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Old 3rd January 2023, 13:09   #37171
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This happened somewhere near Salem.

Why is he in the right lane,when he had to turn left? When he's waiting there on the right lane,the bus might have thought, he will turn right.
Almost beyond belief. I am never surprised at someone just stopping in the middle of the road to wonder where to go next --- in the city, not on a highway!

From madness 1, he moves to madness 2: did he not look at all for traffic coming from behind? It looks like he didn't. Or is he actually hard-to-believe arrogant enough to think that the world will stop for him?

I don't believe that these crazy guys would walk around the streets blindfold --- so why do they drive as if they are?
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Old 3rd January 2023, 13:25   #37172
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The statistics are collected from the incident time as reported by the highway patrol vehicles or the local police. In all cases of bus accidents, the data is never logged and the driver-conductor due arranges for alternative arrangements without reporting anything. The collection of these statistics is an unclean data source, as official as it may be.

You see, the incident report time can be when
1. A distress call is received (or)
2. An FIR is lodged (or)
3. When the police reaches the spot (or)
4. When the insurance company registers the time.

None of the parties have any audit liability.

In a few cases, pre-collected data (such as a timecoded CCTV footage) makes the authorities write exact time if the media attention brings facts to light.

The police wouldn't rush to the spot within 10 minutes. The hospital reports are generated a few hours later. The insurance companies sometimes suggest people to report a 'daytime' statistic for claims and waivers for writing off their claim.

The people who face the accident have the intention of securing themselves first, then the vehicle (if still roadworthy) and definitely someone involved in a situation in the odd hours would rely more on getting on to their destination and reporting it later for their own well-being. The police sometimes also assumes that maybe a fast driver is absconding or running away from something as they hardly understand the lifestyle of people who routinely enjoy moving at a higher average speed.

Yes, if you are within the city limits of a prominent place, the police-ambulance do arrive together be it day or night. But for majority of the misfortunes, its humble passersby who are of greatest help and that 'statistic' is lost upon us.
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Old 3rd January 2023, 14:39   #37173
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This happened somewhere near Salem.

https://mobile.twitter.com/dhans4all...49534963568640

Why is he in the right lane,when he had to turn left? When he's waiting there on the right lane,the bus might have thought, he will turn right.
While the car driver is stupid and bus driver is reckless, our NHAI is equally responsible for these kind of accidents. Newer highways are being built with gradual exits off the highway with proper markings of where the exit goes to. The kind of 4 road junctions, as seen in that video, are rare in newer constructions. So, if the realization of dangers from such blind lane merger is already there, then what is preventing NHAI from fixing the older highways where countless lives are being lost because of the bad road designs compounding driver errors.
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Old 3rd January 2023, 15:20   #37174
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The kind of 4 road junctions, as seen in that video, are rare in newer constructions. So, if the realization of dangers from such blind lane merger is already there, then what is preventing NHAI from fixing the older highways where countless lives are being lost because of the bad road designs compounding driver errors.
The standard response to this issue by the authorities is to put half a dozen metal barricades on the highway to slow the highway traffic down. Of course it turns into advertisement avenues and companies sponsor said barricades for safety.

Most of the National highways in Tamil Nadu were made during the first phase of Golden Quadrilateral and North South corridor, hence the old designs. While work is going on to construct flyovers near urban centres, there still remains lots of suf 4 way junctions, with TVS 50s crossing the highway without as much as checking in any direction or slowing down.

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Old 3rd January 2023, 16:58   #37175
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Stupidity at its best. A video from Manipur. Probably the guy was trying to race with the Gypsy. This could have gone wrong in so many ways instead of just hitting the sidewalks. The guy should thank his lucky stars!
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Road Ministry has released the road accidents statistics.

Most accidents occur between 6PM to 9PM
Safest Time on the Roads is between 12AM-6AM
Statistics is a very tricky subject. Govt. can unintentionally mislead the general public into believing something which is not true.

In this particular case, the time period of 12 am to 6 am is called the safest time merely based on the number of accidents/fatalities.

We know that most fatalities happen for pedestrians and two-wheelers. Now, this population set is least seen during the night.

Hence, claiming this specific time as safe period is incorrect. If two-wheeler riders starts preferring night travel based on this data, they are getting into big trouble!

In my driving career I have seen more fatal accidents during the dark. My highway drives are 10% during the night and 90% during the day. I am pretty sure that driving during the dark is most unsafe driving on Indian roads.

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Old 5th January 2023, 15:34   #37177
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A truck went out of control at the Jogeshwari-Vikhroli Link Road (JVLR), near Western Express Highway, Mumbai, and hit three cars and a bike. One person was killed and one injured, apart from the damages caused. The truck after moving out of control between 8.10-8.20 pm on Tuesday 03/01 had hit a metro pillar first before hitting the four vehicles.

The truck driver didn't try to escape as is very common these days. He was arrested.

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He's driving at 150 km speed so he is to blame for it what was he really thinking ?

Hope he learns a massive lesson out of this!
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Okay, another Seltos breaking in half in an accident! This one seems to be a recent one and again raises so many questions on the structural integrity of the car. We own a 2021 Creta which didnít do well either in the crash test and these freak cases make us worried sick!

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Horrifying to see the video and am glad that in the end it did not give you too much trouble. I think having the accident captured may have just saved your hide, and a lot of hassle/blame-game.

I've been on the fence regarding getting a dual channel camera and this video and post has helped me make up my mind. Thank you! Could you share the details of the camera? Thanks, in advance.
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Okay, another Seltos breaking in half in an accident! This one seems to be a recent one and again raises so many questions on the structural integrity of the car. We own a 2021 Creta which didnít do well either in the crash test and these freak cases make us worried sick!

https://Youtu.be/UG8TYeEEqEs
The only mitigation is controlled speeds and defensively. For that matter, I don't think many cars - even 5 star rated ones will survive a crash well beyond 80 or 100 kmph barring the luxury brands. It's purely laws of physics at play beyond a point. Most cars are tested at speeds between 56 kmph and 64 kmph depending on the testing agency or country. And even at those speeds and a partial offsets, many cars fail or rated as unstable. So at speeds beyond 64kmph, the impact is anyway likely to be way more heavy.

I had read somewhere that the impact increases in exponential and not a linear way with every hundred percent increase in speeds. So anyone driving a 5 star rated car say at 150kmph and feeling invincible is purely taking a calculated risk. Respect for laws and road conditions (physical condition of the road, traffic conditions, and fellow drivers) are the only factors which will primarily keep you safe. A 5 star rated car is like an insurance. If you don't have one, you need be extra cautious. Better to have one, though.
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Old 7th January 2023, 20:04   #37182
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Okay, another Seltos breaking in half in an accident! This one seems to be a recent one and again raises so many questions on the structural integrity of the car. We own a 2021 Creta which didnít do well either in the crash test and these freak cases make us worried sick!

https://Youtu.be/UG8TYeEEqEs
Looks like a crash at extremely high speeds. And the guy says that one passenger may have survived, which is quite surprising in itself. Only takeaway is that don't drive in crazy high speeds. I would not do this even in luxury cars, let alone "budget" mid-size SUVs, no matter which brand.

I really hate the focus on "stars" (typical of this channel) rather than the lack of safe/defensive driving. Which is the MOST important thing. And let them actually get clarity on how it happened in the first place.
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Old 7th January 2023, 21:33   #37183
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Absolutely agree that a high speed crash would result in a catastrophic accident, regardless of what car you drive. Plus Iím not a big fan of ďhow many starsĒ bandwagon. Defensive driving is the best approach in a country like India which is full of morons. But one just canít ignore the fact that some cars are poorly built - with questionable structural integrity. A well built car will have a better chance to save your life, no second thought about it.

We own a VW Vento, first gen Creta and 2021 Creta. There is a considerable amount of difference in how the 2021 Creta is built vs the other two - there are squeaks and creaks which the other two donít have with more than 7 years of ownership! The 2021 Creta feels light and weak (for the lack of better expressions). Do we feel confident of driving this car at say 100kmph? NO! Not that we drive fast anyway, as everyone in our family is a sedate driver, but we know that the two older cars in our garage will protect us better than the newer one. And thatís really the whole point.
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Apparently a sand truck rammed the abarth from the back when car was stationary behind other vehicles.
Do you have more details? Looks like it was a config like this :
Heavy vehicle->Abarth-> Truck

Looking at images the Abarth must have gotten pushed under the truck/bus in front of it since the entire roof has been sheared off above bonnet level.
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Statistics is a very tricky subject. Govt. can unintentionally mislead the general public into believing something which is not true.
It takes brains even to mislead. In this case it must be some incompetent corrupt official as usual who doesn't care a hoot about the meaning/interpretation of the numbers.
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