[venkyhere]

Originally Posted by shubhodeepdas@g

[*]Kid does not cry when he / she is holding the steering

This just redefined "ridiculous" in my dictionary.

This is not the first time I'm aware of this practise, though. Once on an overnight journey in a volvo bus (which was doing 100+) speeds, at a toll booth, in the neighbouring lane, I could clearly see through the large window of the bus, how a guy was driving a packed-to-the-brim ecosport with an infant sitting in his lap (sleeping facing his chest, max 2 yrs old). My eyes bulged out when I saw the same sight 2 toll booths after. That's around 150 or so highway km's minimum, driving with an infant on the lap.

[AltoLXI]

Two lives were lost and two are in critical condition - all because of a wrong indicator.

Link

It appears that car driver Nagendra and police vehicle driver were both confused by the wrong indicator shown by the biker.

Hoskote-bound biker Hemant Kumar slowed down to move to the left side of the road, but by mistake, he had switched on the two-wheeler’s right indicator

and this happened...

Confused by the biker’s movements, the police vehicle driver coming in the opposite direction slowed down. Nagendra, who was behind Hemant, veered to the extreme right of the road, hit the bike and collided head-on with the police vehicle.

resulting in...

Police have registered a case against Nagendra under IPC section 304A (causing death by negligence) and various sections of the Motor Vehicles Act. Both vehicles were seized for probe

Why the biker is allowed to go scot free, while the car driver has been slapped with negligence case? The biker was clearly in the wrong and confused the driver. Even if assuming the driver had allowed for safe distance from the bike, and started moving towards left seeing the indicator, the time to move towards right would have been tad less to avoid hitting the biker.

[binand]

Originally Posted by AltoLXI

Why the biker is allowed to go scot free, while the car driver has been slapped with negligence case?

Apparently the car was overspeeding. Looking at the location in Google Maps, it is a dead straight stretch of about 4-5 km. As per a report in The Hindu, the biker indicated left and turned right. The car driver then couldn't slow down or abort the overtake; instead went into the opposite lane and hit the police vehicle coming the other way. The charge seems totally appropriate.

Note: All papers are quoting the cops, so it is primarily their version. I imagine they have some tough questions to answer because they were escorting a VIP, so they will push only versions where they come out totally innocent.

[boohooper]

Originally Posted by blackasta

Further ascertains my assumption that considering the way they ride, 99% of the bike / 2 wheeler riders on road are alive due to the alertness and benevolence of the 4/6/8/higher wheeler drivers.

Which in fact is very true. Overtaking from the left seems to be a favorite pass-time of theirs

These 4kwits need to drive or sit in a 4/6/8 wheeler to know what we drivers undergo and the blind spots we have as they buzz around like pesky flies without a care in the world. Morons!

[Midas]

Originally Posted by boohooper

These 4kwits need to drive or sit in a 4/6/8 wheeler to know what we drivers undergo and the blind spots we have as they buzz around like pesky flies without a care in the world. Morons!

I'm of the opinion that everyone should first learn and drive 4 wheelers before starting to ride 2 wheeler. Many people seem to be oblivious to the fact that the gap on left becomes smaller when larger vehicles take a left turn at bends. The way they try to overtake from left when larger vehicles are turning left "with indicators on", almost becoming sandwiched at turns is really frustrating.
Then there are those morons who know all these, but still don't care. No comments on them

[binand]

Originally Posted by Midas

Many people seem to be oblivious to the fact that the gap on left becomes smaller when larger vehicles take a left turn at bends.

Mid-ish last week, Bangalore. The road from IRR towards Challaghata that goes between the golf course and EGL Business Park. If you are familiar with the location, you'll know that there is a sharp left turn immediately before you reach the EGL security gate. The carriageway is only about a water tanker wide.

Exactly the same thing you mention happened to me. While I was taking that left turn, this dude on an Activa tried to overtake me from the left. I noticed only when I felt the impact. Stopped a bit ahead (not blocking traffic). Nothing major, a scratch on the rear bumper on the left. The dude was shaken a bit but didn't fall.

Anyway, as is my wont these days I launched into a graphic description of what could have happened. In brief, that he'd have fallen, his helmet would have saved his life, though probably my car's rear wheels would have found his legs, unlikely his bones would have survived the 1 tonne+ load on them and would simply crumble, that they'd have to be amputated, and would he care to imagine life after that?

Looked as if he was shaken but I might have been mistaken. But going into a detailed description of what could happen is something I've decided to continue.

See also: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/stree...ml#post4495580 (Rants on Bangalore's traffic situation)

[Arwin07]

The sad story of cars entering opposite lane and colliding head on after suffering tyre burst continues.

Pic courtesy: Newstm.in article.

4 out of 5 occupants of a Brezza died when it collides head on with a bus after tyre burst near Trichy, TN.

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/tric...w/66692863.cms

My worst fear is to be the innocent vehicle that suffers in the correct lane just for being in the wrong place in the wrong time because of the vehicles ploughing into wrong side either due to tyre burst or driver dozing off. 2 lanes should be separated by either distance or uncrossable barriers.



Linking a very useful article about how to prevent tyre burst and how to handle the car after tyre burst:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/drive...t-blowout.html

[arun_josie]

Originally Posted by Arwin07

My worst fear is to be the innocent vehicle that suffers in the correct lane just for being in the wrong place in the wrong time because of the vehicles ploughing into wrong side either due to tyre burst or driver dozing off. 2 lanes should be separated by either distance or uncrossable barriers.

In some stretches, NHAI has made it even tougher to spot such vehicles by growing bushes on the divider. This also invites cattle

On the NICE road in bangalore, the gap between the roads are wider, but there are people who are still skilled enough to hit other lane.

[locusjag]

Meanwhile there is no chance in hell our National Highways can be improved upon by acquiring more land so as to provide enough gap or a ditch between the two sides of traffic. You know there'll be protests by landowners since in India land acquisition is an unsorted thing still.

A solution could be to erect a concrete divider which is 4 feet tall on all the highways. But this is something I don't see happening either, since this needs to be a felt need on the part of the government before any steps are taken to address the issue.

Not driving on our highways seems the best bet. What can anyone do when cars hurtle at you on the highway, for no fault of yours?

[suresh_gs]

Originally Posted by locusjag

Meanwhile there is no chance in hell our National Highways can be improved upon by acquiring more land so as to provide enough gap or a ditch between the two sides of traffic. You know there'll be protests by landowners since in India land acquisition is an unsorted thing still.

A solution could be to erect a concrete divider which is 4 feet tall on all the highways. But this is something I don't see happening either, since this needs to be a felt need on the part of the government before any steps are taken to address the issue.

Not driving on our highways seems the best bet. What can anyone do when cars hurtle at you on the highway, for no fault of yours?

When people do not bother to maintain their own vehicles, how can we expect them to pay attention to tyres. Mindset of people is to load the vehicles beyond their capacity and drive fast as possible on the highways even if it is raining.

People do not have the judgement of what is their vehicle capacity. The problem is even compounded if they own a SUV . More powerful the vehicle engine is , the more faster / rash it should be driven.

Trust me apart from driving fast, they will understand the technical aspects like toppling of SUVs due to higher CG, tyre pressure, overloading....

[Masda]

Originally Posted by boohooper

That was no brake check. That was almost like a deliberate attempt to murder. If the camera bikes' foot peg had not got snagged on the fallen rider's pant and dragged him away this would have ended differently. Also NOTE Lorry Driver tries to run over the bike that's under it.

Those two bikers are lucky, very lucky to be alive! Doing speeds of over 130 on our highways, overtaking through narrow gaps, and to top it all trying to snap out the truck's side view mirror while moving are actions that border along the lines of insanity. And you are right about the trucker.

[shubhodeepdas@g]

Originally Posted by boohooper

That was no brake check. That was almost like a deliberate attempt to murder. If the camera bikes' foot peg had not got snagged on the fallen rider's pant and dragged him away this would have ended differently. Also NOTE Lorry Driver tries to run over the bike that's under it.

The two bikers are going at 150+ speeds, they nearly collide halfway through the video, the biker with the helmet cam overtakes an already overtaking lorry (when he looks back, there is traffic visible on the lorry's left). This is not an attempted murder, it's an attempted suicide. The biker (red) is arguing sitting in a blind spot with the helper with only the camera bike visible to the driver. It's very likely that he has no idea of the existence of the red bike.

Originally Posted by Masda

Those two bikers are lucky, very lucky to be alive! Doing speeds of over 130 on our highways, overtaking through narrow gaps, and to top it all trying to snap out the truck's side view mirror while moving are actions that border along the lines of insanity. And you are right about the trucker.

I regularly come across these kind of bikers on NICE who think it is ok to overtake between two trucks or cars going at 70-80 kph or even on the far right or left shoulder. The problem is, if anything goes wrong, the biker dies and it is the truck driver who's life gets over trying to prove his innocence in a country where the bigger vehicle is always to blame.

Camera bike also wheelies twice in the video.

[SCORPION]

Bikers who ride in groups think they have safety in numbers. They think they own the road. Most of these group rides are quite annoying to other road users because they all want to be together all the time. And if they are riding fully kitted, God save you. They become superhumans. You will get nasty gestures for overtaking them or honking when they annoyingly weave around you at speed. I hate these guys.

In this case, the biker got what he deserved. I hope he and his annoying camera weilding friend have learnt their lesson and that his bike is a complete write off.

[airbus]

Originally Posted by Arwin07

The sad story of cars entering opposite lane and colliding head on after suffering tyre burst continues.

There is also probability that tyre burst is due to loss of control of the vehicle and coming in contact with the median.

[for_cars1]

Originally Posted by Arwin07

The sad story of cars entering opposite lane and colliding head on after suffering tyre burst continues.

Originally Posted by airbus

There is also probability that tyre burst is due to loss of control of the vehicle and coming in contact with the median.

Very true, need not even be loss of control, just driving on the extreme right lane close to the divider for long distances dramatically increases the risk of coming in contact/hitting the median and flipping over to the other side.

The right most lane is just meant for quick overtaking and one should always return back to the left lane after overtaking. Driving continuously on the right most lane is extremely risky, all it will take is a minute nudge of the steering to crash into the median/nudge.