[McLaren Rulez]

Originally Posted by Hrishi_111

I would refrain from commenting on the kid and his parents.

I mean, what is there to say? Our father-of-the-year candidate sees his kid get run over and his first instinct is to pass the injured child to someone else and go assault the innocent driver.

A walking Durex ad, if there ever was one.

[poised2drive]

Originally Posted by Hrishi_111

Warning, disturbing visuals!

https://x.com/SakalMediaNews/status/...eo-viral-vru98

Unfortunately, the kid succumbed to injuries.

To most of the Indian drivers, it may seem that the driver of the Innova is not at fault.



But after watching the driving etiquette of other countries, I think the Innova accelerated needlessly more ( just like most of us, who were not taught to be extremely observant of pedestrians in the closed surroundings including the proximity to children's play area) and coupled with the Father/Guardian's carelessness lead to this heartbreaking situation.

I started to drive in 2013 and ever since clocked so lakhs of kilometers and I prided over myself to be a very skilled driver until I took the wheel in the U.S.A. for the first time.

The roads are full of signs and the driving was not just about controlling the car and maneuvering in the crowd and pool of vehicles, but reading the signage and sticking to a very clear code of driving conduct,

And one of the most common boards across all the neighborhoods
that always demands my total attention is



I need to unlearn and relearn so much of the driving behaviors which was quite stressful for me- like I am being watched the whole time, but I think it is the price we pay for safety.

I was warned multiple times not to speed over the limit in school zones and local roads.

Of course, when it came to the question of pedestrians, especially in those humongous parking lots with ocean of cars, I was warned to be extremely careful and always be on lookout for people during parking the car or reversing or stopping for pedestrians to cross as anything unpleasant would lead to serious consequences.

This is all obviously a lesson 101 for newbies, but its importance cannot be overstated.

Honestly, the above accident is the worst fear I have when driving in closed surroundings.

Now, I am afraid if we do not revisit and alter our driving patterns, these incidents are only going to increase as the number of cars and number of gated communities are only going to rise.

[GeeTee TSI]

Originally Posted by Hrishi_111

Warning, disturbing visuals!

https://x.com/SakalMediaNews/status/...eo-viral-vru98

Whenever I see such incidents, 'Lessons Learnt' section in my brain gets updated with things we can do to avoid it.

The reactions from bystanders stem from the severity of the consequence and not necessarily from who is at fault (and there is no getting away from the grim reality of the accident) In a court of law, I would expect the security of the parking and the adult (parent) responsible for the child to be reprimanded. The same way, the driver needs defensive driving training before getting back on the road.

In a school zone even if the car is within the prescribed speed limit, an accident does not absolve the driver of poor reaction times.

[Freespirit27]

Originally Posted by AutoIndian

Thirdly nowadays all SUVs/MUVs have huge blind spots. One must be aware of those. A very good video below about blind spots and how one must take care about this.

https://Youtu.be/NDH3FDfVQl0?si=UP5HCdzvuoXRFN-e

There seems to be something fundamentally wrong with the way this is presented or the way Americans sit in their cars. The 'line of vision' would not have been so skewed if only, the drivers were sitting slightly higher and/ or forward or maybe the front dash of these SUVs (more like mini trucks!) were better designed. If this is the best view you get, then these are really unsafe vehicles

I mean you can't expect to sit low, like a sedan in these mini trucks and hope to have a good view up front. Even a long nose low seating sedan will have some blind spot depending on the seat height. I have seen shorter people driving here in our country, who are barely seen over the wheel of the car. While seat height and reach adjustments have matured, the vision line to get a comfortable front view for which these are provided, need to be understood by the driver.

[Mr.Ogre]

Originally Posted by Hrishi_111

I would refrain from commenting on the kid and his parents.

May be not the kid, but definitely the father. The father is responsible for the safety of his kid. If he is too busy on his phone, or completely deaf and blind to the surrounding where he is with his kid, it is 100% his fault. If this was any other country there would definitely be legal consequences against the father for not only being careless but also for assaulting the driver.

Sure, it was a huge loss for the father, but what right did the father have to assault the driver for his carelessness? Just because he could lash out and get away with it in India he did.

[Joe367]

Originally Posted by Hrishi_111

Whenever I see such incidents, 'Lessons Learnt' section in my brain gets updated with things we can do to avoid it. However, in this specific case, I can't even imagine how the car driver could have avoided it. Perhaps being bit more slower and watchful knowing he is inside a gated premises?

Theres nothing much the driver could've done here apart from going bit more slower. But even then the kid ran from behind another car onto the passenger side of the car which is a blind spot for the driver. One thing that I do while parking my car at church is to expect a kid to always run into my way - this way I will pay more attention.

ADAS features, 360 cameras or just front parking sensors might be able to prevent such unfortunate incidents. I used to consider these unnecessary and a luxury in India, but seeing such incidents changed my opinion about it.

[Doge]

Originally Posted by Mustang Sammy

Another case of wrong side driving ends horribly.

Wrong side drivers need to have their licenses and vehicles taken away permanently and be jailed for a few years, regardless of whether they’ve caused a crash. That’s the only way peoples’ behavior will change.

https://x.com/roadsofmumbai/status/1887915543245853114?

Slim chance of that happening, as I've seen so many police cars and bikes riding or driving on the wrong side.

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by Joe367

ADAS features, 360 cameras or just front parking sensors might be able to prevent such unfortunate incidents. I used to consider these unnecessary and a luxury in India, but seeing such incidents changed my opinion about it.

Would an ADAS equipped car auto braked in this situation when the child jumped in the driver blind spot?

[bblost]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Would an ADAS equipped car auto braked in this situation when the child jumped in the driver blind spot?

At toll gates when some car tries to cut across from its lane into mine, I hate it.

In my old Non-ADAS car, I would move forward and the car would back off.
In my ADAS equipped Verna, the car will roll forward at very slow speed, but as soon as that car comes even a lil close, SLAM. The brakes will engage with a lot of force and stop.

Same happens when I am backing out of parking lots and some scooter or pedestrian comes close enough or in its path.

I am fairly confident, my Verna would have stopped immediately.
But I can't say with 100% surety.

[Joe367]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Would an ADAS equipped car auto braked in this situation when the child jumped in the driver blind spot?

It could've, especially since the incident occurred in a parking lot and the vehicle was moving very slow. Also to be noted that not all ADAS systems are created equal, the effectiveness may vary. This is an old video that demonstrates similar scenario where a kid runs into the street from behind another vehicle:

https://youtu.be/TJgUiZgX5rE?si=Qfczy026kQk1i1cl

[Vasuki]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Would an ADAS equipped car auto braked in this situation when the child jumped in the driver blind spot?

Also do note, that in this particular case, the child jumped in front of the vehicle at the last minute. For ADAS to work it should be able to detect the object/child from some distance.

The object size, cross section also matters.

Really sad situation, can happen to anyone.

[PreludeSH]

I saw this online couple of days ago and while it being on my mind, saw something which is very common. A child disembarks from the 2 wheeler near a park and suddenly tries to move towards the road. Its very common happening. With parents on 2 wheeler, its very difficult to hold on to their child.

[jaspal singh]

Originally Posted by Nalin1

Very very unfortunate.

Just shows how defensive you need to be inside gated communities especially when passing by parked cars. Always expect a kid or anyone to dart out from within gaps between cars. Absolute crawling speeds and ready to slam the brake any moment. This is where a hump or two can help.

And the kid's father (?) who comes running to assault and kick the driver was in another world when the kid was right next to him and the car approaching.

Yes in gated communities, mall parking lots, near schools only crawling speed ( below 15 kmph depending upon road with etc) can help. I can recall at least 8 such tragic accidents in last 3 months where a small innocent toddler lost life by being run over , in almost all cases primary mistake was of the parents who violated the most basic rule by not holding the kids hands and allowing the kid to wander. Being busy on phone was another crime they made. In 4 cases IMO driver was equally responsible.

We as car drivers must be extremely vigilant about our surroundings now specially while starting from standstill, reversing, entering a stilt parking, driving in mall parking lots with cars parked on either side and so on.

Many Indian parents these days are occupied over phone and leave their kids unattended that's why so many cases of kids getting run over, being attacked by dogs, falling from balconies, falling in borewells(in villages) are being seen these days.

Even inside malls i regularly see 3-5 year olds moving dangerously close to escalators with parents being busy shopping or over phone. Last week i went to a prominent mall in Noida and was standing near my car in the parking lot. A family came after buying grocery with 2 kids , one was around 7-8 year old and another was toddler around 3. The Mother was gossiping on phone while the father was keeping grocery bags in the boot with one hand and another on phone! During this time the toddler came right in the path meant for oncoming vehicles. I immediately rushed to alert them and then they seem to have realized their mistake. A similar situation i saw in the parking lot of prominent Murthal Dhaba last November.
Such instances are common these days. At times people are ignorant towards the dangers and at times we are just negligent. Smartphones are making people dumb and ability to focus and concentrate is going down.

What can be done to prevent such incidents at least in gated societies, malls, near schools, hospitals etc.? IMO proper speed limit signboards, at frequent intervals, warning signboards to highlight presence of kids, signs directing parents to ensure not leaving kids alone etc Also parking lots of commercial establishments must be designed to avoid blind spots. Even entry and exit gates of schools need to designed properly. Lastly Proper driver training!
With more and more EVs being sold the chances of such mishaps is more as they are completely silent .

I just hope more innocents don't loose life in such a tragic manner

[BlueGod]

Singapore as a country has very little land for use, yet there is space for proper roads with all proper markers, kids playgrounds in every neighbourhood, pathways for walking everywhere. Hefty fines are imposed when rules are not followed, both for drivers and pedestrians alike. I dont know what to say about us or our country. We are all alive and surviving by chance.

[subie_socal]

This was my sister's acquaintance. A deputy manager at a prominent mall in Trivandrum. Unfortunately lost his life on his return journey to his home after attending a business meeting elsewhere.

Looks like the person dozed off and veered to the incoming lane.

Please take necessary rest before embarking on a long journey

https://youtu.be/ywMFs5Vh8GM?feature=shared