[sandeepmohan]

Originally Posted by prithm

He wants this car restored out of appreciation for saving his life.

This is stupid. If you can reach out to this person, please advice her/him not to carry out fixes on the car. While not ignoring the fact that safety is going to compromised, this car will never drive the same way as it did for the kind of repairs the garage needs to carry out.

Besides; when you are paying almost an arm and leg for comprehensive insurance, you use it for situations like this.

[mayankk]

Originally Posted by prithm

Quoted by driver to SA. He wants this car restored out of appreciation for saving his life. Inspite of SA advising him to write it off, he is still sticking to his guns.

One thing this car will definitely do again, if fixed, is make a major accident out of a minor one.
What it will not do is save him again when that accident happens.

[blackwasp]

I witnessed this sad accident on the highway yesterday. An Innova had rear ended a truck on the fast lane just a few hundred meters before the Tasawade toll plaza (Kolhapur bound side). Not visible in the video, but the car was badly hit in the front and there was damage upto the B pillar.

Cops and an ambulance was on scene and they were running around. Not sure what happened, but if I'm to speculate, looks like either the truck changed lanes at the last moment or the car was behind another slow moving vehicle in the left land and moved to the fast lane only to the sight of a slow moving truck.

https://youtu.be/UvVvThzq5-c

The truck was on the newer lot and looked to had under-run protection bar. Further, these kinds of accidents could be avoided by some common sense. Witnessed the worst kind of traffic between the Kolhapur - Pune stretch. Bikers (without mirrors and helmets), which you can't just flash lights on, they can't see, so you have to honk! Trucks sticking to the right lane, overtaking other slow moving trucks and speeding cars. I generally never exceed 90-100 km/h on the highways and keep a fair distance between the car in front. This is seen by many as an opportunity to slip in this gap. I've noticed smaller/cheaper cars which probably have limited braking capabilities going faster than me. I simply don't understand what does a guy in an Alto smoke to drive the car at speeds of 120+ km/h and swerve in and out of traffic.

A lot of people also tail gate. They expect me to magically move over and make way for them when even I'm stuck behind a slow moving vehicle.

That said, traffic on the Mumbai - Pune e-way has improved a lot. I witnessed most to stick to the middle lane, trucks were in the slow lane and the speeding chaps waiting for the cars in fast lane to move to the left. With all traffic moving at nearly 80-90 km/h there is simply no need to overspeed!

[prithm]

Originally Posted by Rohan24

The owner should really write this one off as it will be terribly unsafe to drive, with the heavily impacted chassis, etc. He can go and buy another Dzire, for the emotional value it holds for him.

Originally Posted by FORTified

One can restore it and park it in the back yard to show to their grandchildren and tell stories, at the most.

Originally Posted by mayankk

One thing this car will definitely do again, if fixed, is make a major accident out of a minor one.
What it will not do is save him again when that accident happens.

Originally Posted by sandeepmohan

Besides; when you are paying almost an arm and leg for comprehensive insurance, you use it for situations like this.

Agree with all of you but emotions differs especially in cases where it might have bordered life or death escape.

With the kind of damage that crumple zone and front part has taken, it goes without saying that its better to trash this can, but if emotions and economy are taken into due consideration, most probably he might settle for using this car for daily chore run.

These are the things I noticed after doing atleast 4 circumambulation of this car :

1. There was no damage to A pillar at all. Infact it is still intact with so sign of bend or crumple.

2. The doors were working perfectly. No jamming, structural change in shape.

3. All four wheels are intact. The front two I expected to go to shreds due to enormous full frontal impact, but they are hanging good.

4. I was not able to see any energy transfer signs such as wavy marks on the metal body, boot opening wide open, dashboard hanging off its place, steering column collapse, seat collapse. NOTHING.

Though, I am NOT all gaga for this, it does rekindle inquisitive thoughts about how did this car survive such impact. Though the speed of the vehicle is debatable, but on closer inspection it was showing impact on both sides. Impact with another vehicle on left, tree or something woody on the right.

Originally Posted by arun_josie

Spotted this near Chengalpattu, this Sunny tried to cross the road to enter a hotel and hit a Innova that was passing by. Minor injuries tothe passengers in both the cars.

Is this not the famous food joint junction near Thozhupedu ?

[Vignesh_N/A]

Originally Posted by prithm

Is this not the famous food joint junction near Thozhupedu ?

Looks like the road next to Haritam.

[VKumar]

Originally Posted by prithm

This is the latest Third Gen Dzire. Full head on impact with tree & large commercial vehicle it seems.

1) This is a clear example of a small frontal overlap with energy directed towards inner section of the hood, maybe with 2 different things one after another. How can I say that? Well, look at the picture posted below and then look at the green area and the red areas. A full frontal overlap would have thrashed that section completely which is in the red. Look at the way the intercooler is crushed and at the same time the radiator is saved. This is a clear indication that the hitting object was small enough (Like a tree etc) to have impacted a very small area.

Force distributed over a very small area always has a deeper penetration - this accident is a typical example of the same.

Triple digit speed for sure. No damage in tyres.

Next to impossible, I can bet that the net impact speed isn't even 60 kph. The owner can tell anything now, maybe he was doing 150 kph and then braked hard - last time he saw the speedo, it was at 150.

I have seen one such ill fated car which had nearly 60% front overlap at 80 kph without any brake application (Cops themselves were just behind the same car since kilometers in their Innova at the same speed), the car is lying just 3 kilometers away from my place outside the police station. Put aside the bonnet and bumper, even the A pillar and roof are also deformed on the front passenger side with everything crumpled like there was nothing ever - and it was a crash on a stationary object (Pavement on left hand side - probably the driver dozed off in midnight) that resulted in 2 casualties.

Originally Posted by smartcat

How (and why) sure? If a tree and/or large commercial vehicle are involved, even a 50 - 60 kmph impact can do this to a car of any brand.

Indeed, looking at the overlap area, even 60 kph is also more than enough to cause a damage higher than what we see in these pictures. How can I say that? Just look at the small frontal overlap results of even the premium cars. It's hardly 33% of the frontal area coverage, enough to tear apart even a Mercedes E Class if a hit is taken at three digit speeds.

Look at the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ja3UCuvNLc

Now see the similarity between the radiator of the DZire and that of the Merc, it's a fact that the DZire guy was indeed lucky that the collision energy acted diagonally towards the inner side crushing the intercooler and not the outer side towards the A pillar, else maybe he wouldn't have been alive to tell his story.

Originally Posted by prithm

Quoted by driver to SA. He wants this car restored out of appreciation for saving his life. In spite of SA advising him to write it off, he is still sticking to his guns.

Good decision

Originally Posted by smartcat

unless he saw the speedometer a micro-second before impact.

Man, put aside everything and tell me where you get that sense of humor from. I just love reading your posts (In every thread and on any topic) and they are always fun
100% agreeable statement!

[Kishen.padiyar]

Originally Posted by prithm

This is the latest Third Gen Dzire. Full head on impact with tree & large commercial vehicle it seems. Details still patchy, but occupants walked out with minor injury. Both Airbags deployed. Front crumple zone done with. Triple digit speed for sure.

I think the owner has got a limited edition III gen Dzire with insanely high build quality and not a regular TECT one to be in such good shape despite hitting a tree and a CV at triple digit speeds.

@VKumar has nicely summarized it with scientific reasoning.

For reference, see what happened to another Dzire at city speeds for having a collision with a humble auto.

PC: Rushlane.com

[prithm]

Originally Posted by Vignesh_N/A

Looks like the road next to Haritam.

Exactly. Good open space for great all around visibility. Not sure how this might happened in that spot.

Originally Posted by VKumar

This is a clear indication that the hitting object was small enough (Like a tree etc) to have impacted a very small area.

Force distributed over a very small area always has a deeper penetration - this accident is a typical example of the same.

In that case, that area of imact should be V shaped right !! In this case, the front end of chassis is rolled up inside, literally lifting the Intercooler and Radiator from downfront to up and above. Almost like someone rolling chapathi dough albeit with the cabin intact.

Originally Posted by Kishen.padiyar

For reference, see what happened to another Dzire at city speeds for having a collision with a humble auto.

PC: Rushlane.com

. Looks like the right front wheel is ripped off, as if driver dumped the car into a open manhole than a brush with auto.

[TorqueyTechie]

Today it was raining on my way back home and I saw couple of two wheelers slipping and falling down.

Fall 1 :

https://youtu.be/4SwR463KEtQ

Fall 2:

https://youtu.be/m51N7TnIMyw

Excuse the audio. Ride safe folks.

[mayanksabharwal]

Toyota Fortuner driver misjudges while overtaking and presses accelerator instead of brakes. Ends up crashing inside a hotel. 1 dead, 3 injured.

Fortuner front is completely smashed. Why did no airbags deploy here? Very strange.

Can anybody help explain what could be the reason?

Source

[Tanveer02]

Originally Posted by mayanksabharwal

Toyota Fortuner driver misjudges while overtaking and presses accelerator instead of brakes. Ends up crashing inside a hotel. 1 dead, 3 injured.

Fortuner front is completely smashed. Why did no airbags deploy here? Very strange.

Can anybody help explain what could be the reason?

Source

I may be wrong but as far as my knowledge is concerned, the occupant/occupants of the Fortuner weren't wearing seat belts leading to the airbags not deploying.

There are sensors that connect the airbag with the seat belts. When someone sits in a car, the manufacturer expects them to wear seat belts, thus activating the seat belt and airbag sensor. If no seat belts are fastened, then no airbag will be deployed.

Moreover, there are also weight sensors in some cars, which activate when someone sits on the seat. In such cars airbags will work without even fastening of seat belts.

EDIT

Link to the post clarifying some doubts

[500ContyCruiser]

Just an another day at Hubli - Dharwad bypass. Luckily escaped it!

Looks like some VIP moment and one of the car's seems to be of police. So much for escorting VIP. And the parked car without any indications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K11gkib_Rvc

[arun_josie]

Originally Posted by prithm

Is this not the famous food joint junction near Thozhupedu ?

Originally Posted by Vignesh_N/A

Looks like the road next to Haritam.

Yes, this is opposite to Haritam/few other food joints.

Originally Posted by prithm

Exactly. Good open space for great all around visibility. Not sure how this might happened in that spot.

Yes, no visibility issues here. All he had to do was, wait for other vehicles to pass and then cross, but he flopped

[Udit]

Yesterday I was on my way back to Dehradun from a village near New Tehri. It started raining with thunderstorm. There were very few vehicles on the road and it was dark outside. After taking a turn near Eco-Park Dhanaulti, all of a sudden I saw a tree fallen on the road along with some electricity lines hanging with it. I slammed brakes and my Alto came to halt with a small skid on the wet road. Immediately I reversed the car to make a safe distance from the hanging live electricity wires. Informed local people about it and also to the vehicles coming in that direction.

https://youtu.be/bussa7CEHfc

The place was scary as there were tall trees all around and I was told that road will not be open before the next morning.

https://youtu.be/cG5NcE1D5mM

So, I took a detour which was going to take extra 100 kms and another 5-6 hours. The route was even worse, with some very risky patches.

https://youtu.be/Mi1jsQvHvxY

Finally reached Dehradun in the midnight.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by Udit

The route was even worse, with some very risky patches.

They call that a road?