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Raghu & Praveen, in all probabilities, the bus driver would have been let off last evening after recording his statement as this would be standard procedure for the cops. I remember someone telling me that Government bus drivers who have met with such accidents are sent for counseling (usually 1 day) and then a refresher course on driving before they are allowed to work again. This would be one such case where the driver will be going through this procedure since he is not at fault / could not have avoided this situation. Video evidence being admissible in court is something that our lawyer friends on the forum need to throw light on. aravind.anand - Yes the chap lost his life almost instantly. shubhodeep - This stretch is quite a well tarred stretch and believe it or not there are two places where either biker could have gone on to make a legal U turn. Both these places are no further than 250 meters either side of this accident spot. But no, we wont do that since our time is precious ![]() Situation has not changed this morning either. On my way to the Office, business was as usual - cars, bikes & cycles all on the wrong side, some with headlights on, some honking away to glory at the exact same spot of the accident. ![]() | |
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![]() About driving "the wrong way" on service roads, though, I think that we often have little choice. It seems that the designers of roads have used about the same amount of brain as the bikers mentioned above. Whilst the idea of a service road on either side of a road such as Chennai's OMR might be one-way, there seems to be little option, in some places, but to use it as two-way. Thus we, the drivers, have made it so, and we understand that it is so. | |
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I think that driving wrong side should be treated as criminal offence with strict/harsh penalties. If there are choices, even hard ones, then one should never drive on the wrong side. What good is saving 5 minutes (or even 1 hour for that matter) if that costs ones life? ![]() ![]() | |
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![]() Although I agree with your line of thought and would not mind going one step further given a choice, I do not see this scenario changing in the foreseeable future. Such acts can only be avoided by proper training on safety from a very young age when we start educating children about the consequences of their actions and thereby making them understand and follow these basic rules of the road. That would bring about a certain compassion in them which, I feel (entirely my opinion), is lacking with the current generation. I see very few people who have this. In fact, if one is of the select few with this compassion, he / she is mocked / jeered at and at times bullied into doing things the wrong way. I will stop my rant here. Sorry for the off topic points. ![]() | |
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The Biker, right from the start of video is in the wrong path. The bus did not appear in front of him from sky. It should be indeed visible to him at least 30 secs before the incident. Was the bus invisible to the biker ? He could have easily turned the bike to left side of the road, if he had wished to survive. Looks like, he had intentions to commit suicide OR he was deliberately playing on the bus path. I have seen many such idiots who come almost to hit your car and suddenly take right to escape the accident. slightly off topic, but similar classic biker behavior is, they overtake the car/bus from right/left and immediately come on to the car path and make us apply sudden brake. I do not have any mercy to this biker. He deserves whatever state he is in(Either alive or dead) | |
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| ![]() GK, Thad is not talking about the bus driver. He is also referring to the bikers. |
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I am not blaming the bus driver at all. The shock and disturbance to his life is one more thing that the bikers are guilty of. | ||
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Its also very reassuring to see anvara's comment that the driver will be given grief counselling, and not just sent back to work directly. | |
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| ![]() Found this video on YouTube. How come a Swift Dzire, which is being criticized as a tin can, can throw away a Creta like this? Might be it was the speed of the Dzire and height of the Creta, resulted in a topple. Last edited by Hickstead : 10th March 2017 at 20:23. |
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Totally the Creta's fault. Unfortunately the dzire is probably totaled due to the head on collision in the engine area. Indians need to stop their obsession with these ridiculous small "SUVs" with short wheelbases and high ground clearances. In the smallest of accidents, they turn turtle and roll on the side a few times. Last edited by bblost : 10th March 2017 at 23:07. Reason: Removed the embedded video inside quoted post. Thanks. |
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| ![]() Let me tell you about the laws pervading over government bus drivers.I am talking about Chennai/Tamil Nadu. 1. When Government bus involves in an accident and if it is non-fatal, they are not at fault, even if they are. 10 out 10 times they go scot free. 2. If it is fatal and if the driver is at fault, 9 out 10 times they go scot free.Why ? - Every Bus belongs to a depot. All Bus drivers belong to an Union. - So once accident happens, people from union reach the site first and make sure they destroy the evidence. Police men too collaborate with them. - Still if evidence are against them, in most cases victim's kin doesn't follow up or they are made sure not to follow up by policemen. - Even Still if follow up happens and evidence are produced, case is dragged for years, by that time drivers is already behind the steering. - In case if case proved, MTC union tries to bargain/delay/threaten the amount to be paid to the victim's kin since they don't have Insurance.So amount has to come from their coffin - If you are wondering what will happen to the driver if the case is won by victim, don't even bother thinking. He will get 6 months leave with half salary and after that he is behind the steering to kill again. ![]() These were our family experiences, When one of our relative was killed by the MTC bus for no fault of his. |
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Its plain physics, swift was at relatively high speed, carrying far more momentum than creta. Swift was like a swinging bat, while creta was a dead ball in this situation. | |
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![]() In emergency braking/steering maneuvers, these small "SUVs" will have a lower tendency to roll-over than traditional large body-on-frame SUVs. | |
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| ![]() Hope there were no fatalities. Difference of kerb weight between Dzire and Creta is approx. 200kgs more. Dzire is well built unlike Baleno (Tin Can). The Speed of the Dzire (the Driver of the Dzire realised very late to brake) and the GC of Creta are responsible for the accident. But, yes, as @mxh mentioned, no fault of Dzire, assuming that the Driver was within legally permitted speed. |
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Sorry for the loss of your relative. From what I have heard, all your points are true. Still, killing people is surely not fun, and I do continue to sympathise with bus drivers who cannot avoid bikers. Last edited by Thad E Ginathom : 11th March 2017 at 01:23. | |
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