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Old 20th September 2024, 11:23   #41146
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accident on golfcourse road Gurgaon, biker was hit by a car driving on wrong side. It was mentioned that biker was died(not sure though). Looks like biker was speeding little bit but he doesn't deserve this.
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Our roads are just getting scarier with the passing of each day. Without strict policing it will only get worse.

Most of us are prey to the "monkey see, monkey do" syndrome. Just wish basic common sense would prevail.

The "SLOW" markings on the road seemed to scream at the rider in this case but alas it was not meant to be.

I am no biker so was wondering what prompted him to go from extreme left to right considering road was pretty much empty.
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Its highly likely the biker was riding the way he was riding to get a good video capture by his friend?

Though it clearly car's fault for driving in wrong direction deliberately, the biker definitely appears reckless and cutting lanes quickly at a high speed. He even ignored the SLOW warning before the sharp turn. In any place in India, with experience should come anticipation. One has to be alert and expect the unexpected any moment.

The scenario biker was in, and his speed, there was no way to escape the crash. Not even time to react.

The car driver should be heavily fined and put behind bars for a good amount of time. Hope other road users stop such nuisance and taking roads for granted to drive on wrong side blatantly

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Old 20th September 2024, 12:42   #41148
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Recently met one such absolute idiot driver on NH 19. This post might not have existed if I spotted him late or didn't react in time. Have a look:-
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Old 20th September 2024, 13:29   #41149
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To drive on the wrong side on that road, the car driver must have been habitual one and perhaps having a sense of him being 'above the rest'. Perhaps the law never caught up with him. But karma did. Unfortunately, at the cost of not his but someone else's life.

The bike rider was no rule abider either and is responsible for the accident that cost him his life. He was clearly breaking multiple rules and must have done this all the time successfully. Sadly, not this time. If not the car driving on the wrong side, it could have been anything else - a stationary truck or a broken down vehicle.

While his loss will be mourned, the other guy may be punished and some temporary strictness may come in, one thing that is true is that he will not come back. Every outcome is futile now for the departed person. The world is not perfect and Indian roads are definitely not. Are our roads worth taking such risks where anything can happen anytime? I guess that's where the age and sense of responsibility come into play.

In the larger context, India has a major problem on hand. While better infra and powerful vehicles are now accessible to a big and young population, the road sense, civic sense, fear of law and law enforcement have largely remained ancient.

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Old 20th September 2024, 13:43   #41150
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Both of them absolutely have no regard to road rules. The blinking lights, cutting across lanes at good speed and the following bike taking video may be for reels and unfortunately perished by meeting a bigger violator.
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Old 20th September 2024, 15:13   #41151
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Got this video in whatsapp, accident on golf course road Gurgaon, biker was hit by a car driving on the wrong side. It was mentioned that the biker died(not sure though). Looks like biker was speeding little bit but he doesn't deserve this.

Longer version: https://x.com/sumedhasharma86/status...70664662864030
The car driver is clearly in the wrong for driving on the wrong side of the road. Being a habitual offender and powerful person, he will likely come out on bail and continue doing it.

The biker to navigate a curve goes from the outermost lane to the innermost lane. It is as if he when on to collide intentionally, mostly due to target fixation

Target fixation is an attentional phenomenon observed in humans in which an individual becomes so focused on an observed object (be it a target or hazard) that they inadvertently increase their risk of colliding with the object. More details here and here.
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Old 20th September 2024, 17:22   #41152
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Another day another accident. The driver was allegedly driving under the influence after a birthday party. Happened in Delhi.

https://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/teen...dtv_topstories

"A 19-year-old Delhi University student died after his car crashed into a guardrail near Rajghat in Delhi on Thursday. The victim, Aishwarya Pandey, was returning from Gurugram after celebrating his birthday with his four friends, who were also injured when the guardrail pierced through their vehicle, a Hyundai Venue."
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Another day another accident. The driver was allegedly driving under the influence after a birthday party. Happened in Delhi.

https://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/teen...dtv_topstories

"A 19-year-old Delhi University student died after his car crashed into a guardrail near Rajghat in Delhi on Thursday. The victim, Aishwarya Pandey, was returning from Gurugram after celebrating his birthday with his four friends, who were also injured when the guardrail pierced through their vehicle, a Hyundai Venue."
Looks horrific. Saw the video on X and its sent a shiver down my spine. Guess, its early to conclude what happened in this case but I dread these guard rails in places where they have been installed improperly.

In many a places in our country, we'd see these guard rails starting bluntly - basically without a ramp up section or an angular section or anything that would give a chance to a vehicle to slow down and dissipate some of its kinetic energy. Below article throws some light on the matter which is relevant even in the US.

https://crashforensics.com/papers.cfm?PaperID=53
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Old 20th September 2024, 19:07   #41154
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Another day another accident. The driver was allegedly driving under the influence after a birthday party. Happened in Delhi.
Such a poor design of crash barrier. They are a meticulous piece of engineering which keeps the vehicle on road, preventing rollovers or head on collisions or going out of lane and in no way can pierce the vehicle during crash.

The profile is such that it has to deflect the car back into its lane during the crash and not allow to cross over or go out of the lane. Overlaps of the crash barrier should never be in the direction of the flow of the traffic.

End terminals of the crash barrier are specially designed in a different way specifically so that they don’t intrude or pierce a moving vehicle during crash. I will add a picture soon how the ends are designed, the video was just waiting for this sort of accident to happen. I remember one Scorpio accident (shared on T-Bhp) where a guard rail pierced and the driver lost his leg. Don't know when we will stop accepting substandard works.

But for now we can blame alcoholic driver, cuz that’s the easy way to point finger at and forget the engineer and the contractor who installed the poorly designed barrier to snuff out a life !!

Unfortunately, sorry state of affairs from top down.
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Old 20th September 2024, 20:34   #41155
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This is how the crash barrier should have been installed with the tapered section while entering and no way it would intrude in the cabin if installed correctly.
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Old 20th September 2024, 21:13   #41156
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The car driver is clearly in the wrong for driving on the wrong side of the road. Being a habitual offender and powerful person, he will likely come out on bail and continue doing it.
Whatever happens in an accident, the first blame is on Speed. Whatever minor or major errors the Biker has committed, cannot be justified to expect him to face a Car on the Wrong side. The Car Driver is at outright mistake. Nothing can be justified for his foolishness, that too on a 6-lane road with a divider. The very purpose of having wide road with 3 lanes on each side is to move the traffic at a faster pace.

Car prices have gone up from 5L to 10L to 20L and now 30 lakhs average, but the mentality to save 20, 30 rupees on fuel is causing these mishaps. Sometimes it can be to save time, but you are wasting others time by driving on the wrong side.

Many drivers, wait for 2-5 minutes to take a U turn (blocking other vehicles), than go ahead and take a turn at roundabout (sometimes 100 to 200 meters).
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Old 20th September 2024, 23:44   #41157
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The car driver is clearly in the wrong for driving on the wrong side of the road. Being a habitual offender and powerful person, he will likely come out on bail and continue doing it.

The biker to navigate a curve goes from the outermost lane to the innermost lane. It is as if he when on to collide intentionally, mostly due to target fixation

Target fixation is an attentional phenomenon observed in humans in which an individual becomes so focused on an observed object (be it a target or hazard) that they inadvertently increase their risk of colliding with the object. More details here and here.
Seen the video. I just want to add that the biker should have been more careful because his types are always under the maximum risk amongst all categories of road users. It could have been a broken down vehicle or just a tanker watering the divider plants or a sitting cow. The result in any of the conditions would have been more or less similar. The roads are full of morons. And god has placed them so strategically that you encounter them at every corner. Apart from these morons, all It takes is a 50 grams stone to turn your weekend ride into your last ride.

Ride slow, Ride Safe, Arrive safe.

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Old 21st September 2024, 00:30   #41158
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Given how rampant is wrong way driving in India, not sure why 'one way spikes' are not installed across important intersections of our highways.

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Photo courtesy: https://www.onewayspikes.com/

This, combined with prominent road-signs indicating their presence, should be a sufficient deterrent.
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Old 21st September 2024, 02:00   #41159
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The bike rider was no rule abider either and is responsible for the accident that cost him his life. He was clearly breaking multiple rules and must have done this all the time successfully. Sadly, not this time. If not the car driving on the wrong side, it could have been anything else - a stationary truck or a broken down vehicle.
This is somewhat on point - may be the biker deserved to be in an accident, but not at the hands of someone who was driving in opposite direction in the fast lane, which somehow we have normalized in India, that it is somewhat expected. It will soon become a law in India, that all lanes in all roads are multi-directional - we can expect traffic from front/back/left/right/up/down.

Consider more scenario's:

-What if the biker did not change the lane, and creta appeared driving in opposite direction in his lane - would the biker have been able to stop in time?
-Would the biker have died on impact with a stationary truck? slow moving vehicle in fast lane? broken down vehicle in fast lane? Yes. All of that is even more illegal than unfortunate. It's our apathy for rules and common sense that leads to such accidents.
-Would the biker have a better chance to slow down for a slow moving vehicle? or for a stationary vehicle? Compared to a vehicle that was moving in opposite direction with a fair speed? Are we ignoring some laws of physics here?
-What was creta driver counting on? it could've easily been a truck instead of a bike - he got off super easy. A truck in this lane would've resulted into a very different outcome.

I'm pretty sure we are all monkey balancing facts here and divvying up the burden of crime on both parties. Everyone has a death written in their fate, but that must not be because of someone knowingly plan it for them.

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Old 21st September 2024, 09:41   #41160
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If I am understanding what you are trying to say above then my thoughts are that as a driver in India all of us must know that are roads are filled with stupids. That makes the road a dangerous place already. If we decide to act stupid too by driving at insane speeds and criss crossing lanes, disaster is guaranteed sooner or later.

A cautious and sane driver avoids dozens of mishap on his / her daily commutes. People must understand roads are not race tracks.
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