Video of Axor vest deployment). It looks more like a rebranded generic ali express vest. Axor vest ![]() Electronic system has a suite of sensors including GPS, accelerometer and gyro in the module/the brain of the system. In case of a crash, the system detects the change in variables and activates a small explosive charge which pierces the compressed gas cartridge and thus deployment. Pros
1. Dainese
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Tech Air 3 ![]() Tech Air 3 is the cleanest looking of all the airbag vests. ![]() The air bladders are arranged in such a way that there is space for ventilation in between. ![]() Tech Air 5 and Tech Air street are the only street airbags that provide shoulder protection, even though neck support is less. These can only be worn under airbag compatible jackets with atleast 4 cms of space to expand. Provides protection equivalent to 9 CE level 2 back protectors or 18 CE level 1 back protectors. There is an additional CE level 1 back protector in this. Ventilation is much lesser, though not absent like the Dainese.No integrated airbag jackets available afaik. A dedicated track mode is available for those interested in racing. Price Rs 75000 including shipping and duties. Tech Air 5 ![]() Tech Air street ![]() The air bladder has no space in-between for ventilation. ![]() Tech Air 5 failing to deploy during a demo. Watch from 2:50. Tech Air 5 deployment when there is no crash. 3. In & Motion
![]() 4. Helite e-turtle 2
Helite used to have a dealer in India till 2019, but as of now no official dealers here. I got mine from Motostorm.it. Fcmoto and Revzilla also had them in stock, but Motostorm had the best price. They took around 5 days to ship (via Fedex) after ordering. But once shipped, i got the product in just 3 days. Securely packed ![]() Sizing Sizing is a big issue with Helite. They have multiple size charts with contrasting information. Also, it is sized to fit someone with a big belly. I am 5'9" tall with a 42" chest and 28" waist. According to Helite size chart, I could go either with size M or L. After browsing through various fora and talking to multiple people who have used this, I realised that size S is the best fit for me. Size M even though is appropriate in length and chest size, the waist size is too big for someone of my size but could be appropriate for someone with a waist size above 32". The vest is not supposed to be too tight as it needs space for expanding. At the same time, it should not be too loose that it starts flapping around while riding. The ideal fit is said to be when one can comfortably pass their fist under the vest after wearing it. Straps are at the shortest possible length. It is just about the right size for me. ![]() The back is the right length. Any longer and the back protector will start hitting the seat and the upper part of the vest touching the helmet. ![]() Fork sensor Fork sensor helps in detecting slow speed and standing crashes. It also decreases the detection time by half. It is recommended that the fork sensor be installed at the lowest possible location on the fork, but it is not possible to go much lower on an upside down fork. Upto 5 different fork sensors can be connected to a single vest. Unlimited number of vests can be connected to a single fork sensor. Fork sensor is sealed for life and has to be checked once every year with a special magnetic tool. It is predicted to last for more than 5 years. There is no option to recharge its battery, so once it dies, have to get a new one. ![]() Please ignore the dirt, the picture was taken after a trip to Goa. ![]() Real world review After receiving the item, I did a 1600 km trip to Goa. The trip included all sorts of road conditions including smooth four lane roads, under construction pothole ridden roads as well as village roads of Goa. The temperature was also near 40 degree Celsius during the day, and few hours of riding under the rain as well. The ventilation is good enough, even when temperatures are above 40, as long as the bike is moving. But the moment bike gets stuck in traffic, sweating starts. I wouldnt say it was unbearable, but airbag vests are definitely not for the city traffic. Somewhere on the route to Goa. ![]() Miscellaneous
e-turtle 2 offroad deployment during a jump ![]() ![]() Rear refelctive stripes ![]() Note the 3 zips. One on the center top and 2 on the bottom left and right. The air bladder and the back protector can be accessed through these zips. ![]() The waterproof zip, inside which is the electronic module as well as the CO2 cartridge. ![]() 60CC CO2 cartridge and the electronic module behind it. ![]() The charging port ![]() Waterproof pocket on the left side. ![]() The LED indicator and the power button. Green indicates fully charged and ready. Orange is the charging indicator. Red indicates errors as well as powering off. Blue indicates pairing with the fork sensor. There are also different beeps to indicate each of the above. ![]() Straps are highly adjustable. ![]() I will post if something interesting happens. Thanks for reading. Last edited by deerhunter : 6th June 2023 at 20:03. |
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| Re: The Riding Gear thread Quote:
Hopefully we can use this post as a base to also track developments and newer products and availability in India of these airbags. Quote:
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| Re: The Riding Gear thread Quote:
Sorry to be the wet blanket, but how effective is this on Indian roads with unscientific constructions all along ? ![]() ![]() ![]() regards adrian | |
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| Re: The Riding Gear thread The airbag jacket makes sense in my opinion especially based on the added protection it offers according to CE levels. Hope it gets cheaper based on economies of scale. Ideally we need something for riding pants too. There was something similar for bicycle helmets as well on the market but I think normal helmets do fine. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | Re: The Riding Gear thread Quote:
They are tethered type though. Last edited by Axe77 : 7th June 2023 at 18:54. Reason: Caps | |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() | Re: The Motorcycle Airbag Jackets and Vests thread The Motorcycle Airbag Jackets and Vests thread - Posts moved to a new thread. |
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| Re: The Motorcycle Airbag Jackets and Vests thread Wow, definitely something interesting! Great review. |
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| Re: The Riding Gear thread Quote:
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Given how unpredictable Indian roads are and how low the margins of error are, imo an airbag is even more important than in the West. A boulder can suddenly appear on the road, a child/cow can suddenly jump in front of you, a car/truck can cut you off etc etc. In all of these scenarios, an airbag is an added level of protection which can mean the difference between life and death. Last edited by deerhunter : 7th June 2023 at 21:27. | ||
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| Re: The Motorcycle Airbag Jackets and Vests thread Excellent, informative & well written article @deerhunter. I would like to add a few more words always ride defensively in our country. You do not know from when and where a mishap is lurking on our roads. Always follow ATGATT ( ALL THE GEAR ALL THE TIME ). Invest in the best of the gear you can buy. Always invest in improving your riding skills and do not take unnecessary risks. And finally Always pray to your God / Fate / Luck before you ride. |
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| Re: The Motorcycle Airbag Jackets and Vests thread Good thread. Very detailed and informative. I used to ride a few years ago. I am talking about 2017. The first thing I ordered was an airbag jacket for safety. I had ordered the then top of the line Hit Air EU6. It had the fastest inflation time back then I think. When it comes to safety, you just can't take the minutest of chances. You mustn't. I think more people should go ahead and buy these. I used it for a few years till i stopped riding altogether. It used to get heavy with the winter thermal on but that is a small compromise for safety. It would protect you or namely your organs from getting damaged if you fell for some odd reason which in our country is probable. Not sure about head on collision though. Still worth the price. Had gotten it from USA back then with a couple of extra 60cc cylinders. Airlines made a fuss but I reasoned through it. Attaching a pic of my jacket model from the internet. ![]() Last edited by sirjokhi : 8th June 2023 at 14:25. |
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| Re: The Motorcycle Airbag Jackets and Vests thread Thanks for such an enlightening thread. I had known such a product exists but I did not know how it functions. With a lot of people upgrading to higher displacement motorcycles and the ever-increasing number of long rides, I guess it is an much-needed accessory. |
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| Re: The Motorcycle Airbag Jackets and Vests thread I remember going down this rabbit hole after Ryan F9's video came out. This tech just made logical sense. In a country like ours, it might take very long to adapt and it will improve with primary adoption from the more affluent class flowing down to mass adoption (as is the case with most tech) with economies of scale kicking in. If you think about it, wearing a full riding gear kit (boots to helmet) was and honestly still is seen as the 'outlier' thing to do. But only someone who is riding would appreciate the exponential increase in level of protection one is improving with each additional gear put on. Similarly I expect tech like airbags to complement our current set up. I personally would look towards saving each to import / get it hand carried through a friend at some point. While price point of ~1 lakh sounds expensive, it is a heck of a lot cheaper than me not reaching home with all organs intact to my loved ones. Thank you for the detailed post deer hunter, it is a great primer for anyone in the market and even a great idea seed for people who were not aware this product exists. Do update a long term review in terms of usability (hopefully never on deployment). |
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