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Old 11th January 2018, 14:23   #25456
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If it really was a Polo in that place, even the thought gave me shudders!
I might be wrong here, but hatchbacks and heavily reinforced, passengers would have survived even if it was a polo.
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Old 11th January 2018, 16:15   #25457
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Not sure if everyone saw what I saw in the Vento accident picture. The rear end has taken a brutal hit and the Vento has turned in to a Polo, almost. If you look closely the rear back rest has almost come, halfway to the front. There was no casualties because there was no rear passangers, I suppose.

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Bad parenting.

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Old 11th January 2018, 18:52   #25459
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Accident on Western Express Highway in Mumbai, aarey colony bridge towards Andheri.
When will people learn to keep safe distance between two cars, we are not Flash or Superman to have super quick reflexes.

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I am more surprised by the amount of tint on the first car of the picture!! How is the Police allowing it in Mumbai. I have no hopes for Pune on this regards. I have seen tints on the windshield as well.

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Any information, where did the car eventually stopped?? And any further damages resulting due to a driverless car running freely on the road.

Initially I skipped the VDO for few seconds & skipped the part where the younger child went into the home. Thank God for that. Not sure what else could have happened if he was around.

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Old 11th January 2018, 19:52   #25460
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Any information, where did the car eventually stopped?? And any further damages resulting due to a driverless car running freely on the road.


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Not that far, if you watch closely.

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Old 12th January 2018, 04:05   #25461
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I might be wrong here, but hatchbacks and heavily reinforced, passengers would have survived even if it was a polo.
I will base this on a comparison between Linea and my BIL's Baleno.

The Fiat Linea (Emotion) has a tough 3mm thick panel which forms part of the rear seat support and parcel tray which gels it's way to complete the boot housing the spare wheel.
The metal thickness is reduced in the boot area.

Baleno has a parcel tray which is probably cardboard or thermocol reinforced and does not seem capable to withstand any major force impact. What is left is the rear side metal panels which are water thin.

I cannot comment on VW Punto Golf or even Punto, not checked.
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Bad parenting.
And lack of common sense and taking basic precautions. The parking spot and driveway are on a direct sloping line. Owner should have provided wheel chocks and permanently insisted on them being pushed under the wheel(s) each and every time.

I used to make fun of my elderly chauffeur when I was growing up as he used to do the same on any slope. He always used to gently smile back and say that he trusted the bricks more than the handbrake or gearbox.

The family is supremely lucky that the younger child went inside just prior, the boy did not get crushed by the door + pillar or dragged under the vehicle, and no one smashed into the vehicle outside!
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Baleno has a parcel tray which is probably cardboard or thermocol reinforced and does not seem capable to withstand any major force impact. What is left is the rear side metal panels which are water thin.
I don't understand if you are saying that a parcel tray should withstand force? It would take people's heads off.
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Bad parenting.
Even if it was manned with a skilled driver, it would not have reversed so perfectly through the gates and to the road so quickly. It even steered by itself to align to the road as if it is used to it instead of going further behind. If the door was closed it was a perfect driving.
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Old 12th January 2018, 09:54   #25465
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It even steered by itself to align to the road as if it is used to it instead of going further behind. If the door was closed it was a perfect driving.
I guess the steering wheel would have been left in the same position as when the car entered. So it just returned the same way
If the door was closed, that would not be a driverless car; the kid would have stayed inside.

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The family is supremely lucky that the younger child went inside just prior, the boy did not get crushed by the door + pillar or dragged under the vehicle, and no one smashed into the vehicle outside!
And also extremely fortunate that the driver door got entangled with the pillar while the vehicle was rolling out. If that would not have happened the kid would have been hit by the closing door and probably dragged under the front wheel. Also that could have reduced the reversing speed momentarily by a wee bit allowing the kid to jump out safely.
Another point; it doesnt seem that the car was parked till the very end of the available parking space in the front. Or the slope starts immediately after the parking area. Maybe they used a smaller car earlier

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Old 12th January 2018, 09:54   #25466
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Even if it was manned with a skilled driver, it would not have reversed so perfectly through the gates and to the road so quickly. It even steered by itself to align to the road as if it is used to it instead of going further behind. If the door was closed it was a perfect driving.
Almost true, however the door had a lot of role to play in the steering bit. Probably like braking the inner wheels to force steer to the right of the car . Nevertheless, ridiculous parenting example.
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Bad parenting.
Wonder why the door was not locked?! With kids around, its strictly advised to keep the doors locked and keep the keys away from them. Some times, kids enter the car and play with the pedals which will make the brakes harder to press, this can end up in a dangerous situation as well.
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Old 12th January 2018, 10:28   #25468
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And lack of common sense and taking basic precautions. The parking spot and driveway are on a direct sloping line. Owner should have provided wheel chocks and permanently insisted on them being pushed under the wheel(s) each and every time.

I used to make fun of my elderly chauffeur when I was growing up as he used to do the same on any slope. He always used to gently smile back and say that he trusted the bricks more than the handbrake or gearbox.

The family is supremely lucky that the younger child went inside just prior, the boy did not get crushed by the door + pillar or dragged under the vehicle, and no one smashed into the vehicle outside!
True, in addition, when parking on a slope, they could have engaged the forward gear maybe? That would have prevented this roll out right?
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Old 12th January 2018, 11:13   #25469
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True, in addition, when parking on a slope, they could have engaged the forward gear maybe? That would have prevented this roll out right?
Engaging the park brake and/or gear can only help only if they remain engaged. In the video, the bigger kid obviously fiddled with the controls, causing the vehicle to roll backwards.

The only fail-safe method is to use chocks on multiple wheels, when there's a chance that the gear and park brake can be disengaged by kids.

However, a little common sense would go a long way in preventing such incidents.
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Old 12th January 2018, 12:05   #25470
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Bad parenting.
I have few questions:-

1) Can we claim insurance in these kind of accidents?(driver-less accidents)
2) If so, What will be the driver's name to put on that claim form? (not talking about owner's name)
3) Had it been a fatal case, who would have become guilty, legally? (Bad parenting I agreed, but can anyone sue him/her/them for it?).
4) Father or Mother? (or both!?), based on the facts, how far it is easy to punish him/her/them legally?
5) Will the property damage be covered under third party liability clause?

If the case is not covered, then under which clause? is it this clause will play the role? "Not taking proper care"

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