[dust-n-bones]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/11-k...ndtv_topscroll

Another day, another case of a stationary vehicle on a highway rammed from behind. This time, on a bridge in Rajasthan, stuck because the bus had run out of fuel, of all things possible on our roads.

11 people added to the grim reaper toll.

[amavin]

(Warning - gruesome pictures)

This was shared on Twitter by the Karnataka Police ADGP for Traffic and Road Safety a couple of days back: https://x.com/alokkumar6994/status/1...599375405?s=20

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by amavin

(Warning - gruesome pictures)

Thank you for the warning. People are forgetting to put them on posts these days. As a result, I'm tending to avoid all the videos in this thread.

(of course, it might be a good idea if some drivers/riders were forced to watch those videos)

[SLK]

Originally Posted by amavin

(Warning - gruesome pictures)

This was shared on Twitter by the Karnataka Police ADGP for Traffic and Road Safety a couple of days back: https://x.com/alokkumar6994/status/1...599375405?s=20

Now compare this to the Jimmy-Bolero accident. The load bearing bodies of these vehicles is made of solid angle-irons, nothing will survive this on impact, specifically side-swipes.

[jaaz]

Most of the overtaking gone wrong disasters are caused by underpowered vehicles. This is my personal opinion. If your vehicle is adequately powered, you'll not take the risk and wait for an opportunity to overtake. Whereas an underpowered vehicle will just try to maintain their speed and fear a drop in speed will be time consuming to gain the same speed again.

This is more evident in buses fitted with speed governors.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by jaaz

Most of the overtaking gone wrong disasters are caused by underpowered vehicles. ...

No. Most of them are caused by underbrained/undertrained drivers.

And if you are saying that the slow guy in front causes the accidents, then the answer is patience behind, not giving him more power.

[NG_EV]

I crossed an accident today on Delhi Meerut Expressway where a bus veered off the Expressway and fell down injuring about 20 people.

Time: Should be between 4:15 and 4:30 pm. Emergency vehicles had not arrived when I crossed.

https://twitter.com/htTweets/status/1702325090376184226

As one user rightly pointed out, what is the use of such poorly built crash barriers? There was a video of some truck on hilly region and the crash barriers there held up.

[epiccross]

Originally Posted by jaaz

Most of the overtaking gone wrong disasters are caused by underpowered vehicles. This is my personal opinion.

Honestly, it's just that, your personal opinion. To add to what TGT said, plenty of crashes (see the thread for examples) in "overtaking gone wrong" cases are caused by impatient, rash drivers. I have no idea where you get this notion from tbh.

[jaaz]

It is obvious that any vehicle can't be driven on its own and you need a Driver. Also, it is common sense that most of the accidents happen due to stupid and rash drivers. I've mentioned as personal opinion, not to hurt anyone personally, because 80% of the vehicles sold in India are underpowered.

My opinion is based on observing drivers on day to day basis for more than 40 years in India. So, before blaming others, understand the subject matter and give your opinion. This forum is to share information.

I've also discussed the above subject with psychologists, traffic police, professors etc., Gone through a thesis on traffic management written by a Commissioner of Police, observed and driven in Europe and Americas.

Lets not distract ourselves and get back to comments on how to avoid accidents.

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

No. Most of them are caused by underbrained/undertrained drivers.

And if you are saying that the slow guy in front causes the accidents, then the answer is patience behind, not giving him more power.

Sorry, you have completely mis-understood the line. But I completely agree with your first line. It's more related to psychology.

[RavenAvi]

Road rage or errors in judgements? Or both?

XUV700 driver says "me first", dashcam-car driver says "me first".

Could have been really worse than how it all actually ended in.

https://www.facebook.com/hvkumar/vid...ibextid=4zoUgC

Source - HV Kumar (via Whatsapp forward)

[StarrySky]

Originally Posted by RavenAvi

Road rage or errors in judgements? Or both?

It's an error of judgement induced by being blinded by road rage.

It definitely looks like the driver with the dashcam deliberately cut too close to the XUV, as payback for the XUV's blocking at the start of video. In the process he did a PIT maneuver on himself. Although we don't know if the XUV moved left.

[NomadSK]

Originally Posted by RavenAvi

Road rage or errors in judgements? Or both?

A clear cocktail of driver aggression / ego/ narcissist behavior / near misses and unsafe acts resulting into an incident.

Thank goodness no innocent/bystander on the road or the bike guy almost at the end of the video was injured due to the craziness of both the drivers.

[anjan_c2007]

A 14 year old driving an Innova in Chandivali, Mumbai, hits a parked three wheeler and then knocks down a senior citizen whose life is luckily saved. He is advised bedrest for the next three months.

The video can be viewed on this twitter link:-

https://twitter.com/ChandivaliCCWA/s...XI6z0OnzA&s=19

Quoting the tweet from yesterday by the Chandivali Citizens Welfare Association

A 14-year-old hits a senior citizen at Nahar Amrit Shakti Road, Chandivali. Senior citizen is now advised to go on bedrest for the next 3 months. Parents penalised for 5K. This is a major safety concern for pedestrians when parents hand over their cars to kids. @CPMumbaiPolice
@MTPHereToHelp @MumbaiPolice

[MyLife_MyCar]

Originally Posted by RavenAvi

Road rage or errors in judgements? Or both?

XUV guy (got big car, small brain) had no courtesy to give an indicator or check lanes before making the manoeuvre. Although, we don't know if there was already some road rage going on between them before the start of the clip.

But what dashcam guy did was sheer stupidity that could have been easily avoided. Because his ego was hurt, he endangered life of passengers in XUV, life of passengers in his own car (think I can hear a woman scream at the end), damaged the truck and potentially could have hit a bike or bystander.

As we were discussing few posts back, patience is the key on the Indian roads.
It's ok to momentarily get a fit of rage or even hurl expletives (within the confinement of your car of course, without the person outside seeing it), if it helps you to calm down. But never ever drive with such an aggression as shown by this driver here.

[vijaykr]

Originally Posted by RavenAvi

Road rage or errors in judgements? Or both?
)

While on one hand this appears to be a completely avoidable accident, on the other it is a clear example of what's more likely to happen on our roads if we don't keep our ego in check and practice patience. As others have observed, the driver here has put a lot of lives at risk all just to prove a point.

In addition to the cost of time, energy and money spent to get the vehicles back into shape, the passengers in both cars might also need time to recover mentally from the shock of a drive suddenly gone awry. Unfortunate!