[sarathlal]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Reversing on a highway is like inviting trouble. It is the last thing that the vehicle behind will expect that you will do.

They missed the entry gate of a temple and hence was reversing. There was quite a lot of space to turn right there but not sure what made him to continue reversing and wanted to take the turn or could have atleast reversed into the shoulders.

If idiotic drivers and jaywalkers cause majority of the accidents, its often post accident reporting and recording of such cases that contribute to the system never improving.

Look at how this horrendous reporting by a major regional publisher goes;
It simply says that the lorry hit the car and quoting witness as tire burst of the lorry caused the accident! Ridiculous and blatant lying. On the sideline, it do mention that the car was reversing, but that's put in such an insignificant way;

https://www.manoramaonline.com/news/...-accident.html

[svsantosh]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Reversing on a highway is like inviting trouble. It is the last thing that the vehicle behind will expect that you will do.

You will assume top media houses will have the same thought...but see their perspective!

No wonder lorry drivers run away 1st when they hear a fart next to them.

https://www.ndtv.com/karnataka-news/...opples-7066734

The driver was reversing his Toyota Innova on the national highway in Karnataka's Kundapur. The reverse parking lights were engaged and the car was on the left corner of the road, a video showed. Suddenly, a speeding truck rammed the car, injuring ten people.

Seven people including the driver were in the car, which was heading back to Kerala after visiting the Kollur Devi Temple in Udupi. The driver put the car in reverse in front of the Kumbhashi Chandika Durgaparmeshwari Temple in Kundapur.

It moved metres when a speeding lorry carrying fish rammed the SUV and dragged it for several metres before stopping in front of a board, pushing the car into the bushes, before toppling.

[theAutomaniac]

Originally Posted by svsantosh

You will assume top media houses will have the same thought...but see their perspective!

No wonder lorry drivers run away 1st when they hear a fart next to them.

This exact horrendous way of news agencies and people blaming the bigger vehicle is why drivers of bigger vehicles always tend to run away! Not just in case of trucks, even if one crashes into a bike with a car, they'll take no time to beat/blame the car driver.

Things are horrible in this country!

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by ashkamath

Speaking out of context. As a practice, I always walk on the right side footpath with the vehicles coming in front of me. This way atleast I can take precautions and if not, atleast I will die with the full awareness of what hit me.

No you won't. You will be run down by a wrong-side biker coming from behind you!

When I am being a walker on the road, I keep this danger in mind. Looking ahead, I may think I'm safe to take a step to my left, but the biker coming from behind will not be allowing for a pedestrian to do that. And they will pass close even if they have the whole road!

Originally Posted by sarathlal

its often post accident reporting and recording of such cases that contribute to the system never improving.

I am always sorry to hear of deaths on the road, but every time I read of two-wheelers in accidents, they have always been rammed by the other vehicle. And I wonder how the two-wheeler came to be in front of the vehicle that allegedly rammed it.

[sumathindra]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Reversing on a highway is like inviting trouble. It is the last thing that the vehicle behind will expect that you will do.

Clearly the Innova drivers fault . Even if he wanted too reverse, there was ample space on his left, he could have left the road and stuck to the left. In the first place in our country the concept of entries and exits on highways with proper signages do not exist at all. Unfortunate tragedy. Hope all will recover and be ok.

Originally Posted by ashkamath

Speaking out of context. As a practice, I always walk on the right side footpath with the vehicles coming in front of me. This way at least I can take precautions and if not, at least I will die with the full awareness of what hit me.

Another big issues these days are pedestrians are not focused on the roads and the vehicles around them. They are all stuck to their phones and clearly is a recipe for disaster. If they are alert they can act in the nick of time.

[sarathlal]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I am always sorry to hear of deaths on the road, but every time I read of two-wheelers in accidents, they have always been rammed by the other vehicle. And I wonder how the two-wheeler came to be in front of the vehicle that allegedly rammed it.

I am sorry, but I think this was misinterpreted. I was referring to the accident involving the reversing Innova and its subsequent illogical reporting by news channels.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by sumathindra

Clearly the Innova drivers fault

I think there is a 'yes, but' here.

The Innova driver should not have been doing what he was doing. All over the world accidents are caused by people missing turnings off highways/motorways, and the official answer will be don't do it! So drive those extra km to the next exit! But he did do it. He could have pulled in to the side of the road. There was plenty of space to the left. If he had to do it, there were ways to make it safe[r].

All that is true. But this is true too: the truck driver ploughed into him. He failed to see it, or failed to understand that the Innova was not moving forward at same speed. It is most likely that, even if the Innova had been moving forwards, the truck would still have hit it. That is a very big yes but.

[balenoed_]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

All that is true. But this is true too: the truck driver ploughed into him. He failed to see it, or failed to understand that the Innova was not moving forward at same speed. It is most likely that, even if the Innova had been moving forwards, the truck would still have hit it.

Slightly disagree and no sir. Yes the truck ploughed into him, but what happened must be that the truck must have seen the Innova and must be thinking it stalled or move aside or worst case will hold the reversing when seeing the truck and he must have planned for a last minute switching to the right lane to avoid that. But his calculations went for a toss due to the reversing movement of Innova which ate up his space gradually. It might sound trivial, but a reversing vehicle, however slow it must be doing it, can cause grave confusion.

Would have hit even if Innova was going forward? Oh, that’s very unlikely unless he was predetermined that he wants to plough someone.

[CARDEEP]

To be honest, it was more of Innova driver's error than truck driver's IMO. For the road (so called highway) is not that wide for safe & speedy overtake by a big vehicle to another, second the Innova driver could have driven on the tiled path (driveway of some big establishment/ building) & lastly he could have safely driven few kms extra in flow of traffic than against it.

I was in similar situation this morning when dropping off relative to T3 (IGAI) & missed one turn, which resulted in me going around 15 minutes of detour towards Gurugram. But I preferred that one for sake of safety of self, my family and my asset. Yet managed to reach the terminal as I had started with much time to spare.

[chaitanyakrish]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Would have hit even if Innova was going forward? Oh, that’s very unlikely unless he was predetermined that he wants to plough someone.

The Innova took more than 30 seconds and its very silly to do that on a traffic lane with flowing traffic.
Had he realized the risk much earlier, he would've moved left and used the available space.
He has no risk perception at all and confused the truck driver who couldn't change lanes and ended up crashing.
If he had used the space on the left, then it doesn't matter if the truck is speeding or not.

[binand]

Originally Posted by CARDEEP

For the road (so called highway) is not that wide for safe & speedy overtake by a big vehicle to another..

This is the location:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xP3Gp5yZfJYSjnhK7

The temple that you see on the left is what the Innova driver missed and was trying to reverse and then turn into. How much wider do we need the road to be?

Mind you, there are gaps in the median 600m ahead and 700m behind of this temple. If the Innova driver had chosen to loop around using these he'd have had to drive an extra 1.3 km, which I'm sure was such a big deal for him considering the party was on a pilgrimage tour that'd have covered something like 700 km.

[prajwalmr62]

Originally Posted by binand

The temple that you see on the left is what the Innova driver missed and was trying to reverse and then turn into. How much wider do we need the road to be?

He could have reversed directly into the temple road, there's so much shoulder and space all around! I bet the CCTV is from the temple premise too.

Instead he chose to reverse on the busy highway and put everyone's life at risk. This is just dumb and ignorance from Innova's driver, nothing else.

[Shivacharanpate]

Originally Posted by T.50s

It is a with a heavy heart I write this but my cousin sister who was of just 17 years of age has passed away due to surgical complications after getting in an accident.

I am really very sorry for your loss! My wife lost her cousin brother 5 years ago in a 2 wheeler accident.

Just for the sake of educating the team members, I want to reiterate the need to go to a hospital after head injury. There is something called as lucid interval when the patients with head injury are normal for a brief period and then they deteriorate quite rapidly and you lose precious time in treatment. An urgent CT scan is needed to understand the extent of injury and referral to a neurosurgical centre for management.

Surgical intervention can save lives if done in the right time. If there is delay in treatment, the brain swells and the neurons start to die and they do not regenerate unlike liver. And eventually leads to death due to brain herniation and brain stem death. ( I am an anaesthetist and intensivist in the UK and see a lot of head injury in my practice)

[anilsurya1985]

Sorry for the loss of your sister. And yes if she wore helmet atleast damage would have been reduced.

Instead of making it compulsory, riders should be educated why the helmet is important and how it saves lives.

I made my child to get habituated to wear helmet while dropping her to school. She happily wears the helmet.

Every parent should educate their children and instill safety from young age.

[krrisdrive]

Originally Posted by binand

This is the location:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xP3Gp5yZfJYSjnhK7

I casually scrolled through this road and found three violations within a KM band.

One can blame ignorance, arrogance, poor design, govt apathy, crowd, traffic, population but the fact is Indian roads are becoming landmines. One can never know where, when and what will hit you.

Defensive driving is the only refuge, IMHO.

Car driving in wrong side


Kid standing on road facing oncoming truck


Road block after a curve