[ani_meher]

Saw this news showing an accident that claimed lives of two persons and injured 3 in Chandrapur Jilha. News in in Marathi.

https://www.loksatta.com/maharashtra...ed-in-1819866/

The car Brezza looks horribly mangled. Does this say anything good or bad about car's ability to take frontal damage? Asking this in a genuine way.

[paragsachania]

Originally Posted by ani_meher

The car Brezza looks horribly mangled. Does this say anything good or bad about car's ability to take frontal damage? Asking this in a genuine way.

With Trees, no car can win. This is evident from a lot of accident pictures we have seen. At times the car wraps around the tree when it collides sideways. You can even expect a wall to break but a Tree like this would stand still.

On Brezza, it did score a decent 4 Star Rating in crash test.

[locusjag]

Originally Posted by ani_meher

Saw this news showing an accident that claimed lives of two persons and injured 3 in Chandrapur Jilha. News in in Marathi.

The car Brezza looks horribly mangled. Does this say anything good or bad about car's ability to take frontal damage? Asking this in a genuine way.

There's also this similar incident where a bicycle and a Corrolla met head-on in China (https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/road-...ml#post4522091 (International Road Accidents)). The analysis on various websites with why the Corrolla's front bumper caved in when it met a bicycle said that it's all due to the pedestrian friendly norms that have crept in these days. So a modern car is supposed to deform itself and dissipate the energy away from any pedestrian and also away from the cage containing passengers. At least that's what they're saying. I honestly don't know!

[ajmat]

Originally Posted by ani_meher

Saw this news showing an accident that claimed lives of two persons and injured 3 in Chandrapur Jilha. News in in Marathi.

https://www.loksatta.com/maharashtra...ed-in-1819866/

The car Brezza looks horribly mangled. Does this say anything good or bad about car's ability to take frontal damage? Asking this in a genuine way.

Trees are formidable objects, we think they fall easily due to chopping but no, the roots do their job.

Best not to comment as so many other factors like speed need to be taken into account

[hserus]

Originally Posted by ts1506

I am not sure what happened later. Some of my colleagues had taken the 2 guys to the hospital. There was no police on the scene till then.

Most hospitals will refuse to admit accident victims who are drunk - the procedure is to take them to a designated government hospital for a checkup. The paperwork for it will be sent to the police as well in such a case.

If no cops are around the hospital may well log the treatment as slipped and fell down at home.

[airbus]

Originally Posted by hserus

Most hospitals will refuse to admit accident victims who are drunk - the procedure is to take them to a designated government hospital for a checkup. The paperwork for it will be sent to the police as well in such a case.

Years back when my office cab met with an accident and I had minor injury. Manipal Hospital logged a medico-legal case and I got a call from traffic police next day.

[motorpsycho]

Originally Posted by ajmat

Trees are formidable objects,

Best not to comment as so many other factors like speed need to be taken into account

Agree, my cab ran into a milestone at very low speed, around 10 Km/Hr, the amount of damage to the car at such low speed was astonishing. The right wheel and suspension was bent. I was wearing a seatbelt, else my face would have been plastered onto the dashboard.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by honeybee

It seems the whole car acted as a big crumple zone, either by design or by chance.

I try to remember that all our cars are, ultimately, big crumple zones. I try to remember that a lot of the confidence I get from this tin box is illusory. Because it is.

Of course, I try to get the safest tin box. But it can easily come up against its limits, in, for instance, the form of a simple tree...

Originally Posted by ani_meher

Saw this news showing an accident that claimed lives of two persons and injured 3 in Chandrapur Jilha.
... ... ... Does this say anything good or bad about car's ability to take frontal damage?

A lamp post can do a lot of damage too. I think that another advantage trees have in tree v. car is that they have some give. It helps them survive wind.

[binand]

Originally Posted by hserus

Most hospitals will refuse to admit accident victims who are drunk - the procedure is to take them to a designated government hospital for a checkup.

This is no longer the case, ever since the Good Samaritan law was passed in Karnataka (and pan-India, by way of a MoRTH notification). Any doctor who refuses treatment to an accident victim is guilty of professional misconduct. There is no "drunk victim" exclusion in the law.

[venkyhere]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I try to remember that all our cars are, ultimately, big crumple zones. I try to remember that a lot of the confidence I get from this tin box is illusory. Because it is.

Of course, I try to get the safest tin box. But it can easily come up against its limits, in, for instance, the form of a simple tree...
A lamp post can do a lot of damage too. I think that another advantage trees have in tree v. car is that they have some give. It helps them survive wind.

Shared a pic of how the way the roots of the tree spread radially outwards is the key.
We can observe the same thing when giant "light pillars" with 8 or 10 lights lighting up 360 degrees in major junctions in cities. Their base has lots of steel rods running radially outwards, just like roots of a tree. Inorder to mimic the weight of mud over roots, the construction people pile on a huge amount of concrete/cement over a large circular area around the base of the such towers.

[fiat_tarun]

Originally Posted by ani_meher

....
The car Brezza looks horribly mangled. Does this say anything good or bad about car's ability to take frontal damage? Asking this in a genuine way.

I would say the car has taken the crash quite well since the cabin, including the A pillars are intact. If the occupants were belted they should have survived this.

[shubhodeepdas@g]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I try to remember that all our cars are, ultimately, big crumple zones.

The amount of car that turns into a crumple zone is directly proportional to the speed at which this process is initiated divided by a constant that is the NCAP rating of the car.

[IshaanIan]

Originally Posted by ani_meher

Does this say anything good or bad about car's ability to take frontal damage? Asking this in a genuine way.

You might start a big debate if you ask questions like this fact is we cannot say as we don't have all the required data. That said, I honestly do not feel like any of the new Marutis apart from the S-Cross, are built well enough to even discuss how safe they might be.

[virgopal]

Serial Accident On Mysuru-Bengaluru Highway
*Five cars including escort vehicle of former CM Siddharamaiah damaged
*District Armed Reserve Sub-Inspector dies of heart attack
Read on:
https://starofmysore.com/serial-acci...aluru-highway/
As per this news, the Pilot vehicle was driving on left lane and avoided hitting a parked lorry there by swerving to right lane. So, I guess Pilot vehicle seems to be the root cause for the serial accident, IMO

[BenjiRoss]

Originally Posted by virgopal

Serial Accident On Mysuru-Bengaluru Highway
*Five cars including escort vehicle of former CM Siddharamaiah damaged
*District Armed Reserve Sub-Inspector dies of heart attack
Read on:
https://starofmysore.com/serial-acci...aluru-highway/
As per this news, the Pilot vehicle was driving on left lane and avoided hitting a parked lorry there by swerving to right lane. So, I guess Pilot vehicle seems to be the route cause for the serial accident, IMO

As per the news article the pilot vehicle changed lanes and avoided hitting the parked vehicle. The escort vehicle behind the CM could not switch lanes in time and rammed into the parked truck which caused a domino effect behind this car.
1. Truck should not have parked in this lane
2. Safe distance was probably not maintained between vehicles which is very common in this road.
Unfortunately the death was not a direct consequence of the accident