[GreenerPlanet]

Originally Posted by NomadSK

Near miss, it’s a plain accident, someone got hit on the sides with a pool of blood !!
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Unfortunately for the car guy he will have to bear the consequences for no fault of his.

Originally Posted by deathwalkr

And from the looks of it, an innocent bystander got affected :(

Originally Posted by UMe

I don't think it was a near miss, but rather hit & run?
I saw a pedestrian down, flat on his face on the roadside, probably due to the impact of hit

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

What's the analysis of the near miss?

We can understand that the biker is at fault but there's no reaction from the car till the last moment.

https://Youtu.be/88XKsEJ7_TY

After running this on loop a few times, I think I see a smidgen of a frame which looks like the victim was riding a 2 wheeler and was riding opposite lane to car and just at that point he was (?) hit by the wild biker who sped away. The car reacted to that and tried not running over the falling/fallen rider.

Will need a keener eye than me - and aid of slow-mo and magnification to check this.

[chaitanyakrish]

Originally Posted by Entsurgeon

It's very much possible, the biker was continuously in blind spot of car driver due to A-pillar. There's a very good thread started recently that's discussing this on the forum.

Thank You.
I published the other thread which you had mentioned.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/road-...uce-risks.html (Understanding your Vision Limits as a driver / rider to reduce risks)

The purpose of asking the question is, just to make everyone aware of such risks.

I believe there are two possibilities for the driver not to see the biker.

1. He saw the biker, but assumed that the biker would stop or slow down
2. Biker is constantly in the A pillar blindspot of the car and he never saw

A similar situation is depicted in this video clip of a crossroads in the UK and how it caused similar crashes.

Worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYee...annel=TomScott

[ashkamath]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

I believe there are two possibilities for the driver not to see the biker.

1. He saw the biker, but assumed that the biker would stop or slow down
2. Biker is constantly in the A pillar blindspot of the car and he never saw

If the driver saw the biker, then it leads to a tricky situation.

The driver is on main road and has the right of way.
The biker is joining the mainroad from a narrow road..He doesn't have the right of way or precedence over the car driver.

In India, you give way to the vehicle on your right. So on the road, if at any point, two vehicles happen to be side by side ( as in overtaking), then the vehicle on the right has the right of way and precedence over the vehicle on left. That's why in India, the rule is that you always overtake from the right side and never from the left side.

With the above context, if we observe, the biker was at the main road almost at the same time as the car driver and by virtue of being on the right side of the car, he gets the right of way and precedence over the car.

Hence I said it's a tricky situation. The first instance said the driver had right of way because he is on the main road. The second instance says the biker has right of way because he was on the right side the car when both vehicles come close to one another on the main road.

The blind spot theory explained in the attached YouTube video is plausible. However I also think that both car driver and biker could have possibly seen each other, but didn't bother to slow down and continued at the same speed hoping the other vehicle will slow down.
In the end, both Biker and car driver were left unscathed, but an innocent person paid with his life.

[Briarean]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

What's the analysis of the near miss?

We can understand that the biker is at fault but there's no reaction from the car till the last moment.

In India, bikers and auto drivers think they are invincible and that it is others' responsibility to keep them safe. I feel sad when I see kids and elderly people (with no helmets at all) being carried on scooters & bikes, and the driver will do all kinds of crazy manoeuvres to avoid a traffic jam or save a couple of seconds.

As soon as I see one on either of my sides, I will either allow him to pass or overtake him if it is safer.

[rajivr1612]

Not yet an accident, but one waiting to happen.
My experience with bridges and flyovers in Kerala hasn't been great. Most of them have sharp joints at entry and exit which requires slowing down.
Most of the bridges on AC Road was like that, recent ones being better, but I am always wary.
The below clip is from my drive today from Thrissur to Thiruvalla.
Location is the flyover in front of Crowne Plaza Kochi (Maradu flyover?).
A lady with two kids (no less) on a scooter is thrown in the air at the flyover entry, but thankfully landed on both wheels.
Why are these joints designed so badly? Never seen such joints anywhere in TN or MH.

Needs zooming in to have a clear view.

https://youtu.be/_j2Zpc7Mvb4?si=Aqjfvq3AfNCeF13j

[itspatra]

Just received a video of the Convoy of the CM of Kerala involved in a accident. No one seems to be hurt.

https://youtu.be/ZeG43OxY0KI

[msdivy]

Originally Posted by itspatra

Just received a video of the Convoy of the CM of Kerala involved in a accident. No one seems to be hurt.

They drove like train bogies and crashed like train bogies. The convoys don't seem to have the concept of safe following distance.

[kutts]

Originally Posted by itspatra

Just received a video of the Convoy of the CM of Kerala involved in a accident. No one seems to be hurt.

Luckily no one was injured. Posting the video with audio

https://youtu.be/ayJIpQnmV1g?feature=shared

The lady "superstar" crossed the road with the indicator switched on which is commendable. But she of course doesn't understand the meaning of the double yellow cross line.

The CM convoy doesn't of course care about the yellow lines.

It needs to be seen who all will get a challan or will the damage be charged back to us the tax payers.

[rajivr1612]

Originally Posted by kutts

Luckily no one was injured.

The lady "superstar" crossed the road with the indicator switched on which is commendable. But she of course doesn't understand the meaning of the double yellow cross line.

The CM convoy doesn't of course care about the yellow lines.

It needs to be seen who all will get a challan or will the damage be charged back to us the tax payers.

Why is she called "superstar"? She gave proper indicator, waited, and took the turn. The convoys were overtaking over the double yellow lines. These convoys don't care a hoot about others. On Sunday, this same convoy was behind me on the Cherthala stretch.

[BumbleBee201]

Originally Posted by Powerslave

No way that Ford "broke" into two. It was probably cut open for rescue operations. I wonder if the driver ever stood a chance !

Yeah there literally no way for the car to be cut so uniformly throughout

[kutts]

Originally Posted by rajivr1612

Why is she called "superstar"? She gave proper indicator, waited, and took the turn.

Pun intended.

On a serious note, to my knowledge the double yellow lines with the cross ladder markings are to indicate that these lines must never be crossed even to turn to a side road. They are used to represent the equivalent of a solid divider and used in accident prone zones.

[itwasntme]

Originally Posted by kutts

Pun intended.

On a serious note, to my knowledge the double yellow lines with the cross ladder markings are to indicate that these lines must never be crossed even to turn to a side road. They are used to represent the equivalent of a solid divider and used in accident prone zones.

I think it varies from country to country and definitely not clear in India. Double yellow lines are to designate that vehicles must not cross into oncoming traffic lanes. As far as I know, it does not disallow turning into side roads or residences or commercial premises. Of course, this turn is subjected to hyper local traffic restrictions if clearly marked. Happy to be corrected of course!

On another note, that convoy was certainly driving too fast with no safety margin. On KL’s abysmally narrow and crowded streets this was inevitable.

[supremeBaleno]

Originally Posted by kutts

The CM convoy doesn't of course care about the yellow lines.

Why does 1 person need to travel with 10s of cars, an ambulance, sometimes a firetruck also in tow ? Both the CM & the Governor who doesn’t miss a chance to criticize the CM/Govt do this.

Kerala has one of the best medical facilities - then why tow around an Ambulance ? And do they expect their latest Carnival/Crysta cars to erupt in flames to have a firetruck in the convoy (not in this video, but I have seen it) ?

Incidentally, in 2016 I had seen the CM passing by on the Kollam-Kayankulam highway with just 1 escort police jeep in front. Things have changed since, for the worst.

[RM Motorsports]

Originally Posted by kutts

It needs to be seen who all will get a challan or will the damage be charged back to us the tax payers.

I guess the woman is already in trouble. All fingers pointing towards her.

According to initial reports, the escort vehicle braked abruptly to avoid hitting a woman on a scooter who was attempting a sudden right turn from the middle of the road toward Attingal.

The police have launched an investigation to locate the woman and a case has been registered, focusing on the possible traffic violations that led to the collision.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../114711162.cms

[mayankk]

Originally Posted by RM Motorsports

According to initial reports, the escort vehicle braked abruptly to avoid hitting a woman on a scooter who was attempting a sudden right turn from the middle of the road toward Attingal.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../114711162.cms

This is ego-placation by way of making a scapegoat out of the woman. Every other vehicle in the lane behind her was aware of her well signaled intention to turn.
The only "sudden" people in this ruckus were ones who were NOT in their lane, nothing to say of the speeds.