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Old 26th October 2018, 02:02   #27376
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My father met with an accident

My father saw the truck when he was cruising at 110 KMPH (10 kmph above the speed limit)

He did not brake, there were 2 more cars on his tail, he instead accelerated and tried to escape before the truck entirely blocked the fast lane. He started honking as soon as he saw the truck, he crossed the truck 20 KMPH over his cruising speed.
Firstly, I'm glad that your father and his colleagues are safe. Vehicles are just tools, and sometimes they need to take damage to keep us safe - glad to see that the S-Cross did this, and remained stable.

Impacts on the rear quarter can easily spin out a car (even intentionally), so good to know nothing untoward happened.

Your mention about the speeds are also very good, because it highlights two very important points:
  1. Sometimes the safer avoidance manoeuvre is to accelerate away from danger, instead of braking to avoid it (and the driver must have the ability to judge which is the appropriate one to perform)
  2. To allow the above to happen, we must always drive our vehicles with some power in reserve

The second point is something I see violated quite often, when a small-capacity engine car (e.g. Nano, Alto) blasts past me on the highway going noticeably faster.

A huge shame the truck wasn't caught.

Once again, very glad that the people involved are safe, and the car came out with (relatively) minor damage.

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Old 26th October 2018, 06:01   #27377
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My father met with an accident on Yamuna Expressway around 9:00 PM.
Glad to know that he is safe.


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Yes, on a Expressway a truck driver was reversing his truck .... he was shocked to see the truck at a 90 deg angle.
I find this routinely happening on many highways, especially with these huge longer trucks. Once they decide to take a U turn or something similar, they end up blocking all lanes. It's a very risky situation to be in.

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He did not brake, there were 2 more cars on his tail, he instead accelerated and tried to escape before the truck entirely blocked the fast lane.
Wow. I'm in awe of his presence of mind. Most common reaction is to brake hard. He handled this tricky situation wonderfully.

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Screen shot from the tracking device where the accident took place.
Which device is this, make and cost?
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Old 26th October 2018, 08:57   #27378
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My father met with an accident on Yamuna Expressway around 9:00 PM.....

.....He did not brake, there were 2 more cars on his tail, he instead accelerated and tried to escape before the truck entirely blocked the fast lane.
Presence of mind (and I'm sure borne out of driving experience) on your father's part avoided what could've been a much nastier accident given the speeds involved and multi-car pile-up that could've resulted from an emergency braking maneuver.
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My father met with an accident on Yamuna Expressway around 9:00 PM. ...
  • Fortunately no human suffered any injury
  • Get a dashcam
  • Is that tracking device given by the insurance company or NEXA or some aftermarket device?
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  • Fortunately no human suffered any injury
  • Get a dashcam
  • Is that tracking device given by the insurance company or NEXA or some aftermarket device?
Exactly!

Had you had a dashcam, the story would have been a lot different.
You would have had all the proofs to book the trucker, instead of trying to chase him.

You would also have shared an amazing video here to teach us one more lesson on what could go wrong on an express high way.

Go for it. Its worth its weight in gold.
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Had you had a dashcam, the story would have been a lot different.
You would have had all the proofs to book the trucker, instead of trying to chase him.

You would also have shared an amazing video here to teach us one more lesson on what could go wrong on an express high way.

Go for it. Its worth its weight in gold.
Just this morning, i realized I had left my dashcam in my table drawer at home. So I went in to retrieve it before driving to office. I won't budge my car without it. So you're preaching to the choir here, about the importance of dashcams.

But let's keep in mind the fact that at night, at high speeds, a truck that's at 90 degrees to the PoV of the dashcam may well be unidentifiable.
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So you're preaching to the choir here, about the importance of dashcams.
Looks like it needs more preaching, as not everybody realized it yet.

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But let's keep in mind the fact that at night, at high speeds, a truck that's at 90 degrees to the PoV of the dashcam may well be unidentifiable.
Eventually, the car passed the truck from the front and these dashcams will have wide angle. Good chances of catching the number.

As a rule, trucks are supposed to write their numbers on the sides too. So, high chances of catching it.

At least, you stand a chance to catch the bizarre event happening on the highway, in case you need to prove your innocense.

Chances and chances only.
But, without the equipment, you stand no chance. Don't you agree?
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This design seems to be a jugaad in itself and is hardly present outside of India.
If you are thinking Western countries, yes. But similar sleeper coaches are very common across Asia in almost every countries. China, Taiwan, Thailand etc. have had similar sleeper coaches for like couple of decades.
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Which device is this, make and cost?
Matchpoint GPS. Purchased as an accessory from HDFC just after taking delivery of my car. I took loan from HDFC and their rep sold it to me (Insurance was taken from a different company). Features include inginiton on/off alerts, boundary alerts, speed alerts, idling alerts and lots of statistics - kms driven, route replay, avg speeds etc.

Device cost is 18k which includes 5 yrs replacement warranty.


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  • Fortunately no human suffered any injury
  • Get a dashcam
  • Is that tracking device given by the insurance company or NEXA or some aftermarket device?
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Had you had a dashcam
Guess what? I have a Viofo A119S v2 which I use it on my long drives. I have not hardwired it. I think I will do it now.

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From Motown India.

How we as motorist should behave when we see an accident on the road.

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From Motown India.

How we as motorist should behave when we see an accident on the road.
That's an interesting clip.

First and foremost I guess how to handle an accident where you are involved and where you are not involved needs to be part of the driving license test / training, as should be training in basic first aid.

Now that simulation and computerized tests are replacing the older, manual and ineffective method of training the would-be drivers, maybe one day this too might come true.

Till the time we are mature enough in terms of driver training, social awareness, infrastructure etc to allow emwrgency vehicles to reach an accident spot and take the victims to an appropriate medical care centre, I think it may save more lives if any passers by could help the victims before medical help arrived.
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That's an interesting clip.

First and foremost I guess how to handle an accident where you are involved and where you are not involved needs to be part of the driving license test / training, as should be training in basic first aid.
I see it the other way around.
Its in our culture.

Can you coolly walk past a person lying on the road ? Will you consider that you did everything that you could, if you just called the ambulance?

If someone slips and falls, do you think twice before reaching out to lend a helping hand?
I had seen many clips from Europe and US where if somebody falls, people just walk around him, but rarely help him to get back on his feet.
In India, you will always get help [more than you ask for ]

I once initiated a mob, in Rajasthan, into lifting a toppled van to get he driver out from under it. Waiting for ambulance wouldn't have helped. I could do it because I stopped on the high way and ran down a 20 feet steep embankment.

Its just that we don't know where to draw the line!
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@Fortified, yes, that's part of our culture. But then not everyone may stop and help, out of apathy or reasons of personal safety.

Anyways this is slightly off the main topic so I shall just conclude my post by saying having some formal training in such areas whils obtaining a driver's license will go a long way.
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I see it the other way around.
Its in our culture.

Can you coolly walk past a person lying on the road ? Will you consider that you did everything that you could, if you just called the ambulance?

If someone slips and falls, do you think twice before reaching out to lend a helping hand?
I had seen many clips from Europe and US where if somebody falls, people just walk around him, but rarely help him to get back on his feet.
In India, you will always get help [more than you ask for ]

I once initiated a mob, in Rajasthan, into lifting a toppled van to get he driver out from under it. Waiting for ambulance wouldn't have helped. I could do it because I stopped on the high way and ran down a 20 feet steep embankment.

Its just that we don't know where to draw the line!
True that! We really do not. We are such an emotion driven lot. I would suggest that the ones who are most likely to stop and help an accident victim do a First Responder Course. St. Johns Ambulance First Aid conducts this course. At least In Goa my Rotary Club has sponsored a few of these courses in Colleges.
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From Motown India.

How we as motorist should behave when we see an accident on the road.

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I see it the other way around.
Its in our culture.

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In India, you will always get help [more than you ask for ]

I once initiated a mob, in Rajasthan, into lifting a toppled van to get he driver out from under it. Waiting for ambulance wouldn't have helped. I could do it because I stopped on the high way and ran down a 20 feet steep embankment.

Its just that we don't know where to draw the line!
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... I would suggest that the ones who are most likely to stop and help an accident victim do a First Responder Course. St. Johns Ambulance First Aid conducts this course. ...
In Europe, its a criminal offence and one can lose his licence for not stopping and helping the victims! The first step towards acquiring a licence is a first aid course and its importance is reiterated several times over and over again. If one is trained in first-aid, he/she should do the best. The rest when they notice that some already attending to the victims should move on and not crowd around with their smartphones out filming.

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