[donabrh]

Originally Posted by motorsan

Another factor: bald tyres. Most likely the cause of the below accident for example.

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=ZM7frvaW1lc

My guess the wet stretch of road and the speed-drift parallel parking movie stunts inspired the driver, but the driver seems to have come in too fast and hit the sidewalk. Lucky the vehicle did not topple and more lucky was the biker who could have ended up as a traffic cone.

[Cloudwalker]

TN Bus Accident: Came across the news this morning, Both the drivers would have thought the other one would slow down and ended up with a mess.,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWgnG8nJQmM

[Lightning2]

Mahindra Bolero was mainly at fault, he must have waited before crossing the Straight road.

The vehicles coming Into straight roads ( for joining the traffic or for crossing that road ) must wait and Not the flowing straight traffic.

The Bikers was also at fault as his speed was way more for the night hours.

Originally Posted by jigar1791@gmail

This looks bad -
https://x.com/drivesmart_in/status/1...tDR_Iz1pyjm23w

Multiple bikers were racing on what looks like a busy major road (likely, a highway).

Though the Mahindra was very cautious while attempting the turn, it was the biker who is solely responsible for his own death.

While all my sympathies are with him, the biker didn’t even attempt to slow down when he was approaching the crossing.

Result - we all know as evident from the video. RIP.

[jigar1791@gmail]

Originally Posted by Lightning2

Mahindra Bolero was mainly at fault, he must have waited before crossing the Straight road.

The vehicles coming Into straight roads ( for joining the traffic or for crossing that road ) must wait and Not the flowing straight traffic.

In my opinion, the Bolero is not at fault. It was making a very cautious turn perpendicular to the opposite carriageway, where the bikers were speeding recklessly.

If you observe the first biker, he narrowly avoided a collision with the Bolero, being saved by sheer luck. The unfortunate second biker must have clearly seen the Bolero attempting the turn, yet he didn't brake (as can be proved by the absence of brake lights just before the impact). He must have assumed the Bolero would complete the turn and give him a clear path to continue doing reckless speeds.

[balenoed_]

Look at an accident that happened last day in Thrissur, Kerala where the driver sadly passed away.

The interesting thing is the channel reporter claims that the accident is caused by over speeding and rash driving of the bus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8lD9D16H-o

[msdivy]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

The interesting thing is the channel reporter claims that the accident is caused by over speeding and rash driving of the bus.

I’ve seen the full accident video on X, and I can’t help but ask—why this obsession with reckless overtaking? What drives people to constantly attempt maneuvers that are not just dangerous but outright impossible? The man in the YouTube video looks handsome, but what good is that when it’s accompanied by such foolishness? What a senseless way to die!

[Chetan_Rao]

The vehicle ahead of the Aspire is turning right with indicators on, and the oncoming bus is overtaking an auto on a bend so angles would work against the car too.

Darwin award duly awarded and claimed.

[CARDEEP]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Look at an accident that happened last day in Thrissur, Kerala where the driver sadly passed away.

The interesting thing is the channel reporter claims that the accident is caused by over speeding and rash driving of the bus.

Both seem to be at fault. Aspire & Bus driver were overtaking & in the wrong lane. Former tried to correct, but it was too late with little to room to maneuver out of the little space.

As per norm the bigger vehicle takes the blame in almost all accidents. Hence, the bus driver is being blamed.

[ashkamath]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Look at an accident that happened last day in Thrissur, Kerala where the driver sadly passed away.

The interesting thing is the channel reporter claims that the accident is caused by over speeding and rash driving of the bus.

I feel I have become numb, insensitive and less human now a days. Seeing these type of senseless driving, over Speeding, leading to tragic outcome has become too mainstream now.

When the roads were full of potholes and single lane, people blamed accidents for the same and hoped, only if the roads are good and wide, mishaps would reduce and lives would be saved.

Now, the roads are better, people have access to safer, better and faster vehicles and the new speed madness has taken over. The roads where one barely managed to do 50 Kmph, today the speeds are in triple digits. Unfortunately many drivers have no proper formal education in driving, have no idea about their car handling dynamics and limits, and never practiced panic braking in emergency situations.

I don't see the situation improving in future. For every victim of road accident, a dozen new drivers take his place and repeat the same folly and some become statistics while others survive due to sheer luck and their good fate.

The only people I deeply feel sad and sorry are the innocent people around the mishap scene (bystanders, passengers in car/bus) who pay the price with their life for no fault of theirs. Those are the only people for whom my heart sheds a tear. And the perpetrators, the reckless drivers, I have no sympathy or a word of consolation.

The lesson I am learning is to be extremely careful on roads, be on defensive and look out for a crashing vehicle from any direction, all the time. Follow road rules and be as safe as possible. I know even these precautionary measures won't help, but that's the best one can do in the present given situations.

[NomadSK]

Originally Posted by CARDEEP

Both seem to be at fault. Aspire & Bus driver were overtaking & in the wrong lane. Former tried to correct, but it was too late with little to room to maneuver out of the little space.

For some it would be car driver at fault, for some it would be bus driver at fault, for some it would be both at fault.

For me, I'm perplexed to define fault of any one when there are no lane markings on the road (read poor design), how can anyone technically define anyone's fault in such scenarios. If at all, I would blame it on the Govt. engineer, signatory authority who confirmed the fitness of the road. I wish some day these engineers get sleepless nights as the onus lies on them for the loss of life.

Unfortunately, till then keep anticipating such freak accidents on our roads.

[StarrySky]

In my view, the bus driver is significantly at fault.

Yes, the car driver was overtaking and possibly also speeding. But, the bus driver was still behind the auto in his lane and only partially occupying the opposite lane when he could've clearly seen the car overtaking and coming back to its lane. The bus driver could have braked and stayed in his lane at this point, but he then chose to swing out from behind the auto and fully occupy the opposite lane leaving the car with nowhere to go.

[djay99]

While the lack of formal driving test, knowledge of rules of road, right of way, lane discipline is missing, what baffles me everyone seems to be in a race to overtake others. I am travelling to India next week and I am sure it would be worse compared to last year when I was there.

Cars are getting faster and relatively cheaper, while the driving sense is poor which is a dangerous combination. Recently read that every day over 470 people unfortunately die on Indian roads. Isn't it an emergency and not sure when will the RTO, Transport ministry wake up and say enough is enough and implement strict laws and send a strong message.

I feel the best strategy is to assume that anything and everything may go wrong and be prepared.

OT: Recall reading a tweet that some one recently got a Full driving license posted to their address without any driving test. Is this still happening?

[bejoy]

Originally Posted by StarrySky

but he then chose to swing out from behind the auto and fully occupy the opposite lane leaving the car with nowhere to go.

The bus was at speed, the driver clearly saw the car on his extreme left. His judgement to save a collision was to switch lane, the car driver also did the same, but at a very acute, impossible angle.

Saw the reverse angle here on X. The car is not at a high speed, but casually overtaking the taxi only to realize the mistake very late. May be the driver was distracted.

[Street_Smart]

Originally Posted by bejoy

The bus was at speed, the driver clearly saw the car on his extreme left. His judgement to save a collision was to switch lane, the car driver also did the same, but at a very acute, impossible angle.

Saw the reverse angle here on X. The car is not at a high speed, but casually overtaking the taxi only to realize the mistake very late. May be the driver was distracted.

Whatever it is said, none can justify the maneuver of the car. It is purely a blind overtake with no respect to life or people around. Imagine if the auto that was taking the turn was hit by this car, the victim would have been an innocent bread-winning soul. (not justifying the Bus driver either, but the ultimate lose is for the one who exhibited such an irresponsible behavior on a public road). Each one of us, so called "drivers" should bear in mind the safety of people with us, around us and ourselves as well, then none will dare to step on the gas, irresponsibly. My humble view.

[locusjag]

We can each opine what should be done and ought not to be done on the roads. But the fact remains that humans will err. Every driver should drive with the assumption that someone, somewhere at any time will commit a mistake. The upshot of this assumption should result in good old fashioned defensive driving.

* Maintain lane discipline.
* Do not overtake when you don't have a clear field of vision beyond the vehicle in front of you.
* Do not overtake when you don't know the intentions of the vehicle in front of you.
* Stick to a safe speed that suits the road conditions (road width, traffic density, pedestrian presence, presence of animals, weather conditions etc.)

If the car driver and the bus driver had followed these pointers, the accident wouldn't have occurred. Why didn't they stick to these good practices? It's a road in Kerala. The state still has highways which resemble Chennai's city roads. All drivers and especially bus drivers will lose their patience and run amok.

Therefore, expect to see such accidents over and over again. Me? I won't drive to Kerala.