[Vik0728]

Originally Posted by condor

Brezza and Swift : happened on SH-50 east of Bijapur, KA today morning.

Pics by my cousin.

Thank you condor for sharing the pics here. Good to know that there were no fatalities.

I am still wondering how the 2 "Tin-Suzukis" ended up like that!!

I see a vast field, and a ditch. Obviously, the pictures are taken from the road, which is where your cousin in standing. irrespective of the momentum, the cars should have toppled into the ditch, which is probably how the Brezza got there. How did that Swift get across the ditch??

Any more details on this?

Originally Posted by bhpfaninblr

Looks like the Brezza rear-ended the Swift and then toppled.
Given that both vehicles went off the road and one of them toppled, my suspicion is that the Brezza was doing insane speeds

Guess you just looked at the pictures and posted your comment!!
Honestly dude, you didn't have to try that hard to suspect and investigate.

You have quite literally Pasted the details of the mishap that condor has Posted above!!

[bhpfaninblr]

Originally Posted by Vik0728

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Honestly dude, you didn't have to try that hard to suspect and investigate.

You have quite literally Pasted the details of the mishap that condor has Posted above!!

Thanks Dude! When I replied, the original poster had not provided details of mishap. That post was edited later after I posted and therefore, my original quoted post was changed to a new post by the admin

In any case, this mishap is one more reason to be cautious while driving on the highway. The Brezza seems totally at fault rear ending the Swift. There is no forgiveness for rear ending another vehicle even if it is stationary. Driver must be able to judge the distance

[k88k]

Originally Posted by bhpfaninblr

The Brezza seems totally at fault rear ending the Swift. There is no forgiveness for rear ending another vehicle even if it is stationary. Driver must be able to judge the distance

Without knowing the circumstances how can it be concluded that Brezza seemed to be at fault?

What if the Swift had hard-braked (animals?), leaving very little reaction time for the vehicle behind it?

We end up concluding without facts / evidences!

[bhpfaninblr]

Originally Posted by k88k

What if the Swift had hard-braked (animals?), leaving very little reaction time for the vehicle behind it?

Even in that case, the Brezza should have kept sufficient distance from the Swift that is equal to his braking distance. There is no excuse for hitting a vehicle in front of you unless that person reversed his vehicle! In this case, it is highly improbable that the Swift was reversing

[GeneralJazz]

Originally Posted by k88k

Without knowing the circumstances how can it be concluded that Brezza seemed to be at fault?

What if the Swift had hard-braked (animals?), leaving very little reaction time for the vehicle behind it?

We end up concluding without facts / evidences!

Originally Posted by bhpfaninblr

Even in that case, the Brezza should have kept sufficient distance from the Swift that is equal to his braking distance. There is no excuse for hitting a vehicle in front of you unless that person reversed his vehicle! In this case, it is highly improbable that the Swift was reversing

Again you are jumping to conclusions. What if the Swift overtook the Brezza, tried to squeeze in and hard braked? Without any CCTV evidence, we can only assume.

We can argue for a couple of pages about all the what ifs. Or we can move on. I've made my decision.

[the_skyliner]

Originally Posted by k88k

Without knowing the circumstances how can it be concluded that Brezza seemed to be at fault?

What if the Swift had hard-braked (animals?), leaving very little reaction time for the vehicle behind it?

We end up concluding without facts / evidences!

It is always the tailing car's mistake in case of rear ending accidents. One should keep safe distance as well as use anticipation to avoid rear ending the car in front.

[locusjag]

Originally Posted by k88k

Without knowing the circumstances how can it be concluded that Brezza seemed to be at fault?

What if the Swift had hard-braked (animals?), leaving very little reaction time for the vehicle behind it?

We end up concluding without facts / evidences!

Originally Posted by GeneralJazz

Again you are jumping to conclusions. What if the Swift overtook the Brezza, tried to squeeze in and hard braked? Without any CCTV evidence, we can only assume.

We can argue for a couple of pages about all the what ifs. Or we can move on. I've made my decision.

We had discussed this very topic a couple of pages ago on this thread - 95% of the time, the vehicle that rear-ends the other vehicle is automatically ruled at fault by the law, in lawful countries. (In India, if the vehicle that rear-ends is smaller, the bigger vehicle at the front is blamed and that driver will get embezzled, thrashed or lynched....hold on, i'm going OT here!)

Anyways, to get an idea of the minuscule 5% of circumstances where the vehicle at front can be blamed for a rear-ending, please read here - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/road-s...ml#post4448264

To sum up, it shouldn't matter if the vehicle ahead squeezed in and braked, if they braked suddenly after maintaining a speed or if they've stopped - the driver behind has the primary duty of maintaining braking-length distances. The driver of the vehicle that brakes or stops does indeed have certain duties to keep everyone safe, but those are secondary.

[ROG_AK]

Came across this on a drive through Sandanapalli. Happened right at a corner. Looks like the driver could not slow down in time or did not anticipate the corner correctly.

[speedmiester]

Originally Posted by ROG_AK

Came across this on a drive through Sandanapalli. Happened right at a corner. Looks like the driver could not slow down in time or did not anticipate the corner correctly.

That's a nasty accident.
The roof of the bolero has collapsed like a cardboard box.
It always had poor brakes and the safety was always iffy with Bolero.
As the best selling UV in the country, there are serious safety concerns.

[locusjag]

Originally Posted by speedmiester

That's a nasty accident.
The roof of the bolero has collapsed like a cardboard box.
It always had poor brakes and the safety was always iffy with Bolero.
As the best selling UV in the country, there are serious safety concerns.

I am quite un-knowledgeable about the safety aspects of cars when it comes to the pillars supporting the roof. Is it reasonable to expect the pillars to hold, so that the roof doesn't cave in when a car rolls over? What are the safety norms by and large with respect to the pillars?

[GeneralJazz]

Originally Posted by locusjag

I am quite un-knowledgeable about the safety aspects of cars when it comes to the pillars supporting the roof. Is it reasonable to expect the pillars to hold, so that the roof doesn't cave in when a car rolls over? What are the safety norms by and large with respect to the pillars?

You are right. The roof has to be strong for passenger safety. Check this document:

https://www.citizen.org/sites/defaul...rush_final.pdf

The roof must be strong enough to resist with a force of 1.5 times the vehicle’s weight before crushing more than 5 inches. The 1.5 times figure is called the Strength-to-Weight Ratio, or SWR.

The strength added by the windshield and its bonding is gone when both break after the first impact, substantially weakening the roof.

A strong roof also prevents the windows from breaking, keeping occupants in the vehicle.

Hope these parameters will be tested in our up-coming crash safety norms.

[mazda4life]

Just came across this sad accident claiming the life of veteran actor Harikrishna https://indianexpress.com/article/in...pital-5330105/

[Ithaca]

NTR's son Harikrishna passes away in road accident

Harikrishna sustained critical head injuries when the car in which he was travelling along with two other overturned while overtaking another vehicle near Anneparthi
The vehicle hit the divider and collided with another vehicle coming from the opposite direction.

Link







Not posting the gory images for obvious reasons.
Some idiotic TV channels are showing the accident site without morphing the images of the injured people.
Really insensitive to the families of the people affected.

[strawhat]

Apparently the Fortuner in which Harikrishna was traveling was over speeding when the driver lost control and jumped the median. He wasn't wearing seatbelt, which explains why his body is some distance away.

The NTR family had already lost a son in an accident previously. Also Telugu actor Jr. NTR (Harikrishna's son) was involved in a near-fatal accident some years ago.

[zaveed]

Originally Posted by Ithaca

NTR's son Harikrishna passes away in road accident
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Might be seat belt could have saved life. As per one of the witness on the scene, he was not wearing seat belt and was controlling the steering with one hand and drinking water with the other.