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Old 18th October 2022, 10:11   #36601
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Stupidity levels people cross to gain some bragging rights, although this one had more than that.

Posting here but can be moved to funny incidents thread.
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Its GIRLS....GIRLS were the reason for this accident
The peacock shows off its feathers, the male antelope its horns, the lion its mane & roar and the male homo sapien shows off its......

Oh those hormones!
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Old 18th October 2022, 10:24   #36602
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How many of you think this is a staged accident?

For me, the helmet of the scooty rider gave the hint.

https://Youtube.com/watch?v=XXcQjafNZB0?feature=share
This may be a staged one, poor acting chops, agreed. But we cannot generalize on that, by looking at the helmet the guy is wearing. For small errands and small runs also, I used to take my Shoei or HJC. My policy is it's your head, so use the best protective gear. Accidents can happen anywhere.

My co-brother @kozhissery religiously wears all gear even when he is going to buy milk. He had a small accident on his old thunderbird and had a small hairline fracture on his thumb as he was not wearing gloves. It took him almost six months to heal. So it's better to be in full gears.
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Old 18th October 2022, 10:28   #36603
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Another major accident
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/vado...w/94931898.cms
As claimed, the bus hit the trailer while overtaking. What would have been the difference in speed unless the Bus crashed into some other stationary thing ?
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This is sad. In the video you could see the passengers encouraging the driver to hit the 300 mark! It's definitely a case of a rash driving. It's an open invitation for a disaster.
Just watching that video raised my BP! Apparently when they were going at 130+ they weren't even wearing seat belts! Driver tells them to put their seat belts on before pressing on the gas. The guy at the wheel was apparently a doctor! Everyone was in mid 30s. It was not a bunch of hot blooded teens.

I wonder why is the blame being laid on the poor container driver? They could have hit anyone and got killed as well as caused the death of the unfortunate person.
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Old 18th October 2022, 11:04   #36605
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In a case of fatal accident, all 4 occupants of fast driven BMW were killed.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/doc...w/94902927.cms

It is confirmed that they were overspeeding and crashed into a container truck, case has been registered against the truck driver. Also threat of cases against Road maintenance officials. What pathetic laws.
In my opinion, the accident may be considered as 'Suicide' and all Insurance payments be stopped to the beneficiaries.
Frankly, These idiots deserve no sympathy. These type of people create unsafe driving environment on the road and pose other people safety at Stake. The video clearly shows that the driver was keen on showing off his so called exemplary (self-proclaimed) speeding skills and turned a public road into a racing track.

What if such an over speeding car ram into multiple vehicles (Cars or Bikes) ? Lot of innocent people would have lost their lives .
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Old 18th October 2022, 11:32   #36606
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I am not sure if this has been already posted in the thread yet, but I see a lot of Youtube Shorts/ Instagram Reels misusing the ADAS feature in Mahindra already. Below is one where the driver comes out of the car to show his skills off. I guess manufacturers should bring about a way in which this is not misused.

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Old 18th October 2022, 11:33   #36607
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I do not know who is more stupid : one who stipulated laws that in case of an accident, it is the bigger vehicle that is at fault or one who interprets the law in this manner ?
If a Scooter has an accident with a Cyclist, it is the Scooter driver who is booked, although, it may be the Cyclist who was at fault. But, if the same Scooter hits a Car, it would be the Car driver held responsible. Now if the Car crashes into a Truck, poor Truck driver will be held guilty. What a vicious cycle ?
In case you are an innocent driver charged and held responsible for the accident, just because your vehicle was bigger. It may take years of court appearances and other hardships before walking away 'Not Guilty'. Over speeding and rash driving sections would be added to your list of charges for no reason.
Just miss a court appearance and your bail will be cancelled and Non-Bailable warrants will be issued.
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Old 18th October 2022, 11:45   #36608
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While we can keep on finding faults with drivers and road design etc but why no one is raising that why manufacturers are allowed to sell cars that can reach insane speeds. There are various things responsible for accidents and in most cases speed and driver are the primary factor
1. Limit the speed of vehicle to whatever is legally permissible during manufacturing or 10 to 20 percent more. So if speed limit is 90 kmph then it should be 120 kmph so that vehicle cannot cross this (there would be people who would have workaround for this). And there are many on this forum who will criticise me for this
2. Deny insurance if the car is speeding above the speed limit specified for the road. This should include vehicle insurance, accident insurance, life insurance etc.
3. Heavy penalty and put the person in jail for couple of months. This should be applicable to people who drive on the wrong side
4. Impound the vehicle if found over speeding
5. Driver training. I have seen 18-19 years old guys driving heavy trucks. This needs to be moved to say 25 years or 30 years of age.
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230 kmph .

Can't even imagine that speed on public roads!.

The driver is a dummy at that speed. The car is rolling along on its own.
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300Kmph FB Live for speed record in BMW. Sadly this involves young people who are educated - doctor, engineer in their BMW to attain 300 kmph live. But they dint survive to see their video later.
It seems they were somehow possessed. Possessed by foolishness.

On an access controlled test track, I frequently drive vehicles well over 150+ kmph and sometimes upto 190~200 kmph for max. speed tests. And it requires all my training and concentration to do this. Can't imagine why people even attempt more than 120kmph on Indian public highways. It suicidal.

When on public expressways, I keep speed around 95~98kmph, in the middle lane, with cruise control engaged. Rarely go above 100. Yet there have been few close calls, either due to someone coming fast from behind and cutting in, or some random bovine, dog or human being crossing across the median. It's quite stressful and dangerous to drive at higher speeds.

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In a case of fatal accident, all 4 occupants of fast driven BMW were killed.

It is confirmed that they were overspeeding and crashed into a container truck, case has been registered against the truck driver. Also threat of cases against Road maintenance officials. What pathetic laws.
In my opinion, the accident may be considered as 'Suicide' and all Insurance payments be stopped to the beneficiaries.
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Regarding the BMW accident, the police is now looking for the absconding container truck driver. We have a really sad state of law affairs where even the police works without using their common sense.
Truck driver will suffer in multiple ways : loss of truck & livelihood, legal case and mental trauma from such an incident.

I have ZERO sympathy with the occupants of the car.
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Old 18th October 2022, 12:55   #36610
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Just watching that video raised my BP! Apparently when they were going at 130+ they weren't even wearing seat belts! Driver tells them to put their seat belts on before pressing on the gas. The guy at the wheel was apparently a doctor! Everyone was in mid 30s. It was not a bunch of hot blooded teens.

I wonder why is the blame being laid on the poor container driver? They could have hit anyone and got killed as well as caused the death of the unfortunate person.
Disasters are almost never are due to a single identifying cause but rather a chain of unfortunate events which remain unbroken during the buildup.

Given my experience on roads and expressways in UP, it seems a world in itself!
Lots of unwritten rules and unspoken rituals are taken for granted, feudal/privileged mindset is definitely not uncommon.

Talking specifically about Purvanchal expressway - nobody seems to bat an eyelid on speeding traffic in the fast lane pouring in your face from the opposite direction - more fun of that sort without daylight.
The expressway has too many 'sharp' turns, lesser quality as compared to Agra-Lucknow one and has one too many eager, enthusiastic, 'spirited' and 'Dabangg' users.

Prediction - It will take many such incidents before things start to even out / intervened by authorities

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Old 18th October 2022, 12:57   #36611
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In a case of fatal accident, all 4 occupants of fast driven BMW were killed.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/doc...w/94902927.cms

It is confirmed that they were overspeeding and crashed into a container truck, case has been registered against the truck driver. Also threat of cases against Road maintenance officials. What pathetic laws.
In my opinion, the accident may be considered as 'Suicide' and all Insurance payments be stopped to the beneficiaries.
This is just stupid & careless driving. People need to remember that no car in this world is safe when it comes to accidents and high speeds. We don't have 100% perfect roads yet and you can't control others on road. You never know who can come in between, from anywhere or from nowhere, sad but true. Better to drive sedately so that at least you are in better control.
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In a case of fatal accident, all 4 occupants of fast driven BMW were killed.
I would have been more shocked if this accident hadn't happened and been deadly. Safety is always placed in the backseat.

The truck driver's plight is quite sad.
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The most shocking thing is that the one driving was a Doctor! According to news article: "Dr Anand Prakash, a 35-year-old professor in a private medical college in Bihar's Rohtas, was apparently at the wheel when the BMW hit 230kmph amid the excited chatter of his co-passengers in the background, police said."

How on earth can a Doctor do that? His profession was to save people's lives! This is unbelievable. That's why controlling speed and road safety education in school should be the topmost priority. Simply clapping and praising 5-star rated cars doesn't change a damn thing on Indian roads.
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While we can keep on finding faults with drivers and road design etc but why no one is raising that why manufacturers are allowed to sell cars that can reach insane speeds. There are various things responsible for accidents and in most cases speed and driver are the primary factor
Why blame the manufacturers, when the same Cars are speeding on the such high speed on Autobahns in Germany and do not cause accidents ?
In USA, people are fascinated with Muscle Cars, although speed limits are considerably low and strictly enforced.
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Old 18th October 2022, 13:56   #36615
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I am not sure if this has been already posted in the thread yet, but I see a lot of Youtube Shorts/ Instagram Reels misusing the ADAS feature in Mahindra already. Below is one where the driver comes out of the car to show his skills off. I guess manufacturers should bring about a way in which this is not misused.

https://Youtu.be/pQ3Bl5xkeR8
Like drowsiness detection system, the manufacturers should come up with stupidity detection system, right ?

Irrespective of whatever mechanism the manufacturers come up with, there will be such idiots who misuse things. IMO, there should be awareness and respect towards the safety of oneself and the others on road. If they dont follow the rules and caught doing such stunts posing threat to others road users, they should be dealt with seriously.

Hunt them down and levy huge fines and severe punishments. This will be the good start to control such morons.
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