[binand]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Here, what must have happened is that the Tavera was overtaking another car and was getting back to its lane and the driver must have over corrected and sharp steering inputs must have been given to also clear a car that was coming from opposite direction.

Based on Malayalam media reports and photographs.

1. The accident location is this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/PWK77jGXaZE3ULoa9 - the Amaron Pit Stop that you can see in Street View can also be seen in the press photos of the aftermath.

2. About 100m to the south of this point you can see a road leading to east - the Alapuzha-Changanassery Road (AC Road, locally). The Tavera emerged from this road and took a right turn as per eyewitness reports. Speculation is that they exited their college campus and instead of taking the (under construction) NH 66, they took the internal roads on the east side of the NH.

If #2 is true I think the overcorrection must have been to deal with an overly fast right-turn and not an overtaking manoeuvre.

It is established they were heading to a movie theatre. From the accident location the theatre seems to be 6 km further ahead - in Kerala terms, that is about 15-20 minutes of driving time. It is possible there was a sense of urgency in the driving considering the accident was at around 9.10 PM and the show was at 9.30 PM.

What an unbearable loss.

[chaitanyakrish]

This happened in Tiruchengode, TN and the biker paid the price for driving on the wrong side.

https://youtu.be/PSr5t-Dagew

[balenoed_]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

This happened in Tiruchengode, TN and the biker paid the price for driving on the wrong side.

I think that’s a suicide. No one on earth will do that otherwise, even by mistake.

[StarrySky]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Here, what must have happened is that the Tavera was overtaking another car and was getting back to its lane and the driver must have over corrected and sharp steering inputs must have been given to also clear a car that was coming from opposite direction.

Originally Posted by binand

If #2 is true I think the overcorrection must have been to deal with an overly fast right-turn and not an overtaking manoeuvre.

According to the driver who survived the accident, the Tavera skidded when he swerved to avoid some obstacle on the road. It doesn't look like there was anything on the road. But given that it was night time and raining, combined with possibly poor headlights and wipers, it is possible that he thought he saw something on the road.

Something similar was mentioned yesterday in the TV reports immediately after the accident. But it wasn't clear if that was based on the driver's statement or statement from witnesses.

[SR5471]

I regularly drive through that junction. There is a small road which connects the bye pass road to the highway. This road has caused my accidents and traffic blocks at this junction. If the driver was new to the area he might feel that some obstacle was present. Also that area is very dark especially during a rainy night.

This stretch of road is very notorious for many accidents. You can expect large potholes and undulations which will randomly appear,especially in rainy season.

Everything feels wrong about the accident.I hope their families find peace.

[balenoed_]

Originally Posted by binand

The Tavera emerged from this road and took a right turn as per eyewitness reports. Speculation is that they exited their college campus and instead of taking the (under construction) NH 66, they took the internal roads on the east side of the NH.

Very unlikely they came out of that road. If so, that right turn has to be very fast and even the bus driver must have been cautious. Also it can be assumed that they were coming from their college hostel down south rather come from Changanassery road.

Originally Posted by StarrySky

According to the driver who survived the accident, the Tavera skidded when he swerved to avoid some obstacle on the road. It doesn't look like there was anything on the road.

This could simply be some baseless statements to cover up the grave mistake. Why would you swerve to an oncoming mammoth KSRTC rather go over the obstacle or swerve to left instead. It looks to be just a case of skidding after completing the overtaking due to overload, wet road and bald tyres, ultimately - poor driving.

[LordSharan]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

This happened in Tiruchengode, TN and the biker paid the price for driving on the wrong side.

https://Youtu.be/PSr5t-Dagew

Looks like the biker was driving at a high speed and couldn't maintain his lane/line. He wasn't driving on the wrong side to begin with, and wet roads probably made the matters worse.

[krrisdrive]

Originally Posted by chaitanyakrish

This happened in Tiruchengode, TN and the biker paid the price for driving on the wrong side.

https://Youtu.be/PSr5t-Dagew

Perfect example of normalizing a wrong behavior. This biker has normalized wrong side driving so much that he either thought he could squeeze between bus and median or expected the bus driver will avoid him.

IMHO, from my observation in last one year, wrong side driving has crossed the point of no return (just like spitting in public).

[Street_Smart]

Originally Posted by LordSharan

Looks like the biker was driving at a high speed and couldn't maintain his lane/line. He wasn't driving on the wrong side to begin with, and wet roads probably made the matters worse.

May not be the case. Suicide theory can't be ruled out. The course change by the biker seems to be a conscious action. The angle of the bus as it grinds to a halt suggests the bus driver might have attempted to steer left to avoid the imminent crash.

[Nano45]

Originally Posted by krrisdrive

Perfect example of normalizing a wrong behavior.
IMHO, from my observation in last one year, wrong side driving has crossed the point of no return (just like spitting in public).

+1. Yesterday I was riding from Vijayawada to Hyderabad. The sun is almost out and just after crossing Kodada, three cars and one bike (all picking their kids up from school) on the wrong side suddenly switched on high beam LED lights. The guy on the shine bike who's in front of me got panicked and tried to avoid the car, but he hit the headlight and was thrown into the middle of the highway. Without delay, one car reversed and headed in the right direction while the other went in the wrong direction as if nothing had happened.

The bike rider didn't strap the helmet, so it came off upon impact and he banged his head on the ground. He informed his brother about the accident. After a minute or so, he started bleeding from his nose and felt unconscious. He was taken to the hospital in the same car and I hope he's safe now. The only good part was that there was no traffic behind us, otherwise he would have run over by random vehicle.



The most irritating part was, The intersection is 2km away and the car guy, who is in his mid-30s and well educated, with his father and two kids in the car, again proceeded in the wrong direction to the hospital without any remorse.:.


Throughout the rest of the ride, I couldn't get this out of my mind.

[deathwalkr]

An unfortunate person lost his life yesterday while crossing the road at a busy junction here.

He was on the zebra crossing line with the green light for crossing but apparently it turned red while he was crossing and one bus turned right to take a u-turn from the extreme left and another bus on the right lane proceeded forward.

The pedestrian got sandwiched in between the two and died of internal injuries :(

Just really sad.

Pedestrian crossing time is very less.

Vehicles speed the very instant the light turns green.

Two combinations that can only end in disaster...

[balenoed_]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Here, what must have happened is that the Tavera was overtaking another car and was getting back to its lane and the driver must have over corrected and sharp steering inputs must have been given to also clear a car that was coming from opposite direction. With that, and the lack of tyre grip (bald tyres can be expected on this car), heavy load, wet roads, the vehicle reacted indifferently which the driver may not have ever thought would happen. The vehicle lost its stability and suddenly swerved on to the bus.

Like mentioned in above post, the root cause of the Kerala KSRTC - Tavera accident is well explained in this video. In Malayalam language, but initial few seconds shows an animation.

http://youtu.be/IcHkWLzXtjw?si=Hm6lM9Cs9pOWUc-3

[RM Motorsports]

Tragedy struck the Mumbai-Pune Expressway on Saturday at 5 PM when a goods trailer crashed into a food mall. One person sadly lost his life after being trapped under the trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn1OpHeaYPw

[Street_Smart]

Originally Posted by RM Motorsports

Tragedy struck the Mumbai-Pune Expressway on Saturday at 5 PM when a goods trailer crashed into a food mall. One person sadly lost his life after being trapped under the trailer.

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=Gn1OpHeaYPw

How on earth such incidents can ever be prevented from happening? except for a divine intervention, probably

[krishnakumar]

Originally Posted by Street_Smart

How on earth such incidents can ever be prevented from happening? except for a divine intervention, probably

To be honest, the answer is very simple. To the point that it will never happen.

All trucks need to be thoroughly regulated and strictly enforced. It’s not that difficult to do. This is very likely a brake fail which happens when truckers coast to save fuel. Nothing that a bunch of brilliant minds can’t solve, I mean we have sent stuff into space and ensured they landed properly.

Divine intervention is not required. MVD intervention is required. Legal intervention is required. Policy intervention is required.